Catch 22

David Watts · 05-06-2022, 08:58 AM

Starting to think there really isn't a solution for pitching during the deadball period. If you go with just a 5 man rotation and no bullpen, it probably works the closest to real life, but then as the fan, one must be willing to watch the starter stay in the game even when one knows he should be pulled. I just started 1915 last night. Default settings have it set to 4 starters, 3 relief pitchers. Well right away I see this will drive me nuts. There's going to be guys making 40 or more relief appearances easily. So, I changed it to 5 starters, 1 relief pitcher. Still think the one relief pitcher will get more appearances than desired, but not as bad as the default way. Thing is, the top 2 starters overall will end up getting less starts, so it will be interesting to see how that works out. I would really like to see how the game would play with 6 man rotation(rotation just because that's what the game calls it) and no bullpen. But, always start the highest rested needs to prioritize the the top 2 starters big time and then on a lesser basis prioritize the 3rd and 4th starters and only use 5 and 6 on a spot start basis. Right now if you set it to 6 man rotation, you are for the most part rolling with a 5 man rotation starts wise.

luckymann · 05-06-2022, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Starting to think there really isn't a solution for pitching during the deadball period. If you go with just a 5 man rotation and no bullpen, it probably works the closest to real life, but then as the fan, one must be willing to watch the starter stay in the game even when one knows he should be pulled. I just started 1915 last night. Default settings have it set to 4 starters, 3 relief pitchers. Well right away I see this will drive me nuts. There's going to be guys making 40 or more relief appearances easily. So, I changed it to 5 starters, 1 relief pitcher. Still think the one relief pitcher will get more appearances than desired, but not as bad as the default way. Thing is, the top 2 starters overall will end up getting less starts, so it will be interesting to see how that works out. I would really like to see how the game would play with 6 man rotation(rotation just because that's what the game calls it) and no bullpen. But, always start the highest rested needs to prioritize the the top 2 starters big time and then on a lesser basis prioritize the 3rd and 4th starters and only use 5 and 6 on a spot start basis. Right now if you set it to 6 man rotation, you are for the most part rolling with a 5 man rotation starts wise.

Have you seen JoefromChicago's work on this DW? Worth looking at for insights on this very subject.

PART 1

PART 2

David Watts · 05-06-2022, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by luckymann

Have you seen JoefromChicago's work on this DW? Worth looking at for insights on this very subject.

PART 1

PART 2

Yeah, I actually comment in the second one. I may give 6, no bullpen another shot, but if I remember right, it severely limits the number of starts the staff's studs get. Less starts might be the better of the two options though.

luckymann · 05-06-2022, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Yeah, I actually comment in the second one. I may give 6, no bullpen another shot, but if I remember right, it severely limits the number of starts the staff's studs get. Less starts might be the better of the two options though.

What about if you allocate them less relief work than the lower SP?

David Watts · 05-06-2022, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by luckymann

What about if you allocate them less relief work than the lower SP?

That's something to think about as well.

Reed · 05-06-2022, 03:04 PM

I pretty much made my own custom 146 game schedule. I use 1980 as my base with 5 man highest rested. Teams have an off day (or 2) every 4-9 games. The top 3 pitchers for each team have about 33-35 starts, number 4 starter about 25 and the number 5 pitcher about 20 starts.
I think if you want your top 2 or 3 pitchers to have a lot more starts using highest rested, then you will have to have more days off than most schedules. Probably 1 or 2 days off every week (sometimes 2 days in a roll) so that the number 4/5 pitcher will get skipped. The more scattered days off, the more times the bottom of the rotation gets skipped.
I think a 6 man rotation starting highest rested would result in the 6th man not getting any starts unless there are 6 games in 5 days.
I know this doesn’t help much if you want to play the regular schedule.

05-06-2022, 08:58 AM	#1
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 9,598 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Catch 22 Starting to think there really isn't a solution for pitching during the deadball period. If you go with just a 5 man rotation and no bullpen, it probably works the closest to real life, but then as the fan, one must be willing to watch the starter stay in the game even when one knows he should be pulled. I just started 1915 last night. Default settings have it set to 4 starters, 3 relief pitchers. Well right away I see this will drive me nuts. There's going to be guys making 40 or more relief appearances easily. So, I changed it to 5 starters, 1 relief pitcher. Still think the one relief pitcher will get more appearances than desired, but not as bad as the default way. Thing is, the top 2 starters overall will end up getting less starts, so it will be interesting to see how that works out. I would really like to see how the game would play with 6 man rotation(rotation just because that's what the game calls it) and no bullpen. But, always start the highest rested needs to prioritize the the top 2 starters big time and then on a lesser basis prioritize the 3rd and 4th starters and only use 5 and 6 on a spot start basis. Right now if you set it to 6 man rotation, you are for the most part rolling with a 5 man rotation starts wise.

05-06-2022, 03:04 PM	#6
Reed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 2,339	I pretty much made my own custom 146 game schedule. I use 1980 as my base with 5 man highest rested. Teams have an off day (or 2) every 4-9 games. The top 3 pitchers for each team have about 33-35 starts, number 4 starter about 25 and the number 5 pitcher about 20 starts. I think if you want your top 2 or 3 pitchers to have a lot more starts using highest rested, then you will have to have more days off than most schedules. Probably 1 or 2 days off every week (sometimes 2 days in a roll) so that the number 4/5 pitcher will get skipped. The more scattered days off, the more times the bottom of the rotation gets skipped. I think a 6 man rotation starting highest rested would result in the 6th man not getting any starts unless there are 6 games in 5 days. I know this doesn’t help much if you want to play the regular schedule. Last edited by Reed; 05-07-2022 at 07:10 AM.