WAR stat

diesel230 · 02-11-2016, 07:34 PM

How does the game come up with the WAR stat? I know how to judge the stat, but not sure how the game gets the final number.

Just looking randomly at a former players stat line

Eric King w l era g gs inn h er hr bb k war
1990 White sox 12 4 3.28 25 25 151.0 135 55 10 40 70 2.3
1991 Indians 6 11 4.60 25 24 150.2 166 77 7 44 59 2.5

This is just back of the baseball card type stats.
From a quick glance, King had the better season in 1990. He gave up 3 more home runs in 1990. Yet King has a higher WAR in 1991 according to the game. What is the formula used that would say King's 1991 deserved the higher WAR?

NoOne · 02-11-2016, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by diesel230

How does the game come up with the WAR stat? I know how to judge the stat, but not sure how the game gets the final number.

Just looking randomly at a former players stat line

Eric King w l era g gs inn h er hr bb k war
1990 White sox 12 4 3.28 25 25 151.0 135 55 10 40 70 2.3
1991 Indians 6 11 4.60 25 24 150.2 166 77 7 44 59 2.5

This is just back of the baseball card type stats.
From a quick glance, King had the better season in 1990. He gave up 3 more home runs in 1990. Yet King has a higher WAR in 1991 according to the game. What is the formula used that would say King's 1991 deserved the higher WAR?

i would assume they use the offical equation - never looked it up myself. it's like QB Rating (right name?) or ESPN's somewhat newly branded QBR. a 120rating isn't necessarily better than a 110rating just because that stat says so. it is not perfectly weighted, and niether is WAR.

it wasn't created to use in such an absolute way.

Matt Arnold · 02-11-2016, 10:09 PM

It's based off of FIP. So assuming the league averages were similar both years, I have his FIP as something like 3.93 in 1990 and 3.90 in 1991 (essentially, the 3 more HR, 4 less walks, and 11 more Ks balance out). So it's very close between the 2. I wouldn't be surprised if you had an extra digit it ended up being something like 2.34 vs 2.45 the 2 years (one rounded down and the other up), and then the fact that his FIP was ever so slightly better the second year, with maybe a similar ever so slightly different league average, means his WAR the second year is a little bit higher.

The fact that he gave up more hits in 1991, and more runs, is basically irrelevant to WAR.

diesel230 · 02-12-2016, 11:45 AM

Thanks guys! Always impressed with the baseball knowledge on the boards.

02-11-2016, 07:34 PM	#1
diesel230 All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 722	WAR stat How does the game come up with the WAR stat? I know how to judge the stat, but not sure how the game gets the final number. Just looking randomly at a former players stat line Eric King w l era g gs inn h er hr bb k war 1990 White sox 12 4 3.28 25 25 151.0 135 55 10 40 70 2.3 1991 Indians 6 11 4.60 25 24 150.2 166 77 7 44 59 2.5 This is just back of the baseball card type stats. From a quick glance, King had the better season in 1990. He gave up 3 more home runs in 1990. Yet King has a higher WAR in 1991 according to the game. What is the formula used that would say King's 1991 deserved the higher WAR?

02-11-2016, 10:09 PM	#3
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,908	It's based off of FIP. So assuming the league averages were similar both years, I have his FIP as something like 3.93 in 1990 and 3.90 in 1991 (essentially, the 3 more HR, 4 less walks, and 11 more Ks balance out). So it's very close between the 2. I wouldn't be surprised if you had an extra digit it ended up being something like 2.34 vs 2.45 the 2 years (one rounded down and the other up), and then the fact that his FIP was ever so slightly better the second year, with maybe a similar ever so slightly different league average, means his WAR the second year is a little bit higher. The fact that he gave up more hits in 1991, and more runs, is basically irrelevant to WAR.

02-12-2016, 11:45 AM	#4
diesel230 All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 722	Thanks guys! Always impressed with the baseball knowledge on the boards.