Can I use a 35 or 40 Stamina (out of 80) as SP?

[Skevich]

I have two SP's that have low stamina, but great pitching ratings. I need SP desperately. One is at 35 stamina, the other at 40, out of 80 possible. Can I use them each as a SP for a full season? Both have at least 3 above average pitches. Or should I make one an opener and the other a follower?

[Daniel_09]

Originally Posted by Skevich

I have two SP's that have low stamina, but great pitching ratings. I need SP desperately. One is at 35 stamina, the other at 40, out of 80 possible. Can I use them each as a SP for a full season? Both have at least 3 above average pitches. Or should I make one an opener and the other a follower?

35 seems too low to me, but 40 is manageable, you can impose a maximum number of pitches as they will not be effective once he is exhausted, you can also set the pitcher NOT to face the lineup for the 3rd time.

I would only make this decision if the pitchers really have good ratings, and I have an extremely strong bullpen, because if not, I would prefer starters that have more stamina not to have such dominant ratings and use both pitchers you mention as relievers, possibly as stoppers.

In my case, unless they are top 1 or 2 starters, I prefer to have starters with this type of ratings:

Stuff between 45 and 55
Movement greater than 55
Control greater than 50
Stamina greater than 55

And that they have 4 or more pitches, these types of pitchers will give you a lot of stability.

[Daniel_09]

Originally Posted by Daniel_09

35 seems too low to me, but 40 is manageable, you can impose a maximum number of pitches as they will not be effective once he is exhausted, you can also set the pitcher NOT to face the lineup for the 3rd time.

I would only make this decision if the pitchers really have good ratings, and I have an extremely strong bullpen, because if not, I would prefer starters that have more stamina not to have such dominant ratings and use both pitchers you mention as relievers, possibly as stoppers.

In my case, unless they are top 1 or 2 starters, I prefer to have starters with this type of ratings:

Stuff between 45 and 55
Movement greater than 55
Control greater than 50
Stamina greater than 55

And that they have 4 or more pitches, these types of pitchers will give you a lot of stability.

And in a modern game (from the first day of simulation) or historical game after several years it is not so difficult to get them through free agency or trades with other teams.

[md40022]

I would say yes. I don't know the ratings of the pitchers you're talking about, but assuming that the ratings check out, if they don't walk guys that stamina rating should get you 5 innings from them as an SP. That would translate to 160 innings on the season, which is probably double what you'd get from them in a relief role..... So my short answer to this would be YES.

A few things I would be conscience of though... I'd make sure they have good control ratings. If the control is shaky and they walk a lot of hitters, all of a sudden pitch counts rise and getting 5 innings out of them becomes far more challenging. If you can't bank on 5 innings from them more often than not, then I would immediately change my answer on this. I'd also make sure the other starters in the rotation had much better stamina ratings just to balance out the beating that your bullpen takes. And lastly, I'd make sure you had at least 1 if not 2 guys in the bullpen who you felt good about going multiple innings on the days that those guys started.

Would also try and stagger them a bit in the starting rotation for it wasn't back to back games where you were putting heavy innings on the bullpen.

[kq76]

I've definitely used guys with 40 stamina as starters and done just fine with them. I just checked and 2 seasons ago 3 of my top 5 SPs had 40 stamina and another had 45. I do the pitching substitutions though so AI might not do as well. I think 35 is the lowest you can go, but I can't remember using a 35 myself.

[Skevich]

What do you guys think of using the one at 35 as an opener and the one with 40 as the follower? I have never used this strategy before (openers/followers) but if I designate them each as such, could that then give me one very good SP that could go the distance?

[Daniel_09]

Originally Posted by Skevich

What do you guys think of using the one at 35 as an opener and the one with 40 as the follower? I have never used this strategy before (openers/followers) but if I designate them each as such, could that then give me one very good SP that could go the distance?

If you have 4 more decent pitchers who can open and a solid bullpen I would do just that.

[md40022]

Originally Posted by Skevich

What do you guys think of using the one at 35 as an opener and the one with 40 as the follower? I have never used this strategy before (openers/followers) but if I designate them each as such, could that then give me one very good SP that could go the distance?

That might be a good way to go actually. 3 or 4 innings out of each of them would give you a real nicely pitched game if they are both that good.

[Daniel_09]

Originally Posted by Skevich

What do you guys think of using the one at 35 as an opener and the one with 40 as the follower? I have never used this strategy before (openers/followers) but if I designate them each as such, could that then give me one very good SP that could go the distance?

But I don't use that opener and follower option (I don't play any of my games) I don't know how effectively the AI handles it.

[Pelican]

I don't use the 20/80 ratings, so hard to translate. But I would not hesitate to start a 50 (out of 100) stamina guy, provided he has good control. The guys with lousy control are going to throw too many pitches, and get tired sooner. If the 50 guys pitches well, he many get 5-6 innings before he tires. I notice that the AI does this all the time, with surprising results.