Rehab Assignment

Dyzalot · 09-07-2015, 10:18 PM

Is there a process by which I can move someone from a minor league rehab assignment to the AAA roster? This is a player with options left and the popup you get when the rehab assignment runs out of time is that you must place him on the active roster or designate him for assignment. However, when I try to "DFA" him I am told he has to be waived because he is on the "40 man" roster. I don't want to remove him from that roster. I just want to demote him to the minors. Am I missing how to do this?

craftdr · 09-07-2015, 10:31 PM

I'm not saying this I the best way but it's the only way I've gotten it to work... I demote a player from my ML roster to AAA then promote the rehab player and then immediately demote him to AAA. Then I've found that if you move your ML player back to the ML roster you will not use an option. I guess it's because you haven't moved forward a day. Like I say, it may not be the best or only way but I've had success doing it this way.

Dyzalot · 09-07-2015, 11:30 PM

Ok. That's how I've been doing it but didn't realize it didn't cost me an option. I guess that works. Still feel like you should just be able to "DFA" him and then move him to the minors.

monkeystyxx · 09-08-2015, 07:19 AM

Why'd you send him on a rehab assignment if you were going to demote him anyway?

Friendly_Beaver · 09-08-2015, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeystyxx

Why'd you send him on a rehab assignment if you were going to demote him anyway?

Maybe his rehab assignment didn't go so well and he's now decided to demote him? Just a guess.

Dyzalot · 09-08-2015, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeystyxx

Why'd you send him on a rehab assignment if you were going to demote him anyway?

I made a couple of trades while he was on assignment which made his services not needed at the MLB level.

Curve Ball Dave · 09-09-2015, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeystyxx

Why'd you send him on a rehab assignment if you were going to demote him anyway?

I've parked guys in rehab assignments who were on the bubble in terms of staying on the MLB roster in the first place. There's cases where I wanted to keep the replacement I called up from AAA instead of the guy on the rehab assignment and had to go through the gymnastics outlined above (something they really should fix) to send him to AAA permanently or at least until I want to call him up again.

ich2232 · 09-26-2015, 12:59 PM

Pretty sure this is a CBA issue and not OOTP bugs or whatever. IRL organizations can't just move guys around on a whim (even though they do in the Minors). I'm no lawyer but I'm pretty sure there are rules against doing that kind of thing. Like if you were the player and you got hurt and they just dumped you to Triple A after that...it's not very fair to the Player.

I think has something to do with the guys on the 40-Man. I played College Ball and have a few friends in the Minors right now and the big thing for most of them who aren't big time 1st round picks is making the 40-Man. I think at that point with all the rules involved the Org. can't just DFA you without repercussions. I think the players on the 40-Man have the right to be Waived to see if anyone else wants to pick then up.

Like iI said though I'm no lawyer. Its all really complicated. I think that's the gist of it though.

Dyzalot · 10-20-2015, 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ich2232

Pretty sure this is a CBA issue and not OOTP bugs or whatever. IRL organizations can't just move guys around on a whim (even though they do in the Minors). I'm no lawyer but I'm pretty sure there are rules against doing that kind of thing. Like if you were the player and you got hurt and they just dumped you to Triple A after that...it's not very fair to the Player.

I think has something to do with the guys on the 40-Man. I played College Ball and have a few friends in the Minors right now and the big thing for most of them who aren't big time 1st round picks is making the 40-Man. I think at that point with all the rules involved the Org. can't just DFA you without repercussions. I think the players on the 40-Man have the right to be Waived to see if anyone else wants to pick then up.

Like iI said though I'm no lawyer. Its all really complicated. I think that's the gist of it though.

But the CBA rules do allow you to move them to the minors at any time "on a whim" if you wish as long as they still have options. It is only after they have exhausted all of their options that you must waive them and make them available to the rest of the league before they can be demoted to the minors.

tejdog1 · 10-20-2015, 05:48 AM

IRL you can activate someone from the DL and immediately option them down to the minors. The Mets did that this year with Vic Black.

In OOTP, this is not (yet) possible, so you have to two step it as outlined above.

Dyzalot · 10-20-2015, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by tejdog1

IRL you can activate someone from the DL and immediately option them down to the minors. The Mets did that this year with Vic Black.

In OOTP, this is not (yet) possible, so you have to two step it as outlined above.

Actually you can do this in OOTP. I just did it earlier tonight. What you can't do is option someone who is on a rehab assignment.

RchW · 10-20-2015, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Dyzalot

Actually you can do this in OOTP. I just did it earlier tonight. What you can't do is option someone who is on a rehab assignment.

That's what I thought. I was just going to post it.

Le Grande Orange · 10-20-2015, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dyzalot

It is only after they have exhausted all of their options that you must waive them and make them available to the rest of the league before they can be demoted to the minors.

That's not technically correct. A player with options left can require waivers to be optioned to the minors. But this only applies if it has been three or more years since the player first appeared on the active list (with this year limit reduced by one for each option used up prior to first appearing on the active roster).

OOTP does not recreate this rule, however.

faithful2thecall · 10-24-2015, 05:47 AM

In a similar vein, so I don't want to create a new thread for this question. In the default MLB league you have some players who start the file suspended for PED use. For example, Ervin Santana had an 80 game suspension. Are we able to send those players out on rehab assignments before bringing them up to the MLB roster or is that another IRL detail that OOTP hasn't replicated?

09-07-2015, 10:18 PM	#1
Dyzalot All Star Starter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,735	Rehab Assignment Is there a process by which I can move someone from a minor league rehab assignment to the AAA roster? This is a player with options left and the popup you get when the rehab assignment runs out of time is that you must place him on the active roster or designate him for assignment. However, when I try to "DFA" him I am told he has to be waived because he is on the "40 man" roster. I don't want to remove him from that roster. I just want to demote him to the minors. Am I missing how to do this?

10-20-2015, 05:48 AM	#10
tejdog1 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Danbury, CT Posts: 1,647	IRL you can activate someone from the DL and immediately option them down to the minors. The Mets did that this year with Vic Black. In OOTP, this is not (yet) possible, so you have to two step it as outlined above. __________________ It's amazing How you make your face just like a wall How you take your heart and turn it off How I turn my head and lose it all And it's unnerving How just one move puts me by myself There you go just trusting someone else Now I know I put us both through hell ~Matchbox 20, "Leave" Everyone knows it's spelled "TRAID", not trade

09-07-2015, 10:31 PM	#2
craftdr Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 256	I'm not saying this I the best way but it's the only way I've gotten it to work... I demote a player from my ML roster to AAA then promote the rehab player and then immediately demote him to AAA. Then I've found that if you move your ML player back to the ML roster you will not use an option. I guess it's because you haven't moved forward a day. Like I say, it may not be the best or only way but I've had success doing it this way.

09-07-2015, 11:30 PM	#3
Dyzalot All Star Starter Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,735	Ok. That's how I've been doing it but didn't realize it didn't cost me an option. I guess that works. Still feel like you should just be able to "DFA" him and then move him to the minors.

09-08-2015, 07:19 AM	#4
monkeystyxx Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 293	Why'd you send him on a rehab assignment if you were going to demote him anyway?

09-26-2015, 12:59 PM	#8
ich2232 Bat Boy Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 5	Pretty sure this is a CBA issue and not OOTP bugs or whatever. IRL organizations can't just move guys around on a whim (even though they do in the Minors). I'm no lawyer but I'm pretty sure there are rules against doing that kind of thing. Like if you were the player and you got hurt and they just dumped you to Triple A after that...it's not very fair to the Player. I think has something to do with the guys on the 40-Man. I played College Ball and have a few friends in the Minors right now and the big thing for most of them who aren't big time 1st round picks is making the 40-Man. I think at that point with all the rules involved the Org. can't just DFA you without repercussions. I think the players on the 40-Man have the right to be Waived to see if anyone else wants to pick then up. Like iI said though I'm no lawyer. Its all really complicated. I think that's the gist of it though.

10-24-2015, 05:47 AM	#14
faithful2thecall Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Minnesota Posts: 151	In a similar vein, so I don't want to create a new thread for this question. In the default MLB league you have some players who start the file suspended for PED use. For example, Ervin Santana had an 80 game suspension. Are we able to send those players out on rehab assignments before bringing them up to the MLB roster or is that another IRL detail that OOTP hasn't replicated?