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Old 03-16-2018, 01:08 PM   #1
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How are three-team tiebreakers resolved in Tournament Round Robin for 19?

I ask this because I had the rare distinction that I went to a last resort tiebreaker in one of my tournaments last night and had do it twice: scheduling a second round tiebreaker game. I normally do this for 3+ way tie ties in Round 1 to determine X playoff spots (using the WBC formula between the tied teams if H2H does not provide proper resolution).

I do real-time simulation on the final days of First/Second Round Pool Plays to manually schedule tiebreakers if at all possible. and the first time was from the Pool E/G groups ending early and Game 7 was properly scheduled and played the next day when F/H closed out. It only played out as I was able to schedule the game in the league schedule editor.

However, the second time did not play out. This happened on the Pool F/H side of things. Pool H had a tie at 1-2 for the final spot into the Quarterfinals. I scheduled Game 7 between Nicaragua and Venezuela for the right to advance to the Quarterfinals. Canada advanced instead on an auto-advance, even though I scheduled the seventh game. Based on WBC rule, Canada would have been eliminated on that tiebreaker which rules Runs Allowed against (RA) tied teams divided by Innings Played on Defense (IPD), as they had the worst RA/IPD.

Did Canada loop hole the rule because they were the host country or is this not applicable at the present time? Is their a way to make that playoff tiebreaker the preliminary round W-L record if that is possible?
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:31 AM   #2
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Canada being the host country has nothing to do with this. Tiebreakers have been screwy for a while.
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Old 03-17-2018, 11:02 AM   #3
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We don't follow the exact rules of the WBC for ties. Our general tiebreaking formula:
-Regular record (ie. through the first 162 games in MLB, through the 3 round-robin games in WBC)
-total record (including tiebreak games)
-head to head among tied teams
-intra-division record (not applicable in WBC)
-intra-league record (not applicable in WBC)
-Run differential in head to head games
-run differential in all games
-runs allowed per inning
-earned runs allowed per inning
-flip a coin

That's for regular season. Playoff round-robin ties I guess are a little different. They go:
-wins
-head to head
-run diff in h2h games
-run diff in series
-flip a coin

Basically, we don't follow the exact WBC or MLB tiebreak rules, but kind of mix and match.
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Old 03-17-2018, 10:59 PM   #4
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We don't follow the exact rules of the WBC for ties. Our general tiebreaking formula:
-Regular record (ie. through the first 162 games in MLB, through the 3 round-robin games in WBC)
-total record (including tiebreak games)
-head to head among tied teams
-intra-division record (not applicable in WBC)
-intra-league record (not applicable in WBC)
-Run differential in head to head games
-run differential in all games
-runs allowed per inning
-earned runs allowed per inning
-flip a coin

That's for regular season. Playoff round-robin ties I guess are a little different. They go:
-wins
-head to head
-run diff in h2h games
-run diff in series
-flip a coin

Basically, we don't follow the exact WBC or MLB tiebreak rules, but kind of mix and match.
Do you think better tie breaking functionality will be in at some point? If it came down to it 'd hate to be a team that didn't advance thanks to a simple luck of the draw coin flip.
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Old 04-11-2019, 02:18 PM   #5
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Playoff round-robin ties I guess are a little different. They go:
-wins
-head to head
-run diff in h2h games
-run diff in series
-flip a coin
So, I just had my Detroit Stars advance out of a 5 game Round Robin group they should not have, and I am a little curious why. We tied for wins with Miami for the second advancing slot, but they absolutely handled us in h2h (we went 1-4, and it wasn't close...), so I'm wondering how, with both of us having 7 wins overall, why we advanced out of the group?


This is my first post here, so if there is something I can attach here to better show what I'm talking about, there will have to be a bit of handholding involved. Thanks!
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