Historic Expansion Rules Not Applied

Iceman90 · 04-12-2025, 08:59 PM

I am playing a historic game, and I just lost 5 players in the 1992 NHL expansion draft, which is confusing and frusterating. The official rules as per NHL.com are:

Quote:

* The Ottawa Senators and Tampa Bay Lightning each selected a total of 21 players, with a maximum loss per existing club of two players.
* Each existing club was permitted to protect 14 skaters and two goaltenders. Players who did not have more than two years of professional experience were exempt from claim.

It is hard to strategize for the expansion draft when it doesn't follow the historic rules, and the rules aren't visible in the game.

Why aren't the rules being followed? How can I find the rules for the 1993 in game draft so I don't get screwed again?

Iceman90 · 04-13-2025, 06:49 PM

I have run this expansion draft a handful of times now to see if it's just my team losing so many players.

The following teams all lost over 2 players

CGY
MTL
NYI
NJ

And several teams had no players selected:

CHI
DET
NYR
PIT
QUE
WSH

djmacb · 04-13-2025, 09:18 PM

I asked about this in reference to the 1991 Dispersal and Expansion drafts and Jeff indicated he would fix it - see link below. However after the last update I asked if it had been fixed and didn't get a response.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=359639

I ended up using the AI evaluations of the unprotected players to manually simulate the draft by moving players between teams post draft using the player edit function - not optimal, but better than perverting the real life rules.

I'm currently simulating the 91-92 season, so I'd very much like to see this fixed.

Iceman90 · 04-13-2025, 09:59 PM

Thanks for the response. I too just spent 40 minutes manually re-doing the draft. The historical record will show incorrectly, but at least my team, New Jersey and Montreal weren't decimated.

Even if Jeff could fix this, I bet it'd be for new games only.

JeffR · 04-15-2025, 03:08 AM

It was changed to 1 for the 1991 expansion draft in the update. I'll change it to 2 for the 92 expansion.

Iceman90 · 04-15-2025, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JeffR

It was changed to 1 for the 1991 expansion draft in the update. I'll change it to 2 for the 92 expansion.

Please make sure you update the 93 draft as well.

JeffR · 04-21-2025, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceman90

Please make sure you update the 93 draft as well.

I did.

04-13-2025, 06:49 PM	#2
Iceman90 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 185	I have run this expansion draft a handful of times now to see if it's just my team losing so many players. The following teams all lost over 2 players CGY MTL NYI NJ And several teams had no players selected: CHI DET NYR PIT QUE WSH Last edited by Iceman90; 04-14-2025 at 02:04 PM.

04-13-2025, 09:59 PM	#4
Iceman90 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 185	Thanks for the response. I too just spent 40 minutes manually re-doing the draft. The historical record will show incorrectly, but at least my team, New Jersey and Montreal weren't decimated. Even if Jeff could fix this, I bet it'd be for new games only. Last edited by Iceman90; 04-14-2025 at 12:40 AM.

04-13-2025, 09:18 PM	#3
djmacb Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2023 Posts: 29	I asked about this in reference to the 1991 Dispersal and Expansion drafts and Jeff indicated he would fix it - see link below. However after the last update I asked if it had been fixed and didn't get a response. https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=359639 I ended up using the AI evaluations of the unprotected players to manually simulate the draft by moving players between teams post draft using the player edit function - not optimal, but better than perverting the real life rules. I'm currently simulating the 91-92 season, so I'd very much like to see this fixed.

04-15-2025, 03:08 AM	#5
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,242	It was changed to 1 for the 1991 expansion draft in the update. I'll change it to 2 for the 92 expansion.