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Old 06-15-2020, 12:50 PM   #1
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why so many OLD players in amateur draft?

I have a fictional league. The players in the draft pool in my first regular amateur draft include many very old players (by draft standards), including many 25-26-year-old players supposedly drafted right from high school. The first round (10 picks total) was made up of a 32-year old, four 31-year-olds, a 30-year-old and four 18-year-olds. In the fifth round I have a 33-year-old drafted out of high school.

I don't see anything in the league settings that addresses ages for players in the draft. Has anyone had this issue, or does anyone know of a setting anywhere to fix this?

thanks if you can help.
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Old 06-15-2020, 01:00 PM   #2
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maybe the answer to this is in the 'created player settings.' I had that set from 15 to 40 for the initial creation of all of the players in the league, but perhaps now it is still using that setting for creating the draft pool(?), and it might make sense to alter that now to be something like 16-23. I'd welcome any thoughts.
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Old 06-15-2020, 01:06 PM   #3
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maybe the answer to this is in the 'created player settings.' I had that set from 15 to 40 for the initial creation of all of the players in the league, but perhaps now it is still using that setting for creating the draft pool(?), and it might make sense to alter that now to be something like 16-23. I'd welcome any thoughts.
Yeah, that's likely the issue.
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Old 06-16-2020, 11:05 AM   #4
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I always put my created player setting at 18 to 30. That gets rid of these aged 40 old farts that always seem to get put onto the roster of a newly created team. Plus I don't want any 15-16 year olds who will take five years to develop.
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Old 06-16-2020, 12:04 PM   #5
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I have a fictional league. The players in the draft pool in my first regular amateur draft include many very old players (by draft standards), including many 25-26-year-old players supposedly drafted right from high school. The first round (10 picks total) was made up of a 32-year old, four 31-year-olds, a 30-year-old and four 18-year-olds. In the fifth round I have a 33-year-old drafted out of high school.

I don't see anything in the league settings that addresses ages for players in the draft. Has anyone had this issue, or does anyone know of a setting anywhere to fix this?

thanks if you can help.
I experienced the same thing in the most recent amateur draft in my fictional league and had decided that this might be the cause. It is odd though, as I've not touched these settings over the course of four iterations of the game and now in my thirteenth year of the league and this never happened before now. Amateur draft pools were all comfortably players between 17 and 22 (mostly 18 or 21) in earlier versions of the game.

As I move very slowly (playing out every game for my team) it will be awhile before I reach the next draft to see if changing this setting fixes things. (I know, I could always test it with another league, but haven't.) So I'll be very curious to hear if this fixes things for you. (Or if it already has.)
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Old 06-17-2020, 05:39 PM   #6
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They probably got held back.
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Old 06-19-2020, 04:08 PM   #7
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I have written here about this problem before...100+ views, but no responses, not even from the mods (here or via PM). So I feel your pain. I continue to generate amateur drafts in which a high % of the players are too old. I'm getting 21-year-old high schoolers who have played SIX years in high school, and similar waves of 24-year-old collegians (six years in college). Adjusting the created player setting has done nothing. Any words of wisdom out there? Mods? Thanks.
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I have written here about this problem before...100+ views, but no responses, not even from the mods (here or via PM). So I feel your pain. I continue to generate amateur drafts in which a high % of the players are too old. I'm getting 21-year-old high schoolers who have played SIX years in high school, and similar waves of 24-year-old collegians (six years in college). Adjusting the created player setting has done nothing. Any words of wisdom out there? Mods? Thanks.
What specific kind of league are you playing? Is this with feeders or with the game generated draft pool? Have you changed any draft related settings from default?
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Old 06-19-2020, 06:59 PM   #9
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I'm in year 7 of a Standard Game, with the game generating the draft pool. The ages seem to have been more realistic early on, but at least the last three drafts have been off-kilter. The only draft setting I've changed is to reduce the number of rounds.
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Old 06-19-2020, 10:14 PM   #10
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I'm in year 7 of a Standard Game, with the game generating the draft pool. The ages seem to have been more realistic early on, but at least the last three drafts have been off-kilter. The only draft setting I've changed is to reduce the number of rounds.

That’s bc the first few are real classes, the next arw auto generated
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Old 06-19-2020, 10:22 PM   #11
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Yes, I understand that...and that's exactly the problem I am hoping to have resolved. I would think the game-generated classes would/should have realistic ages, right?
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Yes, I understand that...and that's exactly the problem I am hoping to have resolved. I would think the game-generated classes would/should have realistic ages, right?

Should.

Im not a fan of the auto generated drafts, they also feature less top end talent, especially when it comes to batters.
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Agreed
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I'm in year 7 of a Standard Game, with the game generating the draft pool. The ages seem to have been more realistic early on, but at least the last three drafts have been off-kilter. The only draft setting I've changed is to reduce the number of rounds.
If you can upload a copy of the league file we can check it out and see what's going on.
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Old 06-20-2020, 10:46 AM   #15
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I'm in year 7 of a Standard Game, with the game generating the draft pool. The ages seem to have been more realistic early on, but at least the last three drafts have been off-kilter. The only draft setting I've changed is to reduce the number of rounds.
When did you start playing your standard game? If you started it on one of the earlier patches their was an issue with draft age if you had foreign leagues active. It would take a few seasons for those players to go through the new pipeline system and until you would see the new generated players.
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Old 06-20-2020, 11:21 PM   #16
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I've applied one patch since purchasing (the second-to-last, not the latest).
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Old 06-21-2020, 12:58 PM   #17
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I'm in year 7 of a Standard Game, with the game generating the draft pool. The ages seem to have been more realistic early on, but at least the last three drafts have been off-kilter. The only draft setting I've changed is to reduce the number of rounds.

I'm having the same issue. I'm in a standard game, 2024. Over 50% of the college eligible players are 23-24, there are more 24 year olds in the draft pool than 22 year olds. High school players, over half are 19+ and there are more 20 year olds than 18 year olds among the available high schoolers.


I do have foreign leagues turned on and saw a response above that a patch fixed this, but it will take several drafts to see the fix. I think I was in 2022 when I downloaded the patch.
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Old 06-21-2020, 09:58 PM   #18
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Here are a few examples of prospects in my upcoming 2024 draft class. These are all among the top 6 prospects. Guys are playing 5 years of high school, leaving college as a Junior after 5 years of college etc. The result is most of the HS players are 19-20 and most college players are 23-24.
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I've applied one patch since purchasing (the second-to-last, not the latest).
This mention does remind me about the fix. The thing is, as WIUPIKE mentions, if the league was started before the patch and the classes generated then, it might take a bit to get the players with the right ages filling the pool again, and the patch wouldn't have automatically fixed the players already created with the wrong ages.

So probably just need to either regenerate those classes or just advance until the older players are all out of the pool.
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Old 06-23-2020, 05:23 PM   #20
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Following up on this post with a few questions.

I'm at the date of the 2024 draft. Would it be bad to delete and then re-generate a new draft class for 2024 on the day of the draft? I'm assuming scouting may be low, but otherwise? If it's not recommended to do on day of the draft, when is a good time?

And second, I have searched the manual, settings, and the boards for how to do this. That being, delete the draft class and generate a new one. Any instructions on how to do this are greatly appreciated!
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