1973 Northwest League

Braden · 04-27-2022, 08:46 AM

Has anyone set up this league for OOTP. This is the year of the Portland Mavericks, the subject of the good documentary The Battling Bastards of Baseball

thehef · 04-28-2022, 02:26 PM

I haven't but would like to try it sometime. How I would do it is to start a historical game, with minors, for 1973, then:

1) Remove the major league affiliations for Bellingham (LA), Lewiston (OAK), Seattle (CIN), and Walla Walla (SD). You do this by going to League Settings > League & Teams, selecting (in this example) the Northwest League, and changing the affiliations to "none." This way all teams are independent and won't be affected by an MLB organizations up & down moves. (Not sure if it would be a concern to you or not, but this shouldn't have much affect on future major leaguers because very few players in the '73 NW League ever made the majors.)

2) Create a separate manager for each of the teams and have that GM/manager control (on the Manager Options panel, under Team Control Settings) Transactions, Initiate/React to Trades, Drafting Players, etc. You'll leave things like Setting Lineups & Depth Charts, Setting Pitching Staff, Player Strategies, and Active Roster Moves to Computer AI, promotions/demotions (from the reserve roster). The idea here is that anything that you want to keep the rosters static - no releases and free agent signings. So by assigning these to the Managers you created, none of these transactions will happen unless you go in - acting as or assigned as that manager - and make moves. However, by letting Computer AI handle lineups, pitching rotation & roles, player moves to and from the reserve roster, and so forth, you won't have to micro manage each team.

3) Go thru each team's roster, comparing baseballreference.com to OOTP, and move players as needed so your rosters are historically accurate. For the teams that were independent to begin with (Portland & Tri-City), you'll find that their rosters are already pretty accurate. For the other four teams that were affiliated, those players may be scattered about the organizations of their initial affiliation (that you removed in step 1).

4) You may or may not need to lock players to rosters in order to keep AI managers from releasing some of them. (You shouldn't have to based upon what was done in Step 2 above.)

There may be more steps, but this is probably a good starting point for replaying this league/season. And especially with OOTP there is more than one way to skin a cat. Others may have additional suggestions and/or other ways to accomplish this.

At any rate, once you've got everything setup and ready to start the season, I HIGHLY recommend making a backup, and then simply tesing everything out to make sure things are progressing in terms of rosters and player movement (and perhaps other stuff that interests you) in the manner that you expect. Then, if all looks good, restore from your backup and have a blast! If not, restore from your backup and start tweaking things...

Finally, the above is all under the assumption that historically-accurate rosters are important to you. If they are not then you can ignore most of what I wrote above

Good luck and report back!

italyprof · 05-02-2022, 07:09 AM

Cool! Thanks.

Braden · 05-05-2022, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by thehef

I haven't but would like to try it sometime. How I would do it is to start a historical game, with minors, for 1973, then:

1) Remove the major league affiliations for Bellinghame (LA), Lewiston (OAK), Seattle (CIN), and Walla Walla (SD). This way all teams are independent and won't be affected by an MLB organizations up & down moves. (Not sure if it would be a concern to you or not, but this shouldn't have much affect on future major leaguers because very few players in the '73 NW League ever made the majors.)
2) Create a separate manager for each of the teams and have that GM/manager control lineups, promotions/demotions (from the reserve roster).
3) Go thru each team's roster, comparing baseballreference.com to OOTP, and move players as needed so your rosters are historically accurate. For the teams that were independent to begin with (Portland & Tri-City), you'll find that their rosters are already pretty accurate. For the other four teams that were affiliated, those players may be scattered about the organizations of their initial affiliation (that you removed in step 1).
4) You may or may not need to lock players to rosters in order to keep AI managers from releasing some of them.

There may be more steps, but this is probably a good starting point for replaying this league/season. And especially with OOTP there is more than one way to skin a cat. Others may have additional suggestions and/or other ways to accomplish this.

At any rate, once you've got everything setup and ready to start the season, I HIGHLY recommend making a backup, and then simply tesing everything out to make sure things are progressing in terms of rosters and player movement (and perhaps other stuff that interests you) in the manner that you expect. Then, if all looks good, restore from your backup and have a blast! If not, restore from your backup and start tweaking things...

Finally, the above is all under the assumption that historically-accurate rosters are important to you. If they are not then you can ignore most of what I wrote above

Good luck and report back!

It took me a couple tries before I got it all set up correctly, but it turned out fine. I started playing that season today. To bad, there are the correct parks for those 6 teams! Thanks for your help. Your instructions were good.

thehef · 05-05-2022, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden

It took me a couple tries before I got it all set up correctly, but it turned out fine. I started playing that season today. To bad, there are the correct parks for those 6 teams! Thanks for your help. Your instructions were good.

Awesome! Thanks for reporting back!

Did you deviate from those instructions at all and/or do anything in addition to them that helped the process along? Curious for my future reference

Braden · 05-05-2022, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by thehef

Awesome! Thanks for reporting back!

Did you deviate from those instructions at all and/or do anything in addition to them that helped the process along? Curious for my future reference

No, I followed your instruction. It may help others if you clarified where some setting are found, e.g., removing the affiliations which are in the advanced initial setup, locking the players that are in the game options. Those things took me some to time to find.

thehef · 05-05-2022, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden

No, I followed your instruction. It may help others if you clarified where some setting are found, e.g., removing the affiliations which are in the advanced initial setup, locking the players that are in the game options. Those things took me some to time to find.

Gotcha. I will do that!

Also, LMK if you plan on advancing to future seasons, like 1974. There are a few steps for a smooth transition...

thehef · 05-06-2022, 01:31 AM

Quick question:

On step #3, I don't know closely you tried to make rosters the same as in real life, but did you find that some players were not available / were not in OOTP? Or were they all there?

Braden · 05-06-2022, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thehef

Gotcha. I will do that!

Also, LMK if you plan on advancing to future seasons, like 1974. There are a few steps for a smooth transition...

I think I will try and advance each season, up until and including the Mavericks last in 1977. What do I have to do?

Braden · 05-06-2022, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by thehef

Quick question:

On step #3, I don't know closely you tried to make rosters the same as in real life, but did you find that some players were not available / were not in OOTP? Or were they all there?

There are a few missing from each team, but the one's who played the most are there. The missing ones are not in the OOTP database. I don't think those few will make any difference in a team's performance.

thehef · 05-06-2022, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden

There are a few missing from each team, but the one's who played the most are there. The missing ones are not in the OOTP database. I don't think those few will make any difference in a team's performance.

When you say they are not in the OOTP database, I'm not sure what you mean... What I'm trying to determine is if there are players that should be importing, but are not. This would be due to one of two reason (that I can think of): 1) a known issue where some players are in the master OOTP players files and should import, but do not, or 2) the players are not in the database.

Braden · 05-06-2022, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by thehef

When you say they are not in the OOTP database, I'm not sure what you mean... What I'm trying to determine is if there are players that should be importing, but are not. This would be due to one of two reason (that I can think of): 1) a known issue where some players are in the master OOTP players files and should import, but do not, or 2) the players are not in the database.

I looked in the players .csv file and couldn't find any, e.g. Phipps, but if I look in names.xml for Phipps that name is there but no first name so, I don't know if it is the right guy.

Braden · 05-08-2022, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Braden

I looked in the players .csv file and couldn't find any, e.g. Phipps, but if I look in names.xml for Phipps that name is there but no first name so, I don't know if it is the right guy.

I take that back, Phipps is on a team. I looked up the wrong name. But Pini is listed in the baseball reference but is not on the team in OOTP.

thehef · 06-16-2022, 12:16 AM

Wondering how far you took this and if you had any updates on how it went / how it's going...

Braden · 06-16-2022, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by thehef

Wondering how far you took this and if you had any updates on how it went / how it's going...

I am only up to 31May 73, but everything thing seems fine. I am also plying the Negro League starting in 1927. So, I bounce back and forth.

reflections · 06-16-2022, 10:44 AM

Big question.. How is Kurt Russell playing?

Braden · 06-16-2022, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by reflections

Big question.. How is Kurt Russell playing?

He is doing good but doesn't get a lot of play time as it is hard taking Reggie Thomas out of the lineup!

thehef · 09-28-2022, 04:15 PM

Just wondering if you have any update on this, if you've finished the season and transitioned to 1974 yet...

Braden · 09-28-2022, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thehef

Just wondering if you have any update on this, if you've finished the season and transitioned to 1974 yet...

No, I have about 2 months left in 1974. I have been focused on my 1927 Negro league, and that is almost done. I am also interested in seeing what happen when that league moves to 1928.

Braden · 09-29-2022, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Braden

No, I have about 2 months left in 1974. I have been focused on my 1927 Negro league, and that is almost done. I am also interested in seeing what happen when that league moves to 1928.

I finished 1973 season and Walla Walla won. When I tried to move on to 1974 it keeps hanging up for a complete roster for a New York team that is not even in the league. I think I will have to start from scratch for 1974.

04-27-2022, 08:46 AM	#1
Braden Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 491	1973 Northwest League Has anyone set up this league for OOTP. This is the year of the Portland Mavericks, the subject of the good documentary The Battling Bastards of Baseball

04-28-2022, 02:26 PM	#2
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,345	I haven't but would like to try it sometime. How I would do it is to start a historical game, with minors, for 1973, then: 1) Remove the major league affiliations for Bellingham (LA), Lewiston (OAK), Seattle (CIN), and Walla Walla (SD). You do this by going to League Settings > League & Teams, selecting (in this example) the Northwest League, and changing the affiliations to "none." This way all teams are independent and won't be affected by an MLB organizations up & down moves. (Not sure if it would be a concern to you or not, but this shouldn't have much affect on future major leaguers because very few players in the '73 NW League ever made the majors.) 2) Create a separate manager for each of the teams and have that GM/manager control (on the Manager Options panel, under Team Control Settings) Transactions, Initiate/React to Trades, Drafting Players, etc. You'll leave things like Setting Lineups & Depth Charts, Setting Pitching Staff, Player Strategies, and Active Roster Moves to Computer AI, promotions/demotions (from the reserve roster). The idea here is that anything that you want to keep the rosters static - no releases and free agent signings. So by assigning these to the Managers you created, none of these transactions will happen unless you go in - acting as or assigned as that manager - and make moves. However, by letting Computer AI handle lineups, pitching rotation & roles, player moves to and from the reserve roster, and so forth, you won't have to micro manage each team. 3) Go thru each team's roster, comparing baseballreference.com to OOTP, and move players as needed so your rosters are historically accurate. For the teams that were independent to begin with (Portland & Tri-City), you'll find that their rosters are already pretty accurate. For the other four teams that were affiliated, those players may be scattered about the organizations of their initial affiliation (that you removed in step 1). 4) You may or may not need to lock players to rosters in order to keep AI managers from releasing some of them. (You shouldn't have to based upon what was done in Step 2 above.) There may be more steps, but this is probably a good starting point for replaying this league/season. And especially with OOTP there is more than one way to skin a cat. Others may have additional suggestions and/or other ways to accomplish this. At any rate, once you've got everything setup and ready to start the season, I HIGHLY recommend making a backup, and then simply tesing everything out to make sure things are progressing in terms of rosters and player movement (and perhaps other stuff that interests you) in the manner that you expect. Then, if all looks good, restore from your backup and have a blast! If not, restore from your backup and start tweaking things... Finally, the above is all under the assumption that historically-accurate rosters are important to you. If they are not then you can ignore most of what I wrote above Good luck and report back! Last edited by thehef; 04-16-2024 at 01:27 AM. Reason: corrections, updates, clarity

05-06-2022, 01:31 AM	#8
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,345	Quick question: On step #3, I don't know closely you tried to make rosters the same as in real life, but did you find that some players were not available / were not in OOTP? Or were they all there? Last edited by thehef; 05-06-2022 at 02:09 AM.

05-02-2022, 07:09 AM	#3
italyprof All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,024	Cool! Thanks.

06-16-2022, 12:16 AM	#14
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,345	Wondering how far you took this and if you had any updates on how it went / how it's going...

06-16-2022, 10:44 AM	#16
reflections Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Tumwater, Washington Posts: 174	Big question.. How is Kurt Russell playing?

09-28-2022, 04:15 PM	#18
thehef Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,345	Just wondering if you have any update on this, if you've finished the season and transitioned to 1974 yet...