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Westheim · 09-04-2021, 04:05 PM

9-0 to 9-7. There is no easy game with this team...

Westheim · 09-04-2021, 04:17 PM

(is numb)

Amazin69 · 09-05-2021, 09:04 AM

Oh, no, they didn't just blow 7-0 (the score I saw on the ticker during Stanford-Kansas State)…they blew 9-0. That's just embarrassing. (More great work from Castro, I see.)

At least they won in "extra" innings. When a "game" is tied after 7, do they start the pop-up baserunner bullshyt in the 8th? Wouldn't want a game to last 9 innings, I guess…

And then they lost the 2nd game, anyhow. Choke-choke-choke-ch-ch-choke.

BBGiovanni · 09-05-2021, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

(is numb)

And yet they won! Then lost, closing the books on what simply must be the ugliest 7 game winning streak in baseball history.

More importantly, replacing Nimmo with Almora and/or Pillar the rest of the way should be the final hole in the hull here.

On the positive side, Mazeika has been way better than anyone thought. He was a novelty with the walkoff bloops early on, but he looks like an OK catcher (by Mets standards) and he's much less of a give-up AB than Nido.

Westheim · 09-05-2021, 01:53 PM

Keith Hernandez making a case for 20 wins making you the Cy Young. That's gonna be no worse a spectacle than Taijuan Walker's fireworks performance.

Amazin69 · 09-06-2021, 02:07 PM

So…Stroman is the only one who hasn't had the first batter of the game take him over the wall recently? Carrasco's done it multiple times, Hill did it, Megill did it Saturday and now Walker.

Maybe our guys need to warm up a little more in the bullpen before they start. Just a thought.

Fortunately our bats are hot. Or the Gnats just suck, one or another. So we can survive blowing leads of 4-0 and 6-3, not to mention The Finger's baserunning.

"it's important for [Baez] to go to third base [with two out], because he can score from there on a base hit. Of course, he can also score from second on a hit. So basically, he needs to go from second to third like Frank Howard needs more muscles." —Jim Bouton, Ball Four

Westheim · 09-06-2021, 02:25 PM

The animated spagetti monster in the blue shirt could not get a ball past my grandmother.

Although she's 91 and on 21 pills a day, so she's probably barely legal...

Westheim · 09-06-2021, 04:28 PM

Jarred Kelenic ... let me see... .156 with 8 homers in 250 at-bats... -2.0 WAR ...

Still better than the crap the Mets got.

Magus978 · 09-06-2021, 04:53 PM

The only thing Edwin Diaz and the rest of the Mets are elite at is failure.

Get that bum Rojas his pink slip and everyone else go home for the winter and think about how much time you've wasted teasing us this season.

Amazin69 · 09-06-2021, 11:06 PM

What Gary Cohen said: "The Mets have a rested Edwin Diaz…"
What I heard: "The Mets have arrested Edwin Diaz…"

Confirmation bias? Perhaps. But I like my version better.

Gary, in arguing for pulling Trevor Williams after five innings (which i agreed with; he'd been in too many jams): "He's thrown 92 pitches in five innings"

OMG, Rojas, you…monster! How could you stress the Poor Widdle Baby that way??

(I love Gary, but…he really pushes bilge like this too often. Like the fairy story about how throwing 135 pitches in the no-hitter destroyed Johan Santana's career. Actually, Johan was fine for his next 4 or 5 starts…until he got spiked by Reed Johnson while covering 1B in Chicago. He tried to rush back from that, messed up his delivery, messed up his arm and THAT was all she wrote.

But it doesn't make an "instructive story" the way that "OMG! 135 pitches!" does. Sigh.)

BBGiovanni · 09-07-2021, 06:05 PM

Good news, Jake's arm problem was a partial UCL tear but hey, all better now! Thanks for all the info guys, good job pitching him repeatedly through it in June-July.

Westheim · 09-08-2021, 06:21 AM

Cheers to Pete for hitting career bomb #100 (and #101 too!) against the smelly Fish.

Such a good boy!

One day he'll be on a team that deserves him.

BBGiovanni · 09-09-2021, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

Cheers to Pete for hitting career bomb #100 (and #101 too!) against the smelly Fish.

Such a good boy!

One day he'll be on a team that deserves him.

I've had this thought every time I've read or conversed about the various holes they have to fix, from Alderson's office down. I think I'd take out a notepad, write "Keep" at the top, and Pete's name underneath, and then have very very uncomfortable conversations with everyone else in the org. I'm not sure the guy watching the gate in the parking lot should stay (although he probably works for Aramark anyway and they seem to do a good job at Citi even though they signed a contract with the Mets).

Magus978 · 09-09-2021, 09:56 PM

I think it's now past time to blow it up. You're not winning anything with these players, this manager, and this front office. You're stuck with Lindor, but everyone else shouldn't be safe.

Full-on franchise reset required this offseason. Let's see if Uncle Stevie has the guts to act.

Déjà Bru · 09-09-2021, 10:56 PM

Hey fellas! Get a piece of the crappy Yankees while they are hot! (That is, cold, having reverted to what they really are, which is bad.) You should be looking for a three-game sweep this weekend.

BBGiovanni · 09-10-2021, 08:45 AM

It's almost impossible to not score a run after a leadoff triple. But the Mets did it! I think the pitchers/batters combined WPA was -50%, which also seems unpossible. One for the ages!

BMW · 09-10-2021, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BBGiovanni

It's almost impossible to not score a run after a leadoff triple. But the Mets did it! I think the pitchers/batters combined WPA was -50%, which also seems unpossible. One for the ages!

As a Mets fan, after a leadoff triple I almost expect them to not score.

Amazin69 · 09-10-2021, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Hey fellas! Get a piece of the crappy Yankees while they are hot! (That is, cold, having reverted to what they really are, which is bad.) You should be looking for a three-game sweep this weekend.

You're kidding, right? The Yanks could sweep this bunch using call-ups from AAA. Maybe AA.

Mets lose 3 of 4 to WAS and MIA, finish road trip at 4-4. Against two teams that are each 20+ games below .500. So much for the "easy" schedule.

Wednesday, Rojas won't use J.D. Davis as a pinch-hitter against Anthony Bender, because Bender is SO TOUGH on RHB.

Thursday, Rojas lets Davis face Bender, even though he has 2 LHB and a SH on the bench. Way to go, Boy Blunder!

Rojas probably only regrets not getting Edlose Diaz in to pitch the 8th.

BBGiovanni · 09-10-2021, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by BMW

As a Mets fan, after a leadoff triple I almost expect them to not score.

If you didn't watch the Mets playthrough last year OOTP did... Gus, who played along with Rich Grisham, once said after a depressing inning "The six most common words in the English language are 'Mets threaten but fail to score'".

Westheim · 09-10-2021, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMW

As a Mets fan, after a leadoff triple I almost expect them to not score.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Westheim

Cheers to Pete for hitting [a leadoff triple] against the smelly Fish.

Such a good boy!

One day he'll be on a team that deserves him.

...

09-04-2021, 04:05 PM	#1201
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 12,931	9-0 to 9-7. There is no easy game with this team... __________________ Portland Raccoons, 89 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

09-04-2021, 04:17 PM	#1202
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 12,931	(is numb) __________________ Portland Raccoons, 89 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

09-05-2021, 01:53 PM	#1205
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 12,931	Keith Hernandez making a case for 20 wins making you the Cy Young. That's gonna be no worse a spectacle than Taijuan Walker's fireworks performance. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 89 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

09-06-2021, 02:25 PM	#1207
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 12,931	The animated spagetti monster in the blue shirt could not get a ball past my grandmother. Although she's 91 and on 21 pills a day, so she's probably barely legal... __________________ Portland Raccoons, 89 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

09-06-2021, 04:28 PM	#1208
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 12,931	Jarred Kelenic ... let me see... .156 with 8 homers in 250 at-bats... -2.0 WAR ... Still better than the crap the Mets got. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 89 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

09-05-2021, 09:04 AM	#1203
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,445 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Oh, no, they didn't just blow 7-0 (the score I saw on the ticker during Stanford-Kansas State)…they blew 9-0. That's just embarrassing. (More great work from Castro, I see.) At least they won in "extra" innings. When a "game" is tied after 7, do they start the pop-up baserunner bullshyt in the 8th? Wouldn't want a game to last 9 innings, I guess… And then they lost the 2nd game, anyhow. Choke-choke-choke-ch-ch-choke.

09-06-2021, 02:07 PM	#1206
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,445 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	So…Stroman is the only one who hasn't had the first batter of the game take him over the wall recently? Carrasco's done it multiple times, Hill did it, Megill did it Saturday and now Walker. Maybe our guys need to warm up a little more in the bullpen before they start. Just a thought. Fortunately our bats are hot. Or the Gnats just suck, one or another. So we can survive blowing leads of 4-0 and 6-3, not to mention The Finger's baserunning. "it's important for [Baez] to go to third base [with two out], because he can score from there on a base hit. Of course, he can also score from second on a hit. So basically, he needs to go from second to third like Frank Howard needs more muscles." —Jim Bouton, Ball Four

09-06-2021, 04:53 PM	#1209
Magus978 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind you. BOO! Posts: 1,894	The only thing Edwin Diaz and the rest of the Mets are elite at is failure. Get that bum Rojas his pink slip and everyone else go home for the winter and think about how much time you've wasted teasing us this season. __________________ Never forgive, never forget. http://twitch.tv/GanbaMagus

09-06-2021, 11:06 PM	#1210
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,445 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	What Gary Cohen said: "The Mets have a rested Edwin Diaz…" What I heard: "The Mets have arrested Edwin Diaz…" Confirmation bias? Perhaps. But I like my version better. Gary, in arguing for pulling Trevor Williams after five innings (which i agreed with; he'd been in too many jams): "He's thrown 92 pitches in five innings" OMG, Rojas, you…monster! How could you stress the Poor Widdle Baby that way?? (I love Gary, but…he really pushes bilge like this too often. Like the fairy story about how throwing 135 pitches in the no-hitter destroyed Johan Santana's career. Actually, Johan was fine for his next 4 or 5 starts…until he got spiked by Reed Johnson while covering 1B in Chicago. He tried to rush back from that, messed up his delivery, messed up his arm and THAT was all she wrote. But it doesn't make an "instructive story" the way that "OMG! 135 pitches!" does. Sigh.)

09-07-2021, 06:05 PM	#1211
BBGiovanni All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Republic of California Posts: 1,852	Good news, Jake's arm problem was a partial UCL tear but hey, all better now! Thanks for all the info guys, good job pitching him repeatedly through it in June-July. __________________ Let's Go (San Jose) Giants, Let's Go Mets! Current Project: WBAT/AABBA: Organized Base Ball And the "New Normal" World Baseball Aid Tournament 2023 trophy round underway!

09-08-2021, 06:21 AM	#1212
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 12,931	Cheers to Pete for hitting career bomb #100 (and #101 too!) against the smelly Fish. Such a good boy! One day he'll be on a team that deserves him. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 89 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

09-09-2021, 09:56 PM	#1214
Magus978 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind you. BOO! Posts: 1,894	I think it's now past time to blow it up. You're not winning anything with these players, this manager, and this front office. You're stuck with Lindor, but everyone else shouldn't be safe. Full-on franchise reset required this offseason. Let's see if Uncle Stevie has the guts to act. __________________ Never forgive, never forget. http://twitch.tv/GanbaMagus Last edited by Magus978; 09-09-2021 at 10:01 PM.

09-09-2021, 10:56 PM	#1215
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 10,951	Hey fellas! Get a piece of the crappy Yankees while they are hot! (That is, cold, having reverted to what they really are, which is bad.) You should be looking for a three-game sweep this weekend. __________________ - Bru

09-10-2021, 08:45 AM	#1216
BBGiovanni All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Republic of California Posts: 1,852	It's almost impossible to not score a run after a leadoff triple. But the Mets did it! I think the pitchers/batters combined WPA was -50%, which also seems unpossible. One for the ages! __________________ Let's Go (San Jose) Giants, Let's Go Mets! Current Project: WBAT/AABBA: Organized Base Ball And the "New Normal" World Baseball Aid Tournament 2023 trophy round underway!