"Stock" Defense

[frankbama]

I've been playing since '21 and still don't really understand the stock defense number. Boog Powell for example. His stock number is 89 but the individual ratings pretty much suck.
48/57/43/43. How does a guy with those ratings end up as an 89? What else is involved in defense that goes into that overall number?

[Leo_The_Lip]

Originally Posted by frankbama

I've been playing since '21 and still don't really understand the stock defense number. Boog Powell for example. His stock number is 89 but the individual ratings pretty much suck.
48/57/43/43. How does a guy with those ratings end up as an 89? What else is involved in defense that goes into that overall number?

He plays first base, not a premium positon. Compare his ratings to other first base only types and you'll understand. Plus he is tall, and that matters at first base only.

[frankbama]

I would think their ratings are their ratings so the overall stock number would still be based upon those. If he was put at 2b those ratings would still apply and he'd be terrible wouldn't he? Therefore he'd have a 1 at 2b. Theoretically, I know the game wouldn't allow you to put him at 2nd.

Compared with someone most of us have, Jimmie Foxx - still at 1b, every rating is better, especially error and still a 70, much lower than Boog. He's still 6ft tall, not a little guy.

Gehrig's only a 79 but with much better ratings and still 6'.

Sisler to me makes sense. Good range but boots the ball around so he ends up a 68.

I know people get more worked up over the overall card numbers but I'm wondering now if the overall defense makes any difference at all either.

[bonalditaylor]

https://ootpcalculator.com/position-calculator

This is an old calculator, but it shows you the difference between Boog Powell's if his only stat change was his height from 6'-0" to 6'-4";

6'-0" 1B Boog = 74
6'-4" 1B Boog = 92

Just being 6'-4" in OOTP gives a huge boost to 1B as you can see.

[Leo_The_Lip]

Originally Posted by frankbama

I would think their ratings are their ratings so the overall stock number would still be based upon those. If he was put at 2b those ratings would still apply and he'd be terrible wouldn't he? Therefore he'd have a 1 at 2b. Theoretically, I know the game wouldn't allow you to put him at 2nd.

Compared with someone most of us have, Jimmie Foxx - still at 1b, every rating is better, especially error and still a 70, much lower than Boog. He's still 6ft tall, not a little guy.

Gehrig's only a 79 but with much better ratings and still 6'.

Sisler to me makes sense. Good range but boots the ball around so he ends up a 68.

I know people get more worked up over the overall card numbers but I'm wondering now if the overall defense makes any difference at all either.

Perhaps I miss construed you. What do you mean by "overall stock number"? No one who plays OOTP would ever use such a phrase.

My suggestion is that you spend some time playing real OOTP to get a feel for how this baseball game actually operates.

[frankbama]

Earnin your moniker there, Leo. Stock defense number. Defensive stock number. Stock defense numeral. Stock enumeration. Total defense overall rating number in the "stock variety". Whatever you want to call it, The number next to the DEF.
It's what DRC was calling it though didn't add the word number after it.

[Leo_The_Lip]

Originally Posted by frankbama

Earnin your moniker there, Leo. Stock defense number. Defensive stock number. Stock defense numeral. Stock enumeration. Total defense overall rating number in the "stock variety". Whatever you want to call it, The number next to the DEF.
It's what DRC was calling it though didn't add the word number after it.

There is no such thing as defensive stock number or whatever you are fumbling for.

Position Rating. Read that again. Position Rating.

It is not what I want to call it, it is the term as used in OOTP. And that term is Postion Rating. There's a report listing all of them that you can access from the VIEW postion ratings drop down report.

And if you don't know who Leo "The Lip" Durocher was, that is likely the source of all your problems. Lack of basic, fundamental baseball knowledge.

Sorry I cannont help you any more than that.

[frankbama]

LOL. I know who Durocher was. And that an umpire told Furillo to kill him when they were fighting.

That would be OOTP game knowledge anyway. That's why questions are asked.