Player creation question

Hrycaj · 05-15-2015, 03:41 PM

I created a fictional league that has the following levels ML/AAA/AA. I also use a college feeder. All of my players come from the college feeder league. I started the universe in 1898 I believe and I wanted the league to mirror mlb numbers for whatever given year I was in.

Things started great. I observed closely for the first 10 or so seasons and all was well. Hit the live ball era and home run numbers started to climb. I thought all was well. I really wanted to get to 1950 and take over a team. So I started simming many years at a time without paying attention to it.

I noticed now in 1932 that my league leaders in home runs are at 17 in each league. (Low for the time period). So I did a re-calc of the settings and in 1933 it went up to 20. So I play stats only so I really don't know the player ratings. I went into the editor to take a peek and I noticed the top home run hitters are rated at 20-28 on a 250 point scale.

So I guess my question is why is the game generating players that won't develop any sort of power? I thought I ran across this recently in a feeder league discussion that over the long haul the feeder league players cannot mirror what the game would normally produce without them. Is this true? Not even sure if that is what I read. I couldn't find the thread.

Thanks for reading and sharing any comments.

The Game · 05-15-2015, 06:28 PM

For about 20 seasons in my ABF league the South League (basically National League) typical top hitter would be around .310 while the North League hitter would be .50 points higher. The top HR guy for 5 or so seasons never hit above 15 HR while I had a few clones of real players hit 80 HR in the NL. No clue why it was like that but it does seems that with fictional and even using real parks that fictional will produce lower numbers overall especially pre 1980. I am in 1948 now.

Hrycaj · 05-18-2015, 01:20 PM

Out of town this weekend. First chance I had to read this. Thanks for the reply "The Game". So in your opinion the feeder league isn't the problem? This would have happened with a generated draft class as well? If that's true that is pretty disheartening. I was hoping to have similar stats to real world MLB years of the time. Oh well, I guess this alternate existence will have to take on a life of its own without tremendous power hitters.

Questdog · 05-18-2015, 02:43 PM

Sounds to me like you are using Player Creation Modifiers and they have not been updating. The players from 1930 are still using the PCM's of the initial players.

Either do away with PCM's or make sure they are importing for every year.

NoOne · 05-18-2015, 05:59 PM

is the following option checked?

league settings -> players
"automatically import historical player-creation modifiers"

Hrycaj · 05-23-2015, 05:37 PM

I haven't had much time to play recently. Thank you "NoOne" I did not have that checked. Hopefully that is the fix I was looking for.

Questdog · 05-23-2015, 06:28 PM

This will not fix things immediately, it will only fix new players coming into the league. All the players already there will still be the same.

My advice is to start over.

Hrycaj · 05-23-2015, 06:45 PM

That is exactly what I'm doing.

05-15-2015, 03:41 PM	#1
Hrycaj All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,696	Player creation question I created a fictional league that has the following levels ML/AAA/AA. I also use a college feeder. All of my players come from the college feeder league. I started the universe in 1898 I believe and I wanted the league to mirror mlb numbers for whatever given year I was in. Things started great. I observed closely for the first 10 or so seasons and all was well. Hit the live ball era and home run numbers started to climb. I thought all was well. I really wanted to get to 1950 and take over a team. So I started simming many years at a time without paying attention to it. I noticed now in 1932 that my league leaders in home runs are at 17 in each league. (Low for the time period). So I did a re-calc of the settings and in 1933 it went up to 20. So I play stats only so I really don't know the player ratings. I went into the editor to take a peek and I noticed the top home run hitters are rated at 20-28 on a 250 point scale. So I guess my question is why is the game generating players that won't develop any sort of power? I thought I ran across this recently in a feeder league discussion that over the long haul the feeder league players cannot mirror what the game would normally produce without them. Is this true? Not even sure if that is what I read. I couldn't find the thread. Thanks for reading and sharing any comments. __________________ Click on my signature to read about the great game of baseball in Normington.

05-15-2015, 06:28 PM	#2
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	For about 20 seasons in my ABF league the South League (basically National League) typical top hitter would be around .310 while the North League hitter would be .50 points higher. The top HR guy for 5 or so seasons never hit above 15 HR while I had a few clones of real players hit 80 HR in the NL. No clue why it was like that but it does seems that with fictional and even using real parks that fictional will produce lower numbers overall especially pre 1980. I am in 1948 now. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

05-18-2015, 01:20 PM	#3
Hrycaj All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,696	Out of town this weekend. First chance I had to read this. Thanks for the reply "The Game". So in your opinion the feeder league isn't the problem? This would have happened with a generated draft class as well? If that's true that is pretty disheartening. I was hoping to have similar stats to real world MLB years of the time. Oh well, I guess this alternate existence will have to take on a life of its own without tremendous power hitters. __________________ Click on my signature to read about the great game of baseball in Normington.

05-23-2015, 05:37 PM	#6
Hrycaj All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,696	I haven't had much time to play recently. Thank you "NoOne" I did not have that checked. Hopefully that is the fix I was looking for. __________________ Click on my signature to read about the great game of baseball in Normington.

05-23-2015, 06:45 PM	#8
Hrycaj All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,696	That is exactly what I'm doing. __________________ Click on my signature to read about the great game of baseball in Normington.

05-18-2015, 02:43 PM	#4
Questdog Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a dark, damp cave where I'm training slugs to run the bases...... Posts: 16,142	Sounds to me like you are using Player Creation Modifiers and they have not been updating. The players from 1930 are still using the PCM's of the initial players. Either do away with PCM's or make sure they are importing for every year.

05-18-2015, 05:59 PM	#5
NoOne Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,273 Infractions: 0/1 (3)	is the following option checked? league settings -> players "automatically import historical player-creation modifiers"

05-23-2015, 06:28 PM	#7
Questdog Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: In a dark, damp cave where I'm training slugs to run the bases...... Posts: 16,142	This will not fix things immediately, it will only fix new players coming into the league. All the players already there will still be the same. My advice is to start over.