Some Jazz-Age Ballparks - Page 7

RMc · 01-29-2022, 11:28 AM

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Here is the Youtube video of my Belles facing the Peaches at asrivkin's Beyer Stadium: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51iQ...el=kcstengelsr

That's...not what girls look like...

Good job, tho.

asrivkin · 02-06-2022, 08:56 PM

Hi all. Happy New Year!

I've spend the last month actually playing OOTP! Maybe I'll actually post in one of the other forums and talk about it.

I've also made a few more parks for the league I'm doing, though I think they're mostly of limited interest beyond that (not that that's stopped me before). I'll probably post 1-2 of them anyhow.

Of more broad interest, though, I also just finished Bendix Field, home of the AAGPBL South Bend Blue Sox from 1943-1945:

Google Drive link to Bendix Field

As with the other AAGPBL parks, there are a few anachronisms/inaccuracies. OOTP requires 90 feet between bases, while it was never 90 feet between bases in the AAGPBL, for instance. I also didn't get any images of the grandstand, and in fact I'm not even sure it is a grandstand rather than roofless. There are a few more images from their next park, Playland Park where they played starting in 1946.

Next for the AAGPBL will be the park in Kenosha. And as noted, I'll post a few others.

As usual, let me know if there are problems and I'll try and fix them!

kcstengelsr · 02-07-2022, 09:02 AM

What a nice surprise is Bendix Field in South Bend, Indiana. I can now assign the park to the Blue Sox in my 1943 AAGPBL and with the park in Kenosha someday coming by asrivkin the complete set of the four 1943 AAGPBL ballparks will be available.

Using my actual real players based upon the 1943 statistics, txranger's uniforms, my version of their tinted photos, and my custom sounds and camera angles I playtested a game at Bendix Field with the 1943 Blue Sox hosting the Rockford Peaches. I placed it on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Wv...el=kcstengelsr

I am once again doing a simulation of the 1943 AAGPBL season and going into this August game South Bend is in second place while Rockford sits at third in the four team league. The statistics shown in the game reflect how my rated players are doing with a bit more than a month remaining in the 108 game regular season schedule.

Note: if you are interested in the 1943 AAGPBL, check out page six here at asrivkin's Jazz Age page where I provided working links to download the 1943 AAGPBL .lg file, tinted player photos of the ladies in the league that season, and custom sounds appropriate for 1943. I tested those Mediafire links just today and they still work--they are absolutely free for your use.

asrivkin · 02-20-2022, 09:44 AM

Hi all.

As I mentioned before, I've polished off a few fields since the start of the year but haven't posted them (yet?). I think this one could be of more general interest, though, so here you go:

Maier Park c. 1918, home of the PCL Vernon Tigers

One of the things I've enjoyed about making these parks is that I learn all sorts of neat history about places during the research and preparation phase. The history of Vernon in particular as a tiny independent enclave of drinking and carousing (and as an industrial dystopia) inside of an alcohol-free Los Angeles was one I never knew or suspected.

Anyhow, the Vernon Tigers were LA's second team in the PCL from 1909-1925, save for a couple of years when they were based in Venice (which was the only other place in the LA area that allowed legal alcohol sales). This park was used for Tigers baseball on most days, with the team sharing the Angels' park on Sunday.

If you're interested in more detailed history of the team, especially around 1919-1920, I'll point you to this article at the official site of Minor League Baseball as a start.

There's not a lot of photo documentation of the park, but I used what I could. There was an old insurance map. This is another of those situations where they stuck a park in-between a bunch of factories so the view isn't as pretty as it could be, but if the game drags on you can always head to Doyle's bar (the longest in the world, I'm told!) via a special entrance in left field!

kcstengelsr · 02-22-2022, 07:07 AM

Thanks a lot for historic Maier Park in Vernon, California. Everyone interested in the Pacific Coast League and historic old ballparks should download this beautiful effort.

The 1909-1925 PCL Vernon Tigers had an interesting history. I understand that in the greater Los Angeles area of the time only Venice, California and Vernon, California permitted the sale and consumption of alcohol. The Tigers did briefly try playing in Venice but the team struggled in Venice at the gate. Moving to Vernon seemed to do the trick for attracting fans.

For a brief time until 1920 the Tigers were owned by famous silent screen actor Fatty Arbuckle and they were informally then known as the Hollywood Stars. I understand that ballgames in Vernon were a popular pastime for the movie star community but then nationwide Prohibition began in 1920. Arbuckle sold his interest and the Tigers with Prohibition struggled. Starting in 1926 this PCL franchise played in the San Francisco area as the Mission Reds. The franchise returned to the Los Angeles area in 1938 and become known as the Hollywood Stars. The PCL had the Hollywood Stars in the league through 1957, the last year before the Dodgers arrived. (Footnote: the Salt Lake City team moved to Los Angeles starting in 1926 as the original Hollywood Stars but they moved to San Diego to become the Padres in 1936).

I had fun playtesting this ballpark, but I kind of wish that I had a Vernon Tigers team prior to Prohibition so that I could add for example beer vendors in my custom sounds folder for Maier. I did already have the 1925 season downloaded and I had already added Txranger's PCL uniforms. I had the Vernon Tigers playing in Washington Park (by asrivkin) and the Tigers did play there on Sundays (I guess one could not buy alcohol prior to Prohibition on Sundays even in Vernon). The Tigers mostly played home games in Maier Park and since asrivkin has made the ballpark for our community I manually added Maier as the place for the 1925 Tigers. I added custom sounds to Maier Park and playtested a game and placed it on YouTube.

See for yourself how Maier looks and plays. Here is a game set in the 1925 PCL with the Vernon Tigers hosting the Seattle Indians on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hh0...el=kcstengelsr

As a personal note, I kind of wonder if the PCL prior to Prohibition sometimes was known for rowdy crowds. Imagine going to Maier Park with that huge bar area. Imagine Recreation Park in San Francisco (also by asrivkin) with its own booze cage area.

Ty Cobb · 02-22-2022, 08:59 AM

More fine work! The hsitroical share is a gold mine as well. Thank you.

asrivkin · 03-13-2022, 05:00 PM

Next up is the home of the OG Toronto Maple Leafs from 1910-1925: Hanlan's Point Stadium (aka Maple Leaf Park).

Google Drive Link to Hanlan's Point Stadium

This was the third park on this spot in the Toronto Islands, with the first two succumbing to fire. The park was on the grounds of an amusement park, as was the style with many other parks of the era, and some of the pictures show a roller coaster hugging the outfield wall. The park was the location of Babe Ruth's first professional home run, no doubt helped by the short RF fence (about which, more below). I added the roller coaster, the carousel, the "Circle Swing", and the skyline from the right period.

This was a more difficult park to make than usual, suffering from the paradoxical situation of having too much information available but not the right information or consistent information. With three similar but not identical parks built in the same place within a 15-year span, it wasn't always obvious what photos/maps went with what era, and an insurance map gave dimensions that were clearly bananas. Working from aerial and in-park photos was difficult because the surrounding amusement park would also change its appearance (including the roller coasters) and removed context clues. In the end I went with something more or less consistent with the evidence but that probably doesn't match any of it. The RF distance is 270 feet--short, but no shorter than the Polo Grounds. The LF distance is 375 feet, and left center is well over 500 feet--this is murder on righty pull hitters.

In any case, there are various histories available if you're interested, including a Wikipedia article and an archived web page on old Toronto amusement parks that includes some discussion.

Next up, I'm going to try to get ready for some barnstormers by tackling Rochester and Columbus, but I also have a few requests I'll try and get to!

asrivkin · 03-14-2022, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by asrivkin

Next up is the home of the OG Toronto Maple Leafs from 1910-1925: Hanlan's Point Stadium (aka Maple Leaf Park).

Google Drive Link to Hanlan's Point Stadium

Quick note--I see that I didn't include the animated crowd in the version of the park I posted above. I've fixed that, here's the new link in case you don't want to/can't make the fix to that problem:

New Google Drive Link to Hanlan's Point Stadium

dishnet34 · 03-14-2022, 04:04 PM

That's a wonderful park right there! I'll definitely be downloading this one!

kcstengelsr · 03-14-2022, 05:40 PM

Oh boy, Hanlan's Park in Toronto is a real jewel and it is lots of fun playing a game there with plenty of interesting features.

I decided to play the 1920 Detroit Tigers with Ty Cobb hosting the 1920 New York Yankees with Babe Ruth. Imagine the in that first year of Prohibition that the Tigers moved some games across the border where beer was legal. I have the result on YouTube and you can see for yourself what Hanlan's looks like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Mf...el=kcstengelsr

Thanks to asrivkin for this beauty. Period uniforms are by silvam14. Facegens by fancyskunk. I added custom sounds from my Mods/Sounds/Early to Hanlan's and made sure that a beer vendor was included. I also made a number of custom camera angles including one from on top of the rollercoaster beyond centerfield which was used once in this YouTube game.

I highly recommend downloading asrivkin's Hanlan's Park!

asrivkin · 05-17-2022, 07:44 PM

OK, after some time off for vacation and actually playing the game, I've got a few more things to post! First up is Simmons Field, which hosted the Kenosha Comets from 1948-1951. Unfortunately, the Comets' first field, Lakefront Stadium, has very little information available, which discouraged me from trying to model it.

Simmons Field, on the other hand, still exists and still hosts baseball. It's been renovated since the Comets' days, but there was a lot more to work with!

Google Drive link to Simmons Field

This gives home parks for all of the teams in the AAGPBL in its first two seasons, though as noted not all of the home parks are the ones used in 1943-1944. Next up for the AAGPBL will be Fort Wayne and Grand Rapids, though it might not be for a little while...

kcstengelsr · 05-18-2022, 10:08 AM

Asrivkin has achieved another milestone. First, he filled in some gaps for Pacific Coast League ballparks and if someone downloads asrivkin's, silvam14's, and eriqjaffe's combined contributions one can play in all of the classic mid-1940's PCL parks. Second, he filled in other gaps for Negro Leagues ballparks and if one downloads asrivkin's and silvam14's combined efforts one can find a home ballpark for all the the Negro Leagues teams for the years 1945-1947. And now with Simmons Field in Kenosha all four of the teams in the 1943 All American Girl's Professional Baseball League have "a ballpark of their own."

I placed on YouTube a 1943 AAGPBL game with the South Bend Blue Sox going to Simmons Field to play the Kenosha Comets, complete with my (ahem) custom 1943 AAGPBL pants and shoes. Here it is and you can read more about what I did at Simmons Field in the YouTube description:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K99...el=kcstengelsr

Thanks again asrivkin.

dishnet34 · 05-24-2022, 09:23 PM

I just tried the Drive link to Hanlan's Point, and it gave an error. Could it be re-uploaded possibly, please?

asrivkin · 05-26-2022, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dishnet34

I just tried the Drive link to Hanlan's Point, and it gave an error. Could it be re-uploaded possibly, please?

Hmm. The link in post 128 seems to work for me, it superseded the link in post 127. Here it is again:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ISV...ew?usp=sharing

If this still doesn't work let me know and maybe we can come up with a work around if need be...

dishnet34 · 05-26-2022, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by asrivkin

Hmm. The link in post 128 seems to work for me, it superseded the link in post 127. Here it is again:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ISV...ew?usp=sharing

If this still doesn't work let me know and maybe we can come up with a work around if need be...

There we go, that works! Thanks!

asrivkin · 06-11-2022, 06:37 PM

It's past time to post a few more parks that I've made over the past few months.

First up is Kinsley Park, Providence's home of baseball for...a bit of an indeterminate period. It is most famous for hosting the first night game in NFL history in 1929. It was built sometime in the early 1920s, after the Providence Grays left Melrose Park. It served as the site for barnstorming games--Babe Ruth didn't play here in the minors but did play here with Gehrig on their 1927 tour. It also apparently hosted a lot of soccer in the 1920s.

There is almost no information about this park online. What I'm posting, besides a screenshot of the behind-home view within OOTP, is a snippet of a Providence atlas from the 1920s and a closeup from an early aerial view that happened to catch the park near the edge of the frame.

Google Drive link to Kinsley Park

I've used it a few times, so it should be playable. I believe I set the crowd to be animated. The dimensions are guesses based on the map and aerial and a typical backstop distance. The interior is artistic license but should at least be period appropriate.

kcstengelsr · 06-12-2022, 05:03 PM

I placed on YouTube a game using asrivkin's new historical Kinsley Park. I chose to do an exhibition game set in 1930 between the Boston Red Sox and the Boston Braves.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST05...el=kcstengelsr

Thank you asrivkin for this fine historical ballpark!

asrivkin · 06-26-2022, 10:09 AM

I keep planning to post some more old parks and keep getting distracted. Let's see if I can pick up the pace a bit--I have Eclipse Park in Louisville (the minor league one, not any of the major league ones) and Neil Park in Columbus done, but earlier in the week I decided to take on another park from the early days of the Negro Leagues: Hilldale Park in Darby, PA.

Google Drive link to Hilldale Park

The Hilldale club used the park into the early 30s, but at least the field itself seems to have survived much longer--the overhead aerial photo below is from 1953, the oblique one is from the mid-20s. The field position relative to the grandstand is uncentered. I'll say I knowingly modeled it that way given what I could make out from pictures and maps. Sources say the big tree in right center field was in play, I tried to make the grid reflect that out there, but you might want to adjust it depending on what you need. Finally, while I usually try to put period and location appropriate ads on the walls, this seemed like it was pretty spartan (maybe because it was next to a cemetery?) so I left the walls blank.

Enjoy!

kcstengelsr · 06-28-2022, 07:22 PM

Thank you asrivkin for Hilldale Park in Darby, Pennsylvania west of Philadelphia. The Hilldale Club (informally known as the Darby Daises) were in a number of Negro Leagues now considered major league quality. Having a home park for Hilldale Club is good to have as many historic parks for Negro Leagues teams are yet to be created for OOTP.

One problem with OOTP23 which I hope eventually is fixed in OOTP24 is the fact that some major league quality Negro Leagues are missing for some years. For examples if one starts a 1928 season with Negro Leagues and minor leagues included you will not find the 1928 Hilldale Club of the Eastern Colored League and if one starts a 1929 season you will not find the 1929 Hilldale Club of the American Negro League. One will find the Hilldale Club if one starts a 1932 season as the complete 1932 East West League is included along with the extra Pittsburgh Crawfords.

When one gets a Negro Leagues going in OOTP you usually have to make some manual roster changes. I like to use Seamheads as my NeL source and I set up the starting lineups for the 1932 Hilldale Club and the 1932 Detroit Wolves. I played these two in a game using asrivkin's new Hilldale Park which you may watch on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYo...el=kcstengelsr

The YouTube description of the game has more details about what was involved in setting up this Negro Leagues game.

One thing about the 1932 East West League that I learned recently is the fact that the park of the 1932 Detroit Wolves still exists and is being somewhat restored as a playable historic site:

https://www.mlb.com/news/historic-ne...SFN8fufw6HgJsU

Thanks for what you do for us, asrivkin!

asrivkin · 06-29-2022, 10:16 AM

Thank you, kcstengelsr, I appreciate it.

As I noted, I've got a few more older parks to post, I just need work to back off a little bit.

And I've seen the great news about Hamtramck Park--I've been kicking around whether to do it as my next Negro League effort, or try to dig up enough information to do Mack Park (or Greenlee Stadium, among others). I know there's a request for Red Wing Stadium, too...

02-06-2022, 08:56 PM	#122
asrivkin Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Maryland Posts: 294	Bendix Field, South Bend Hi all. Happy New Year! I've spend the last month actually playing OOTP! Maybe I'll actually post in one of the other forums and talk about it. I've also made a few more parks for the league I'm doing, though I think they're mostly of limited interest beyond that (not that that's stopped me before). I'll probably post 1-2 of them anyhow. Of more broad interest, though, I also just finished Bendix Field, home of the AAGPBL South Bend Blue Sox from 1943-1945: Google Drive link to Bendix Field As with the other AAGPBL parks, there are a few anachronisms/inaccuracies. OOTP requires 90 feet between bases, while it was never 90 feet between bases in the AAGPBL, for instance. I also didn't get any images of the grandstand, and in fact I'm not even sure it is a grandstand rather than roofless. There are a few more images from their next park, Playland Park where they played starting in 1946. Next for the AAGPBL will be the park in Kenosha. And as noted, I'll post a few others. As usual, let me know if there are problems and I'll try and fix them! Attached Images

02-07-2022, 09:02 AM	#123
kcstengelsr Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 147	What a nice surprise is Bendix Field in South Bend, Indiana. I can now assign the park to the Blue Sox in my 1943 AAGPBL and with the park in Kenosha someday coming by asrivkin the complete set of the four 1943 AAGPBL ballparks will be available. Using my actual real players based upon the 1943 statistics, txranger's uniforms, my version of their tinted photos, and my custom sounds and camera angles I playtested a game at Bendix Field with the 1943 Blue Sox hosting the Rockford Peaches. I placed it on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-Wv...el=kcstengelsr I am once again doing a simulation of the 1943 AAGPBL season and going into this August game South Bend is in second place while Rockford sits at third in the four team league. The statistics shown in the game reflect how my rated players are doing with a bit more than a month remaining in the 108 game regular season schedule. Note: if you are interested in the 1943 AAGPBL, check out page six here at asrivkin's Jazz Age page where I provided working links to download the 1943 AAGPBL .lg file, tinted player photos of the ladies in the league that season, and custom sounds appropriate for 1943. I tested those Mediafire links just today and they still work--they are absolutely free for your use. Last edited by kcstengelsr; 02-07-2022 at 09:04 AM.

02-20-2022, 09:44 AM	#124
asrivkin Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Maryland Posts: 294	Maier Park, Vernon Hi all. As I mentioned before, I've polished off a few fields since the start of the year but haven't posted them (yet?). I think this one could be of more general interest, though, so here you go: Maier Park c. 1918, home of the PCL Vernon Tigers One of the things I've enjoyed about making these parks is that I learn all sorts of neat history about places during the research and preparation phase. The history of Vernon in particular as a tiny independent enclave of drinking and carousing (and as an industrial dystopia) inside of an alcohol-free Los Angeles was one I never knew or suspected. Anyhow, the Vernon Tigers were LA's second team in the PCL from 1909-1925, save for a couple of years when they were based in Venice (which was the only other place in the LA area that allowed legal alcohol sales). This park was used for Tigers baseball on most days, with the team sharing the Angels' park on Sunday. If you're interested in more detailed history of the team, especially around 1919-1920, I'll point you to this article at the official site of Minor League Baseball as a start. There's not a lot of photo documentation of the park, but I used what I could. There was an old insurance map. This is another of those situations where they stuck a park in-between a bunch of factories so the view isn't as pretty as it could be, but if the game drags on you can always head to Doyle's bar (the longest in the world, I'm told!) via a special entrance in left field! Attached Images

02-22-2022, 07:07 AM	#125
kcstengelsr Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 147	Thanks a lot for historic Maier Park in Vernon, California. Everyone interested in the Pacific Coast League and historic old ballparks should download this beautiful effort. The 1909-1925 PCL Vernon Tigers had an interesting history. I understand that in the greater Los Angeles area of the time only Venice, California and Vernon, California permitted the sale and consumption of alcohol. The Tigers did briefly try playing in Venice but the team struggled in Venice at the gate. Moving to Vernon seemed to do the trick for attracting fans. For a brief time until 1920 the Tigers were owned by famous silent screen actor Fatty Arbuckle and they were informally then known as the Hollywood Stars. I understand that ballgames in Vernon were a popular pastime for the movie star community but then nationwide Prohibition began in 1920. Arbuckle sold his interest and the Tigers with Prohibition struggled. Starting in 1926 this PCL franchise played in the San Francisco area as the Mission Reds. The franchise returned to the Los Angeles area in 1938 and become known as the Hollywood Stars. The PCL had the Hollywood Stars in the league through 1957, the last year before the Dodgers arrived. (Footnote: the Salt Lake City team moved to Los Angeles starting in 1926 as the original Hollywood Stars but they moved to San Diego to become the Padres in 1936). I had fun playtesting this ballpark, but I kind of wish that I had a Vernon Tigers team prior to Prohibition so that I could add for example beer vendors in my custom sounds folder for Maier. I did already have the 1925 season downloaded and I had already added Txranger's PCL uniforms. I had the Vernon Tigers playing in Washington Park (by asrivkin) and the Tigers did play there on Sundays (I guess one could not buy alcohol prior to Prohibition on Sundays even in Vernon). The Tigers mostly played home games in Maier Park and since asrivkin has made the ballpark for our community I manually added Maier as the place for the 1925 Tigers. I added custom sounds to Maier Park and playtested a game and placed it on YouTube. See for yourself how Maier looks and plays. Here is a game set in the 1925 PCL with the Vernon Tigers hosting the Seattle Indians on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Hh0...el=kcstengelsr As a personal note, I kind of wonder if the PCL prior to Prohibition sometimes was known for rowdy crowds. Imagine going to Maier Park with that huge bar area. Imagine Recreation Park in San Francisco (also by asrivkin) with its own booze cage area. Last edited by kcstengelsr; 02-24-2022 at 07:04 AM.

02-22-2022, 08:59 AM	#126
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 4,551 Blog Entries: 123	More fine work! The hsitroical share is a gold mine as well. Thank you. __________________ "You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me." Thanos

03-13-2022, 05:00 PM	#127
asrivkin Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Maryland Posts: 294	Hanlan's Point Stadium, Toronto Next up is the home of the OG Toronto Maple Leafs from 1910-1925: Hanlan's Point Stadium (aka Maple Leaf Park). Google Drive Link to Hanlan's Point Stadium This was the third park on this spot in the Toronto Islands, with the first two succumbing to fire. The park was on the grounds of an amusement park, as was the style with many other parks of the era, and some of the pictures show a roller coaster hugging the outfield wall. The park was the location of Babe Ruth's first professional home run, no doubt helped by the short RF fence (about which, more below). I added the roller coaster, the carousel, the "Circle Swing", and the skyline from the right period. This was a more difficult park to make than usual, suffering from the paradoxical situation of having too much information available but not the right information or consistent information. With three similar but not identical parks built in the same place within a 15-year span, it wasn't always obvious what photos/maps went with what era, and an insurance map gave dimensions that were clearly bananas. Working from aerial and in-park photos was difficult because the surrounding amusement park would also change its appearance (including the roller coasters) and removed context clues. In the end I went with something more or less consistent with the evidence but that probably doesn't match any of it. The RF distance is 270 feet--short, but no shorter than the Polo Grounds. The LF distance is 375 feet, and left center is well over 500 feet--this is murder on righty pull hitters. In any case, there are various histories available if you're interested, including a Wikipedia article and an archived web page on old Toronto amusement parks that includes some discussion. Next up, I'm going to try to get ready for some barnstormers by tackling Rochester and Columbus, but I also have a few requests I'll try and get to! Attached Images

03-14-2022, 04:04 PM	#129
dishnet34 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,434	That's a wonderful park right there! I'll definitely be downloading this one! __________________ OOTP's Official Perfect Team Hype Man / host of TWIPT Saturday Showdown and Perfect League World Series "Find a way to be alone in a baseball stadium at sunrise, when the only sound you hear are about nine birds that got lost, and found themselves in a stadium, and they’re chirping across the grandstand trying to figure out where the f*** they ended up." -Dan Besbris

03-14-2022, 05:40 PM	#130
kcstengelsr Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 147	Oh boy, Hanlan's Park in Toronto is a real jewel and it is lots of fun playing a game there with plenty of interesting features. I decided to play the 1920 Detroit Tigers with Ty Cobb hosting the 1920 New York Yankees with Babe Ruth. Imagine the in that first year of Prohibition that the Tigers moved some games across the border where beer was legal. I have the result on YouTube and you can see for yourself what Hanlan's looks like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9Mf...el=kcstengelsr Thanks to asrivkin for this beauty. Period uniforms are by silvam14. Facegens by fancyskunk. I added custom sounds from my Mods/Sounds/Early to Hanlan's and made sure that a beer vendor was included. I also made a number of custom camera angles including one from on top of the rollercoaster beyond centerfield which was used once in this YouTube game. I highly recommend downloading asrivkin's Hanlan's Park! Last edited by kcstengelsr; 03-15-2022 at 05:18 AM.

05-17-2022, 07:44 PM	#131
asrivkin Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Maryland Posts: 294	Simmons Field--Home of the AAGPBL Kenosha Comets OK, after some time off for vacation and actually playing the game, I've got a few more things to post! First up is Simmons Field, which hosted the Kenosha Comets from 1948-1951. Unfortunately, the Comets' first field, Lakefront Stadium, has very little information available, which discouraged me from trying to model it. Simmons Field, on the other hand, still exists and still hosts baseball. It's been renovated since the Comets' days, but there was a lot more to work with! Google Drive link to Simmons Field This gives home parks for all of the teams in the AAGPBL in its first two seasons, though as noted not all of the home parks are the ones used in 1943-1944. Next up for the AAGPBL will be Fort Wayne and Grand Rapids, though it might not be for a little while... Attached Images

05-18-2022, 10:08 AM	#132
kcstengelsr Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 147	Asrivkin has achieved another milestone. First, he filled in some gaps for Pacific Coast League ballparks and if someone downloads asrivkin's, silvam14's, and eriqjaffe's combined contributions one can play in all of the classic mid-1940's PCL parks. Second, he filled in other gaps for Negro Leagues ballparks and if one downloads asrivkin's and silvam14's combined efforts one can find a home ballpark for all the the Negro Leagues teams for the years 1945-1947. And now with Simmons Field in Kenosha all four of the teams in the 1943 All American Girl's Professional Baseball League have "a ballpark of their own." I placed on YouTube a 1943 AAGPBL game with the South Bend Blue Sox going to Simmons Field to play the Kenosha Comets, complete with my (ahem) custom 1943 AAGPBL pants and shoes. Here it is and you can read more about what I did at Simmons Field in the YouTube description: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7K99...el=kcstengelsr Thanks again asrivkin. Last edited by kcstengelsr; 05-18-2022 at 10:11 AM.

05-24-2022, 09:23 PM	#133
dishnet34 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,434	I just tried the Drive link to Hanlan's Point, and it gave an error. Could it be re-uploaded possibly, please? __________________ OOTP's Official Perfect Team Hype Man / host of TWIPT Saturday Showdown and Perfect League World Series "Find a way to be alone in a baseball stadium at sunrise, when the only sound you hear are about nine birds that got lost, and found themselves in a stadium, and they’re chirping across the grandstand trying to figure out where the f*** they ended up." -Dan Besbris

06-11-2022, 06:37 PM	#136
asrivkin Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Maryland Posts: 294	Kinsley Park, Providence It's past time to post a few more parks that I've made over the past few months. First up is Kinsley Park, Providence's home of baseball for...a bit of an indeterminate period. It is most famous for hosting the first night game in NFL history in 1929. It was built sometime in the early 1920s, after the Providence Grays left Melrose Park. It served as the site for barnstorming games--Babe Ruth didn't play here in the minors but did play here with Gehrig on their 1927 tour. It also apparently hosted a lot of soccer in the 1920s. There is almost no information about this park online. What I'm posting, besides a screenshot of the behind-home view within OOTP, is a snippet of a Providence atlas from the 1920s and a closeup from an early aerial view that happened to catch the park near the edge of the frame. Google Drive link to Kinsley Park I've used it a few times, so it should be playable. I believe I set the crowd to be animated. The dimensions are guesses based on the map and aerial and a typical backstop distance. The interior is artistic license but should at least be period appropriate. Attached Images

06-12-2022, 05:03 PM	#137
kcstengelsr Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 147	I placed on YouTube a game using asrivkin's new historical Kinsley Park. I chose to do an exhibition game set in 1930 between the Boston Red Sox and the Boston Braves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST05...el=kcstengelsr Thank you asrivkin for this fine historical ballpark!

06-26-2022, 10:09 AM	#138
asrivkin Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Maryland Posts: 294	Hilldale Park I keep planning to post some more old parks and keep getting distracted. Let's see if I can pick up the pace a bit--I have Eclipse Park in Louisville (the minor league one, not any of the major league ones) and Neil Park in Columbus done, but earlier in the week I decided to take on another park from the early days of the Negro Leagues: Hilldale Park in Darby, PA. Google Drive link to Hilldale Park The Hilldale club used the park into the early 30s, but at least the field itself seems to have survived much longer--the overhead aerial photo below is from 1953, the oblique one is from the mid-20s. The field position relative to the grandstand is uncentered. I'll say I knowingly modeled it that way given what I could make out from pictures and maps. Sources say the big tree in right center field was in play, I tried to make the grid reflect that out there, but you might want to adjust it depending on what you need. Finally, while I usually try to put period and location appropriate ads on the walls, this seemed like it was pretty spartan (maybe because it was next to a cemetery?) so I left the walls blank. Enjoy! Attached Images

06-28-2022, 07:22 PM	#139
kcstengelsr Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2021 Posts: 147	Thank you asrivkin for Hilldale Park in Darby, Pennsylvania west of Philadelphia. The Hilldale Club (informally known as the Darby Daises) were in a number of Negro Leagues now considered major league quality. Having a home park for Hilldale Club is good to have as many historic parks for Negro Leagues teams are yet to be created for OOTP. One problem with OOTP23 which I hope eventually is fixed in OOTP24 is the fact that some major league quality Negro Leagues are missing for some years. For examples if one starts a 1928 season with Negro Leagues and minor leagues included you will not find the 1928 Hilldale Club of the Eastern Colored League and if one starts a 1929 season you will not find the 1929 Hilldale Club of the American Negro League. One will find the Hilldale Club if one starts a 1932 season as the complete 1932 East West League is included along with the extra Pittsburgh Crawfords. When one gets a Negro Leagues going in OOTP you usually have to make some manual roster changes. I like to use Seamheads as my NeL source and I set up the starting lineups for the 1932 Hilldale Club and the 1932 Detroit Wolves. I played these two in a game using asrivkin's new Hilldale Park which you may watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acYo...el=kcstengelsr The YouTube description of the game has more details about what was involved in setting up this Negro Leagues game. One thing about the 1932 East West League that I learned recently is the fact that the park of the 1932 Detroit Wolves still exists and is being somewhat restored as a playable historic site: https://www.mlb.com/news/historic-ne...SFN8fufw6HgJsU Thanks for what you do for us, asrivkin! Last edited by kcstengelsr; 06-29-2022 at 06:01 AM.

06-29-2022, 10:16 AM	#140
asrivkin Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Maryland Posts: 294	Thank you, kcstengelsr, I appreciate it. As I noted, I've got a few more older parks to post, I just need work to back off a little bit. And I've seen the great news about Hamtramck Park--I've been kicking around whether to do it as my next Negro League effort, or try to dig up enough information to do Mack Park (or Greenlee Stadium, among others). I know there's a request for Red Wing Stadium, too...