How Would You Realign This League

[The Game]

i want to see some creative ways to realign this league. One rule. Houston stays in the NL. Pittsburgh stays in the AL. i hope to someday see an Astros- Rangers, Phillies-Pirates WS. i mean if you show a cool realignment that has them swapping league I'd consider it.


Also, how many playoff teams should there be? I want to have 7 or 8 per sub league next season.

[Cobby]

Well, I wouldn't say this is creative or anything, but this is what I would do with those teams. First of all, I think 6 is the perfect division size, so I'd keep the 6-6-6 6-6-6 structure with each league having east-central-west divisions as you have now.

AL East
Boston
New York Yankees
Montreal
Toronto
Baltimore
Tampa Bay

(gotta keep the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry. Montreal is geographically closest to Boston so that make sense and Montreal - Toronto would be a fantastic rivalry, and we also get to keep a New York - Florida connection)

AL Central
Chicago White Sox
Detroit
Cleveland
Pittsburgh
Milwaukee
Minnesota

(I always thought Pittsburgh should be in the same division as Cleveland. It would be a good rivalry, I think. Cleveland and Detroit also. Milwaukee and Minnesota belong together also, I think.)


AL West
Seattle
Portland
Oakland
Anaheim
San Diego
Texas

(this is to satisfy your Houston in the NL requirement. Otherwise I'd put Houston in here instead of San Diego. I think Seattle and Portland would be natural rivals and belong together)

NL East
New York Mets
Philadelphia
Charlotte
Atlanta
Miami
Havana

(Miami and Havana need to be divisional rivals. Atlanta and Charlotte would be natural rivals. And we still get to keep the New York - Florida connection)

NL Central
Chicago Cubs
St. Louis
Indianapolis
Cincinnati
Washington
Kansas City

(we get to keep Cubs - Cardinals rivalry, but we have a potential new in-state rivalry bewteen Kansas City and St. Louis. Cincinnati and Indianapolis are close geographically and would be potential rivals. Washington doesn't really fit here, but it's not that bad. Cincinnati and Washington aren't that for apart)

NL West

Los Angeles Dodgers
San Francisco
Las Vegas
Arizona
Colorado
Houston

(I'd prefer to have San Diego here instead of Houston, like I mentioned earlier. The desert cities of Arizona and Las Vegas belong together. Colorado also belongs with them too as these are the three non-coastal western cities. Las Vegas and LA also have a strong connection. And of course we have to keep the Dodgers-Giants rivalry)

Anyway. That's my shot at it...

[Bluenoser]

Here's my current 36 team fictional MLB. Currently in season 106.

I have 4 teams from each league make the play-offs. 3 division winners and 1 WC.
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[Bluenoser]

Here is the 36 team fictional MLB I'll be starting in OOTP22.

Same setup, same amount of play-off teams. Just relocated some teams.
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[Bluenoser]

Interesting setup you have.

A Pittsburgh/Philly WS would be exciting.

After 105+ seasons I'm still waiting on a Cubs/White Sox Series.

[Bobbyraz49]

Did you create this league or did the game add new teams? TY

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by Bobbyraz49

Did you create this league or did the game add new teams? TY

User created.

[Syd Thrift]

Why not go east-west like the NBA? You say Pittsburgh has to be in the AL and Houston in the NL so there’s your setup...

American League

Atlantic
—————
Yankees
Mets
Phillies
Red Sox
Orioles
Pittsburgh

South
————
Braves
Nationals
Charlotte
Havana
Tampa Bay
Miami

Midwest
—————
Cleveland
Cincinnati
Chicago Cubs
Indianapolis
St. Louis
Chicago White Sox

American League

Great White North
—————————
Toronto
Montreal
Detroit
Minnesota
Milwaukee
Colorado

Southwest
——————-
San Diego
Las Vegas
Houston
Kansas City
Texas
Arizona

Pacific
——————-
Seattle
Portland
San Francisco
Oakland
LA Dodgers
LA Angels

Colorado fits in with the North in temperament and weather if not location...

[The Game]

Originally Posted by Cobby

Well, I wouldn't say this is creative or anything, but this is what I would do with those teams. First of all, I think 6 is the perfect division size, so I'd keep the 6-6-6 6-6-6 structure with each league having east-central-west divisions as you have now.

AL East
Boston
New York Yankees
Montreal
Toronto
Baltimore
Tampa Bay

(gotta keep the Yankees-Red Sox rivalry. Montreal is geographically closest to Boston so that make sense and Montreal - Toronto would be a fantastic rivalry, and we also get to keep a New York - Florida connection)

AL Central
Chicago White Sox
Detroit
Cleveland
Pittsburgh
Milwaukee
Minnesota

(I always thought Pittsburgh should be in the same division as Cleveland. It would be a good rivalry, I think. Cleveland and Detroit also. Milwaukee and Minnesota belong together also, I think.)


AL West
Seattle
Portland
Oakland
Anaheim
San Diego
Texas

(this is to satisfy your Houston in the NL requirement. Otherwise I'd put Houston in here instead of San Diego. I think Seattle and Portland would be natural rivals and belong together)

NL East
New York Mets
Philadelphia
Charlotte
Atlanta
Miami
Havana

(Miami and Havana need to be divisional rivals. Atlanta and Charlotte would be natural rivals. And we still get to keep the New York - Florida connection)

NL Central
Chicago Cubs
St. Louis
Indianapolis
Cincinnati
Washington
Kansas City

(we get to keep Cubs - Cardinals rivalry, but we have a potential new in-state rivalry bewteen Kansas City and St. Louis. Cincinnati and Indianapolis are close geographically and would be potential rivals. Washington doesn't really fit here, but it's not that bad. Cincinnati and Washington aren't that for apart)

NL West

Los Angeles Dodgers
San Francisco
Las Vegas
Arizona
Colorado
Houston

(I'd prefer to have San Diego here instead of Houston, like I mentioned earlier. The desert cities of Arizona and Las Vegas belong together. Colorado also belongs with them too as these are the three non-coastal western cities. Las Vegas and LA also have a strong connection. And of course we have to keep the Dodgers-Giants rivalry)

Anyway. That's my shot at it...

I'm not against yours. The issues i have with mine and yours is it puts an east coast team in the Central division. Also I want interstate world Series so putting Montreal & Tororonto, Texas & Houston in the same league is something i am mostly against. I do like Milwaukee back in the AL. Growing uo they were the #1 team i hated the most, now it;s Cleveland.

[The Game]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Interesting setup you have.

A Pittsburgh/Philly WS would be exciting.

After 105+ seasons I'm still waiting on a Cubs/White Sox Series.

2021. Sox AL Central winners. Cubs 2nd WC. If it comes true, all credit goes to my dad. In my game the Sox played the Cubs again in 2027
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[The Game]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Why not go east-west like the NBA? You say Pittsburgh has to be in the AL and Houston in the NL so there’s your setup...

American League

Atlantic
—————
Yankees
Mets
Phillies
Red Sox
Orioles
Pittsburgh

South
————
Braves
Nationals
Charlotte
Havana
Tampa Bay
Miami

Midwest
—————
Cleveland
Cincinnati
Chicago Cubs
Indianapolis
St. Louis
Chicago White Sox

American League

Great White North
—————————
Toronto
Montreal
Detroit
Minnesota
Milwaukee
Colorado

Southwest
——————-
San Diego
Las Vegas
Houston
Kansas City
Texas
Arizona

Pacific
——————-
Seattle
Portland
San Francisco
Oakland
LA Dodgers
LA Angels

Colorado fits in with the North in temperament and weather if not location...

I've considered this but i want state rivals to play in the WS vs each other. Sox vs Cubs, Kc vs STL etc. Thats why i want HOuston in the Nl and Texas in the AL and Pittsburgh in the AL and Philly in the NL.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

You could always put certain teams back in their classic locations, if you want that to happen, with two or four divisions per league, I think, The Game. Or not, if you so choose. You could then possibly have cross-town Series from time to time as well, if so.

In my honest opinion, Pittsburgh best belongs in the NL, while the Brewers belong best in the AL. I'd perhaps suggest two nine-team divisions in each league, or four five-team divisions in each league, for less complexity with the playoff setups for that overall league, if it were me, I think. I'm also not really in favor of allowing wild-card teams, to be honest, if they don't actually have to be there at all.

Of course, it's your game, as always, so you can do as you wish. But why not bring back some older team names, and evoke a more classical feel to the league, if and whenever you can? Just a few thoughts here, that's all, which you can take or not as you wish, you know.

Thank you for your time and all here, then. That is all for now, at least. CD out.

[Cobby]

Originally Posted by The Game

I'm not against yours. The issues i have with mine and yours is it puts an east coast team in the Central division. Also I want interstate world Series so putting Montreal & Tororonto, Texas & Houston in the same league is something i am mostly against. I do like Milwaukee back in the AL. Growing uo they were the #1 team i hated the most, now it;s Cleveland.

Ooh, I've got a good one for you. All of the same-state teams are in different leagues (except for California - too many teams in that state) and it somewhat makes sense geopgraphicaly and it addresses most of my little issues from my last attempt:

AL East
Boston
New York Yankees
Baltimore
Charlotte
Atlanta
Tampa Bay
(still get to keep NY-Boston and Charlotte-Atlanta as rivalries)

AL Central
Toronto
Cleveland
Pittsburgh
Detroit
Chicago White Sox
Kansas City
(Kansas City instead of Milwaukee or Minnesota so the Missouri teams can be in separate leagues)
(Cleveland-Detroit and Cleveland-Pittsburgh will be nice rivalries)

AL West
Seattle
Portland
Oakland
Anaheim
San Diego
Texas
(Seattle-Portland, definitely)


NL East
Montreal
New York Mets
Philadelphia
Washington
Miami
Havana
(Havana-Miami, for sure!)

NL Central
Chicago Cubs
Indianapolis
Cincinnati
Milwaukee
Minnesota
St. Louis
(Chicago-St. Louis, of course, but also Cincinnati-Indianapolis)

NL West
San Francisco
LA Dodgers
Arizona
Las Vegas
Colorado
Houston
(LA-SF) (LV-AZ)


Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! (the only thing is you have to get used to having some long-time AL and NL teams switch leagues. But if Pittsburgh is going to be in the AL, that shouldn't be *too* hard to take.)

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Would something like this perhaps work, The Game? Just a thought here, that's all.

American League East:

Boston Red Sox
Brooklyn Dodgers
Cincinnati Reds
New York Yankees
Philadelphia Athletics
Pittsburgh Pirates

American League North:

Chicago White Sox
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
Milwaukee Brewers
Minnesota Twins
Toronto Blue Jays

American League South:

Baltimore Orioles
Carolina Pilots
Memphis Blues
New Orleans Pelicans
St. Louis Browns
Washington Senators

American League West:

Las Vegas Aces
Oakland Oaks
Oklahoma Outlaws
Portland Beavers
Mexico City Jaguars
Vancouver Grizzlies

National League East:

Boston Braves
Buffalo Lakers
Havana Sugar Kings
New York Mets
San Juan
Virginia

National League North:

Chicago Cubs
Green Bay Loggers
Kansas City Royals
Montreal Expos
Ottawa Capitols
St. Louis Cardinals

National League South:

Atlanta Thrashers
Florida Marlins
Houston Astros
Kingston Hummers
Tampa Bay Devil Rays
Texas Rangers

National League West:

Arizona Diamondbacks
California Angels
Colorado Rockies
San Diego Padres
San Francisco Giants
Seattle Mariners

That would make certain things quite a bit interesting, don't you think? I do believe it would, at least. CD out.

[The Game]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

You could always put certain teams back in their classic locations, if you want that to happen, with two or four divisions per league, I think, The Game. Or not, if you so choose. You could then possibly have cross-town Series from time to time as well, if so.

In my honest opinion, Pittsburgh best belongs in the NL, while the Brewers belong best in the AL. I'd perhaps suggest two nine-team divisions in each league, or four five-team divisions in each league, for less complexity with the playoff setups for that overall league, if it were me, I think. I'm also not really in favor of allowing wild-card teams, to be honest, if they don't actually have to be there at all.

Of course, it's your game, as always, so you can do as you wish. But why not bring back some older team names, and evoke a more classical feel to the league, if and whenever you can? Just a few thoughts here, that's all, which you can take or not as you wish, you know.

Thank you for your time and all here, then. That is all for now, at least. CD out.

[The Game]

Originally Posted by Cobby

Ooh, I've got a good one for you. All of the same-state teams are in different leagues (except for California - too many teams in that state) and it somewhat makes sense geopgraphicaly and it addresses most of my little issues from my last attempt:

AL East
Boston
New York Yankees
Baltimore
Charlotte
Atlanta
Tampa Bay
(still get to keep NY-Boston and Charlotte-Atlanta as rivalries)

AL Central
Toronto
Cleveland
Pittsburgh
Detroit
Chicago White Sox
Kansas City
(Kansas City instead of Milwaukee or Minnesota so the Missouri teams can be in separate leagues)
(Cleveland-Detroit and Cleveland-Pittsburgh will be nice rivalries)

AL West
Seattle
Portland
Oakland
Anaheim
San Diego
Texas
(Seattle-Portland, definitely)


NL East
Montreal
New York Mets
Philadelphia
Washington
Miami
Havana
(Havana-Miami, for sure!)

NL Central
Chicago Cubs
Indianapolis
Cincinnati
Milwaukee
Minnesota
St. Louis
(Chicago-St. Louis, of course, but also Cincinnati-Indianapolis)

NL West
San Francisco
LA Dodgers
Arizona
Las Vegas
Colorado
Houston
(LA-SF) (LV-AZ)


Ding! Ding! Ding! We have a winner! (the only thing is you have to get used to having some long-time AL and NL teams switch leagues. But if Pittsburgh is going to be in the AL, that shouldn't be *too* hard to take.)

Yeah, I am a huge fan of this. It shakes it up just enough to be new and exciting and creates new rivalries while keeping several old classic ones. Thank You.

[The Game]

Originally Posted by Clovidequano Dovatha

Would something like this perhaps work, The Game? Just a thought here, that's all.

American League East:

Boston Red Sox
Brooklyn Dodgers
Cincinnati Reds
New York Yankees
Philadelphia Athletics
Pittsburgh Pirates

American League North:

Chicago White Sox
Cleveland Indians
Detroit Tigers
Milwaukee Brewers
Minnesota Twins
Toronto Blue Jays

American League South:

Baltimore Orioles
Carolina Pilots
Memphis Blues
New Orleans Pelicans
St. Louis Browns
Washington Senators

American League West:

Las Vegas Aces
Oakland Oaks
Oklahoma Outlaws
Portland Beavers
Mexico City Jaguars
Vancouver Grizzlies

National League East:

Boston Braves
Buffalo Lakers
Havana Sugar Kings
New York Mets
San Juan
Virginia

National League North:

Chicago Cubs
Green Bay Loggers
Kansas City Royals
Montreal Expos
Ottawa Capitols
St. Louis Cardinals

National League South:

Atlanta Thrashers
Florida Marlins
Houston Astros
Kingston Hummers
Tampa Bay Devil Rays
Texas Rangers

National League West:

Arizona Diamondbacks
California Angels
Colorado Rockies
San Diego Padres
San Francisco Giants
Seattle Mariners

That would make certain things quite a bit interesting, don't you think? I do believe it would, at least. CD out.

i don't hate this but i only have 36 teams. i am not going to expand the league by 12 teams in one off season. i am considering contraction when i get to the 2041 season, although it is possible for expansion that year as well. If i do expand i would expand max 4 teams. So you're alignment would be good for 2060 not 2036.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

Point taken, The Game. Then in that case, let's see if something more like this is closer to your style.

American League East:

Baltimore Orioles
Boston Red Sox
Brooklyn Dodgers
Cincinnati Reds
Cleveland
New York Yankees
Philadelphia Athletics
Pittsburgh Pirates
Washington Senators

American League West:

Carolina
Chicago White Sox
Detroit Tigers
Milwaukee Brewers
Minnesota Twins
Portland Beavers
St. Louis Browns
Seattle Mariners
Toronto Blue Jays

National League East:

Atlanta
Boston Braves
Chicago Cubs
Florida Marlins
Havana Sugar Kings
Kingston Hummers
Montreal Expos
New York Mets
St. Louis Cardinals

National League West:

Arizona Diamondbacks
California Angels
Colorado Rockies
Houston Astros
Kansas City Royals
Las Vegas Aces
San Diego Padres
San Francisco Giants
Texas Rangers

That has your required 36 different team names, and still uses many of your current locations, while also throwing things back a little. It isn't a perfect mixture of both traditional and uncommon team names or locations, mind you, but it does fit at least a few of your criteria, I believe, here. Take this suggestion as you will or not, and use it or not as you like and can. Thank you for your time and all, The Game. That is all. CD out.

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by The Game

I've considered this but i want state rivals to play in the WS vs each other. Sox vs Cubs, Kc vs STL etc. Thats why i want HOuston in the Nl and Texas in the AL and Pittsburgh in the AL and Philly in the NL.

Personally I’d rather see those teams face each other 12 times a year instead of once in a blue moon but YMMV.

[Clovidequano Dovatha]

As far as the other team names and/or locations from the previous proposal of mine before this one, and/or from your relevant existing game, you could certainly use those items for other leagues and all, of course, or not, as you so wish and can, you know. I mean, it's all up to you here, not any of us, ultimately. CD out.