Version 1.6.8 Game Update Now Available

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by AEWHistory

Okay, I decided to try re-running the settings I've used: I started in 1973 but this time I let it run without taking a job. There was a draft in 1974 but in 1975 the draft board was empty again.

Oh poop....

Just to clarify why this happens: in 1974, the NHL, worried about the WHA signing underage players, allowed under-20 players to be drafted in the first two rounds. The next year, they reverted back to a 20-year-old draft. The game can't vary age requirements by round, though. So if I set the minimum age in 1974 as 20, a lot of the key guys who were taken historically (Trottier, Larouche, Paiement, Tremblay, etc.) won't be eligible for another year or two.

Instead, I made it 19 for the whole draft; unfortunately, if you have generate at 17 on, that means the teams clean out the entire 1955-born draft pool aside from a small handful of the worst players, who become free agents after passing through the draft once. That leaves nobody available for the real 1975 draft. Turning generate at 17 off avoids that by not creating the 1975 draftees until that year, so there's no opportunity for them to be taken in 1974.

[JeffR]

Originally Posted by h3ilp3rn

Hey guys - thanks for the update! I'm excited to put it to work. Can you please answer my question I've asked repeatedly though? When I launch the game, I don't see any text on the any of the button in the UI. I've uninstalled and reinstalled, to no avail. Any thoughts on what might be causing this?

The best option in this case may be to open a support ticket (at this link) and have one of our tech support guys walk you through the uninstall/reinstall. It's not a problem I remember seeing with anyone else using a Mac, so I suspect it's either an issue with a corrupt installation that's not getting removed correctly, or something that's very specific to your system. Either way, we'll need to do some more investigating to be sure.

[mrmyheadhurts]

Sorry, moved to bug thread.

[G-Nuke]

Originally Posted by JeffR

Just to clarify why this happens: in 1974, the NHL, worried about the WHA signing underage players, allowed under-20 players to be drafted in the first two rounds. The next year, they reverted back to a 20-year-old draft. The game can't vary age requirements by round, though. So if I set the minimum age in 1974 as 20, a lot of the key guys who were taken historically (Trottier, Larouche, Paiement, Tremblay, etc.) won't be eligible for another year or two.

Instead, I made it 19 for the whole draft; unfortunately, if you have generate at 17 on, that means the teams clean out the entire 1955-born draft pool aside from a small handful of the worst players, who become free agents after passing through the draft once. That leaves nobody available for the real 1975 draft. Turning generate at 17 off avoids that by not creating the 1975 draftees until that year, so there's no opportunity for them to be taken in 1974.

Couldn't you simulate this by setting up 2 drafts?

[thepete]

Might've been commented on, but I'm pretty sure the game doesn't follow the new rules for playoff match-ups?

[thepete]

And offer sheets are broken. I offer PK Subban 7 million, MTL match but those 7 million disappear from my budget. ****in' brilliant. This is mindboggling.

RFAs are also broken, unless you count players you own the rights for signing with AHL teams for one thirtieth of the money you offered "working". Yeah, Adam Larsson was offered 3m x 4 and signed for 116k.

[AEWHistory]

Originally Posted by JeffR

Just to clarify why this happens: in 1974, the NHL, worried about the WHA signing underage players, allowed under-20 players to be drafted in the first two rounds. The next year, they reverted back to a 20-year-old draft. The game can't vary age requirements by round, though. So if I set the minimum age in 1974 as 20, a lot of the key guys who were taken historically (Trottier, Larouche, Paiement, Tremblay, etc.) won't be eligible for another year or two.

Instead, I made it 19 for the whole draft; unfortunately, if you have generate at 17 on, that means the teams clean out the entire 1955-born draft pool aside from a small handful of the worst players, who become free agents after passing through the draft once. That leaves nobody available for the real 1975 draft. Turning generate at 17 off avoids that by not creating the 1975 draftees until that year, so there's no opportunity for them to be taken in 1974.

I see. That's actually rather neat how the history of the game, especially in the '70s, make simulating it rather hard. I think leaving "17" off is a perfectly sensible workaround. I prefer to have fewer drafts with an over- and under-abundance of talent. It makes it easier and more reasonable to plan to use DPs. OTOH, picks in some years really are worth more than other years.

As an aside, I've noticed (and Duranium pointed out) that Chico Resch develops into a 7.5 goalie. But he starts with a 6.0 potential. How common is this is the game? IOW, when we are drafting, is it safe to assume that once a player's real potential is established that is his max (save for perhaps a handful of hardcoded outliers like Resch)? Or is this possible with any player in theory? I've seen players I've drafted have their potential go down () but I don't recall seeing it go up except in this case.

[jh95]

Hi Jeff,

thanks for Fixing the 1981 to 1986 playoff formats!

[jh95]

Hi Jeff,

where is the best place to post wrong free agents, etc. existing in the "Historic Mode".
A separate thread or a bug in the PT?

Free agents that should not be:

1984 J.Miller FA -> Minnesota North Stars
1984 Gord Kluzak -> Did not play that 1984-85 but should still be property of Boston (did play again 1985-86 for Boston)
1990 Bob Corkum
1990 Mike Sullivan
1990 Randy Gregg
1.6.8 FIXED - 1991 John MacLean
1992 V. Konstantinov, A. Semak, V. Kamensky, V. Zelepukin, D. Mironov, S. Nemchinov, J. Laukkanen (on July 1st of second season... with "Generate at 17 turned OFF")

Thanks,
Joachim

[Mordrehl]

Originally Posted by thepete

And offer sheets are broken. I offer PK Subban 7 million, MTL match but those 7 million disappear from my budget. ****in' brilliant. This is mindboggling.

RFAs are also broken, unless you count players you own the rights for signing with AHL teams for one thirtieth of the money you offered "working". Yeah, Adam Larsson was offered 3m x 4 and signed for 116k.

Read the patch notes for 1.6.8 and thought "well I'll finally give FHM another go" and then read this post ...

Anybody else experience this yet?

[asilvermtzion]

Originally Posted by Mordrehl

Read the patch notes for 1.6.8 and thought "well I'll finally give FHM another go" and then read this post ...

Anybody else experience this yet?

yeah, offer sheets are strange. i had one save where i sent offers to a bunch of players who all resigned with their original teams, but i had something like $28million of my budget unavailable after that. i suspect that the offers didnt clear after the players became unavailable.

my latest save is better though. all offers i made that were not accepted seem to have cleared. except for offers to my own players, who have already signed with me. $10million or so in offers, but no 'active offers'.

[Mrkela]

Playing in the NHL and I've noticed that all of my European draft picks don't want to "play overseas" and won't even consider a contract. Seems like the variable for this is bit too strong.

[Mordrehl]

Originally Posted by asilvermtzion

yeah, offer sheets are strange. i had one save where i sent offers to a bunch of players who all resigned with their original teams, but i had something like $28million of my budget unavailable after that. i suspect that the offers didnt clear after the players became unavailable.

my latest save is better though. all offers i made that were not accepted seem to have cleared. except for offers to my own players, who have already signed with me. $10million or so in offers, but no 'active offers'.

So 10mil tied up in your budget for offers to players that have already signed?

[asilvermtzion]

Originally Posted by Mordrehl

So 10mil tied up in your budget for offers to players that have already signed?

exactly.

[thepete]

Originally Posted by Mordrehl

Read the patch notes for 1.6.8 and thought "well I'll finally give FHM another go" and then read this post ...

Don't waste your time.

[highheat42]

anyone else have prospects disappearing off their minor league rosters however still showing up in the contract max area? I have to constantly move them down to the ECHL and then back up to the AHL to have them get back onto the AHL roster.

[asilvermtzion]

Originally Posted by highheat42

anyone else have prospects disappearing off their minor league rosters however still showing up in the contract max area? I have to constantly move them down to the ECHL and then back up to the AHL to have them get back onto the AHL roster.

yup, ive had the same problem.

[thepete]

Remember all that criticism about lack of interaction and feedback? You can be sure it's coming back, guys.

[Sebmono]

Yeah whatever happened to that update thread that was supposed to be updated every few days? That didn't last long, hasn't been updated in over a month with no word on the match enging update in some time now...

[Mordrehl]

Originally Posted by Sebmono

Yeah whatever happened to that update thread that was supposed to be updated every few days? That didn't last long, hasn't been updated in over a month with no word on the match enging update in some time now...

You mean this one : http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...te-thread.html

Lets see ... Sebastien has a bunch of recent posts regarding iOOTP

JeffR replied to a post in the FHM forums 12 hours ago about "future versions of FHM"

But no response in 6 days in this thread about the most recent update the ... lets be blunt, continued RFA and contract issues that have plagued this version since BETA.

Having said that ... I loaded up FHM anyways ...

Love the new Scouting tabs for players (I haven't played in months)
Love the new training

Rest of the GUI needs a lot of work, but meh ... that'll come with future versions

Contracts ... lets see, started a save with this patch, Lars Eller asking for close to 6m/year ... oh and before JeffR answers I can do my best imitation of him "that's not unreasonable" ... yeah, ummm ok. In the real world Lars Eller is most likely going to get betwee 2.5-4.0m/year ... probably on the lower end of that. It's ridiculous to see a player who is not getting 1st line minutes, is not producing top-6 totals demanding to be paid as if he is ... and pretty much refuse to negotiate downwards.

Haven't tested much beyond that, because as soon as I saw Eller asking for 6m/year I figured why bother ... come the post-season Montreal is going to lose most of it's CORE since they only have 4-5 players signed beyond the current season