Can we have a no doubleheader option?

[Fyrestorm3]

Originally Posted by megamanmatt

No part of the game wouldn't benefit.

So... everyone should be forced to use ratings, on a 1-20 scale, playing GM-only with Scouting on, League Evolution on, and Free Agency?

Honestly can't tell if you're trolling or not.

[megamanmatt]

Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

So... everyone should be forced to use ratings, on a 1-20 scale, playing GM-only with Scouting on, League Evolution on, and Free Agency?

Honestly can't tell if you're trolling or not.

I'm not.

[BusterKing]

Originally Posted by Mat

This is with the latest patch.... I had a snow out on opening day!

Played game 2 as normal and then completed the end of the opening day game after the completion which was great. But both teams still had the opening day starters continuing in the game.

Was this supposed to be fixed in the patch?

That's why I prefer not having that stuff in the game if it's going to act up and ruin the games for you.

[Fyrestorm3]

Originally Posted by megamanmatt

I'm not.

Well the fact that I had to ask obviously means you're not arguing your point very well. I'm done here.

[megamanmatt]

Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

Well the fact that I had to ask obviously means you're not arguing your point very well. I'm done here.

The fact you need to act like a child means you won't understand I'm not arguing my point in the first place.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by Mat

Maybe an option to choose between reschedule rain outs as doubleheader or on next free day off?

OOTP has code in which it checks to see if there is a suitable common off day. If not, then it will schedule a (day-night) doubleheader.

Originally Posted by hefalumps

I haven't played 16 yet, but it sounds like rainouts and suspended games might need some work.

IMO, yes, they do.

One of the reasons to have postponed games is so that not all clubs will necessarily play out a full schedule when some games can't be made up. OOTP 16 does not support this—ALL postponed games in the game will be made up no matter what, even when according to real life rules they should not. (This, however, is apparently tied to the financial engine meaning it's not going to be looked at until OOTP 17 or later).

Another factor is that in the major leagues postponed games are not always made up as separate admission, day-night doubleheaders. Some are made up as single admission, regular doubleheaders. OOTP 16 does not support this. (This significantly affects the minor leagues, which nearly always make up postponed games as regular doubleheaders. Again, however, this is apparently tied to limitations in the current financial engine, meaning it's not going to be looked at until next year at the earliest.)

A minor point is that in real life not all games are postponed due to weather; some (roughly 2%) are postponed due to other causes, such as a light failure at the park. OOTP does not as yet account for this, meaning a domed stadium will never see a postponement (whereas in real life they sometimes do).

In terms of suspended games, I honestly think these should be taken out of OOTP 16. The way they are implemented in the game currently breaks a major and long-standing baseball rule: all the player statistics and appearances in a suspended game are credited to the date the game was started. In OOTP, however (unless there was a change I missed) the statistics and appearances are credited to the date the game was finished. Baseball has never done it that way. And even though the real baseball rules' handling of suspended games can cause all sorts of statistical oddities (see this article for some examples) the rules nevertheless operate that way.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by hobbitrjw

I'm not sure what the actual rescheduling rules are word by word,and what procedure MLB uses,but probably one issue is that the Tigers do not return to Pittsburgh at all again that season.

The real-life major league rules have on rescheduling postponed games has evolved over the years.

Originally, if a game was postponed in a club's park it was to be made up in that club's park. As this often wasn't possible, clubs sometimes lost a number of playing dates from their schedules. Later, the rule was changed to allow a postponed game to be made up in the other club's park if it could not be made up in the original park. So, for example, if a Cleveland at Detroit game was postponed, and no more dates in Detroit remained, the game would then be made up in Cleveland, with Detroit batting first as the road team and the game counted as an away game for Detroit and a home game for Cleveland.

This was the situation for many years until 2007. The rule was changed so that when a game was being made up in the other club's park, the other club was treated as if it was the visiting team even though the game was played in its park. So, for example, Boston at Seattle is postponed. There are no further dates in Seattle, so the game is made up as Seattle at Boston. However, for the purposes of the game, Boston is treated as the away team: it wears its road uniforms and bats first, even though the game is being played in its own park. Statistically, however, the game is counted as a Seattle away game and a Boston home game. What this means in practice is that the game is a case of the home team batting first.

In terms of when postponed games could be made up, until the early 1950s all postponed games had be made up by the scheduled end of the regular season. What that meant in practice is that a club could theoretically win or lose the pennant due to a postponement. If, for example, two clubs were tied on the final day of the regular season and one club played and lost while the other had its game rained out, the club that played and lost would finish a half-game behind the club that hadn't played and thus lose the pennant.

The rule was changed so that postponed games having a bearing on the pennant race could be made up even after the scheduled end of the regular season. So now, continuing with the previous example, the club that had been postponed on the final day of the season would make up its game the next day, either winning its game and taking the pennant, or losing and dropping into a tie (thus forcing a tie-breaking playoff game).

[Hockey13Playa]

^^^ so it looks my game I posted about Pittsburgh and Detroit on the first page was handled correctly in terms of scheduling and mocking the MLB postponed games rules.