online league- suspended player

[waltwa]

in an online league where does a good player go when suspended for lengthy period?

it is start of season and a good player is suspended for 50 games. u don't want to place him on waivers and lose him and u can't place him on disabled list- do u have to keep him on active roster?

[jpeters1734]

same place he'd go in an offline game. I don't believe there's a suspended list so you would have to demote him

[waltwa]

I don't think u fully understood the post. he is a player who can't be demoted w/o going on waivers. what would u do if it was babe ruth? I am sure if it was a choice between waivers or going with 24 players u would choose the latter. my question was is there some sort of list he could be placed on while on suspension that would not expose him to other teams.

[RonCo]

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't think he can be put on some list that protects him. This is among the reasons I think it's perhaps a feature online leagues should consider turning off at present. Perhaps I'm wrong, though.

[waltwa]

when it happened the commissioner demoted the player to aaa for me. but there was nothing I could do. I wonder what happens in real mlb when this happens to a real good player that a team wants to keep

[saturn2187]

They just go onto a Suspended List, that doesn't count against the 25 man roster

[waltwa]

that makes sense and also points out something ootp should add for online leagues

[NoOne]

according to Suspended List -- they do count against the 25 and 40 man roster.

this wiki page told me the opposite. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_...seball_rosters says they can be taken off the 40-man roster.

this wiki page says he does count against 25/40 -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Status...ssional_sports

the mlb 2015 official pdf gave no info pertaining to roster rules. http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/downloads/y20...ball_rules.pdf

i don't know what has less integrity - a sports reporter/blogger or a wiki page.

however 2-to-1 so far... my money is that they do count against 25/40 man rosters. if that is happening, it is essentially what is happening in real life without the asthetic of an actual "suspended list."

while in this case it seems difficult from a very basic google search to get reputable information, it is out there. this is reference material we can double check. the game seems to be handling this the right way unless i misread something above.

i'm not saying anythign in absolute terms, because i am not satisfied with the info i found... definitely don't take someone's word on reference material. it's easily accessible and verifiable.

online/offline this is all the same stuff.

[waltwa]

I am a sf giants fan and I recall Miguel Cabrera received a lengthy suspension for drug usage in 2012- but I don't recall the roster details. however I am inclined to think either u put him on waivers in order to demote or keep him on the 25 man roster if he is valuable.

[TomVeal]

I was under the impression - though I haven't tried to look up confirmation - that suspensions for in-game misconduct count against the roster limits but that other suspensions (e. g., for PED's) don't.

There are plenty of people on this forum, I'm sure, who know the rules by heart. Whatever they are, I agree that OOTP should follow them.

[NYY #23]

Originally Posted by TomVeal

I was under the impression - though I haven't tried to look up confirmation - that suspensions for in-game misconduct count against the roster limits but that other suspensions (e. g., for PED's) don't.

There are plenty of people on this forum, I'm sure, who know the rules by heart. Whatever they are, I agree that OOTP should follow them.

There are definitely different types of lists that are not in OOTP, such as the restricted list, suspended list, disqualified list. Romero was used as an example in this article, and he didn't count on the active roster -

Baseball Prospectus | Contractual Matters: The Restricted List

[TomVeal]

Originally Posted by NYY #23

There are definitely different types of lists that are not in OOTP, such as the restricted list, suspended list, disqualified list. Romero was used as an example in this article, and he didn't count on the active roster -

Baseball Prospectus | Contractual Matters: The Restricted List

Thanks for the pointer. The article does, BTW, confirm what I remembered about the suspended list: "The suspended list is used for players in violation of the prohibited substance ban or as the result of an on-field incident, such as a fight with another player or an incident with an umpire. A player suspended for an on-field incident may not be replaced on the active roster, leaving his team a man short for the duration of the suspension. For example, Tampa Bay played two games in April with a 24-man roster after catcher Dioner Navarro was suspended for bumping an umpire. But Philadelphia was able to field a complete 25-man roster after reliever J.C. Romero tested positive for a banned substance and was suspended for the first 50 games of 2009."