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Joe Tinker- The final member of the famous double play combo ended up being drafted by Cleveland in 1901, so he never got to go Evers to Chance. From 1902 until his retirement in 1915 at age 34, he remained in Cleveland.
Joe's numbers looked like this- 7359 AB, 1926 H, .262 BA, .635 OPS, 809 R, 296 doubles, 105 triples, 17 HR, 688 RBI, 369 SB, 91.1 WAR (31st) Tinker's WAR total is a testament to his great defense abilities, as his hitting numbers were never great. He led the league 4 times in WAR, including an incredible 11.3 in 1910, which is the 6th highest season total in Replay League history. His best offensive year was his second to last in 1914 when he hit a league leading .318 with a .745 OPS, 54 R, 21 doubles, 11 triples, 0 HR, 60 RBI, 10 SB and 7.0 WAR. His BA was the only time he led the league in any offensive category. Strangely, the next season he only hit .165 in 351 AB and retired after that season....what a drop off! Joe won one championship, was the Rookie of the Year, a 7-time Gold Glove Winner, 4-time Silver Slugger and 10-time All-Star. Much like the rest of the Tinker to Evers to Chance trio, the accomplishments were impressive, but the numbers just didn't make the cut to be voted into the HOF. He stayed on the ballot for 10 years, but never got more votes than his first year with 30.4%.
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Rube Waddell- Rube played 4 years prior to the Replay League. He only spent 10 more years playing, as he retired at age 33 in 1910.....but that's actually when he retired in real life as well! He spent his whole career with the Pirates.
Waddell's numbers were- 195-139, 4 Saves, 3065.2 IP, 2.32 ERA (8th), 1.13 WHIP (T-24th), 2142 K (91st), 6.3 K/9, 76.9 WAR (37th) Much like Ed Plank, Rube made the most of his relatively short career. He won 20+ games 4 times, leading the league once. He led the league in strikeouts 6 out of the 7 years from 1903-1909. It likely would have been all 7, but he suffered a torn rotator cuff in 1908 that kept him out 5 months. He led in K/9 nine times and ERA three times. He often made relief appearances between starts and led the league in games with 51 in 1904. His best season is a tough call between that 1904 season and 1907. In 04, he went 25-17 with 2 saves, a 1.75 ERA, 1.08 WHIP, 286 Ks and 9.8 WAR in 359.2 IP. In 07, he went 28-12 with a 1.69 ERA, 1.03 WHIP, 223 Ks and 8.4 WAR in 357 IP. In his injury-riddled 1908 season, he was off to a great start at 7-2 with a 1.61 ERA. Waddell was a 5-time World Series winner, 7-time All-Star and 3-time Cy Young Award Winner. 1916 was his first year of consideration for the HOF and he got right in with 91.7% of the vote.
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Ed Walsh- The top pick of the NY Giants in the 1901 draft, Walsh spent his whole career as a Giant. He played from 1902-1916, retiring at age 35.
Ed's numbers were- 231-175 (52nd in wins), 9 Saves, 3706.1 IP (68th), 2.46 ERA (21st), 1.14 WHIP (31st...strangely the only player to finish with this WHIP), 1941 K, 4.7 K/9, 77.6 WAR (35th) From 1904-1913, Ed won 20+ games 8 times, leading the league twice. He didn't lead the league in categories very often, but always put up strong numbers that must have fallen just short. His best year was 1906, when he went 26-13 with a 1.63 ERA, 1.00 WHIP, 170 Ks and 7.9 WAR in 352.1 IP. He led the league that year in wins, WHIP and WAR....but not ERA. I'll get to who led the league that year in the future! It was NOT a HOFer. Walsh won a Gold Glove, was named to 5 All-Star teams and won one Cy Young Award. In his first year of eligibility, 1922, he was voted into the HOF with 96.1% of the vote. He didn't have the awards many other HOFers have, but that run of 20-win seasons plus the 2.46 career ERA are hard to ignore.
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Mickey Cochrane- Mickey was drafted with the first overall pick in 1922 by the Cardinals. However, he didn't sign with them! Then, in 1923, they picked him again with the 2nd overall pick...this time he signed. He made his debut with them in 1924, at age 21, and remained in St. Louis until he was traded in the middle of the 1929 season to the Washington Senators for 3B Joe Stripp and SP Lefty Gomez. Did it end up a HOFer for HOFer trade? Stay tuned to find out!
![]() Mickey's numbers were- 6999 AB, 2121 H (13th most for C), .303 BA, .839 OPS, 1133 R (4th most for C), 414 doubles (7th most for C), 73 triples (9th most for C), 114 HR, 1047 RBI (17th most for C), 61 SB, 69.2 WAR (5th most for C...94th overall) Cochrane was a very consistent player. He hit .300 or better 11 times and was in the .290s three more. He was excellent at getting on base, with a .407 lifetime OBP. He walked 1, 238 times in his career to only 459 Ks. His best season is tough to determine. He did some great things in different seasons, but never put them all together. In just his second season, he hit .352, but never hit more than .326 the rest of his career ( and that was at age 35!). In 1932, he had 105 RBI and in 1930 he had 99, but never had more than 77 the rest of his career. He had triples totals of 14 and 12, but never got more than 6 in any other year. It was that kind of career. Mickey won one World Series, was a 5-time Silver Slugger and 10-time All-Star. It took 9 years of mostly totals in the high 60's and low 70's, but in 1955 Mickey was voted into the HOF with 85.5% of the vote. It seems like that was a pretty tough committee....he was clearly one of the very best catchers to play the game up to that point! In the end he made it, so that is what matters.
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Frankie Frisch- The Fordham Flash was the first pick of the 1918 draft and was taken by the Cardinals. He made his debut with them at 20 years old the following year. He played in St. Louis until the middle of the 1927 season when they traded him to the Philadelphia Phillies for a package of OF Adam Comorosky, P Milt Shoffner, C Dutch Krauss and 3B Ira Smith. Frisch played in Philly for the rest of his career, retiring in 1938 at age 39. He played very sparingly his last two years.
Frankie's numbers came out like this- 10132 AB (T-58th), 3109 H (39th), .307 BA (92nd), .774 OPS, 1593 R (52nd), 482 doubles , 157 triples (T-43rd), 104 HR, 1122 RBI, 500 SB (52nd), 79.8 WAR (50th) Frisch was all over the career leader board in a number of categories and he had some excellent seasons. He started right off in his rookie year, batting .301 with a league leading 20 triples and 53 steals. Strangely, his best year was probably the year he was traded, 1927. He started off with St. Louis in incredible fashion, with a .367 BA and 42 steals in just 92 games. He slowed down after the trade, but his final numbers were .340/.396/.451, 107 R, 37 doubles, 8 triples, 5 HR, 59 RBI, 56 SB and 7.8 WAR. Once he got to Philly, he really got to the plate at an incredible rate, leading the league in 5 of his first 6 years there. He also scored over 100 runs 5 years in a row once he got to the Phillies...and he followed those years up with 3 more in the 90's. Frisch ended up a 3-time champion. He won Rookie of the Year, was a 7-time Gold Glove winner, 3-time Silver Slugger, and 7-time All-Star. 1944 was his first year on the HOF ballot, and not surprisingly, he was voted in...with 93.4% of the vote.
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Lefty Grove- The Left-handed one was taken with the 14th overall pick in the 1919 draft by the New York Yankees. He made his debut in 1921, but only pitched 10.1 innings. He didn't make it back to NY until 1925. Then, he remained on the Yankees until he retired at 41 years old in 1941.
Lefty's numbers were- 244-248 (40th in wins), 5 Saves, 4430 IP (31st), 3.39 ERA, 1.33 WHIP, 1970 K, 4 K/9, 83.4 WAR (22nd) Grove had a very strange career. He led the league in wins twice, but also in losses twice. He was the ERA leader 5 times and the strikeout leader 5 times in a row from 1927-1931. He also led the league in WHIP twice. In both 1929 and 1930, he won the pitching Triple Crown with 21 wins/2.72 ERA/173 K in 1929 and 22 wins/3.15 ERA/193 K in 1930. However, he obviously finished with a losing record and career ERA and WHIP numbers that are nowhere near the top 100. Lefty won one World Series with the Yankees. He was a 10-time All-Star and 5-time Cy Young Award winner. His overall numbers weren't all the best, but he was clearly one of the best pitchers in his era. In 1947, his first year on the HOF ballot, he was elected with 78.4% of the vote.
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Carl Hubbell- Hubbell was drafted with the 11th overall pick in 1923 by Brooklyn. He never pitched for them, however, as he was traded to the St. Louis Browns in 1926 as part of a package deal for SP Dazzy Vance. He made his Browns debut in 1927 and stayed with them his whole career. He retired at age 37 in 1941.
Carl's numbers- 212-187 (T-84th in Wins), 4 Saves, 3589.1 IP (83rd), 3.85 ERA, 1.38 WHIP, 1505 Ks, 3.8 K/9, 79.4 WAR (31st) Carl led the league in wins three times, but also losses three times. He led the league in ERA once, but had many years with ERAs well over 4. He did very well in WAR, leading the league 5 times. His best season was 1932 when he went 18-13 with a 2.87 ERA, 1.17 WHIP, 133 Ks and 7.6 WAR in 282 IP. He led in wins, ERA, WHIP and WAR. He won two World Series, one Gold Glove, was a 6-time All-Star and 3-time Cy Young Award winner. Despite a pretty impressive resume with many awards and that 31st best WAR total, Hubbell was never able to get the number of votes he needed to be in the HOF. He stayed on the ballot 10 years and was always in the 43-55% range. So far, he's the most questionable omission I've seen.....that career WHIP is pretty high, but everything else says HOFer or at least pretty close.
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Herb Pennock- The Knight of Kennett Square was drafted in 1911 by the NY Giants. He was taken in the 6th round with the 94th overall pick. He debuted in 1912 at 18 years old and played with NY until he was traded in 1920 to Brooklyn for C Ray Schalk and 2B Binky Jones. He stayed with Brooklyn until his retirement in 1935 at age 41. One of the longest careers we've seen at 23 years!
Pennock's numbers were- 290-249 (16th in Wins), 10 Saves, 4708.2 IP (18th), 3.55 ERA, 1.34 WHIP, 1389 Ks, 2.7 K/9, 75.5 WAR (40th) Herb's pitching opportunities were a little inconsistent for his first few years. He worked some out of the bullpen and/or had some injuries. His first real full season was 1918 and he made the most of it, going 23-13 with a 2.27 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, 84 Ks and 5.8 WAR in 329 IP. Clearly he was not a big strikeout pitcher! Once he went to Brooklyn, we got much more consistent playing time. He missed most of 1928 with a torn flexor tendon, but was otherwise pitching 300 innings or so each year. He won 20+ games with Brooklyn 5 different times. Pennock, unlike his real-life counterpart, never won a World Series. He did win one Gold Glove and was a 5-time All-Star. In 1941, his first year of eligibility, he was voted into the HOF with 81.6 % of the vote. Seems like he was a great example of just collecting stats over a long career. I have to think the wins and WAR got him in, but his level of success is not as high as the level of Hubbell who didn't make it.
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Pie Traynor- Pie was drafted by the White Sox with the 7th overall pick in 1919. He had cups of coffee in 1920 and 1921 and then became a fulltime player in 1922. He stayed with Chicago until 1927. He was then traded to the Boston Braves along with C Earle Stanwood for a package of OF Howie Williamson, OF Ray Pepper, C Ballplayer Storme, OF Clarence Hamel and 2B Bernie James. Traynor remained in Boston until he retired in 1936 at age 37.
Pie's numbers were as follows- 7253 AB, 2243 H, .309 BA (T-72nd), .746 OPS, 984 R, 345 doubles, 112 triples, 40 HR, 872 RBI, 147 SB, 35.6 WAR Traynor had some very solid years. However, he only led the league in a category once in his career, with 202 hits in 1923. His best season was 1929, when he hit .346/.373/.478, 82 R, 39 doubles, 10 triples, 5 HR, 93 RBI, 7 SB and 4.6 WAR in 563 AB. He hit over .300 9 times, and only hit as low as .272 in his last full season, so he was pretty consistent....just never really spectacular. Award-wise, Pie was a Silver Slugger winner once and a 1-time All-Star. It seems like he had the numbers to do better than that, but there must have been some other very good 3B players in his era. As far as the HOF, he only lasted 3 years on the ballot, with a peak of 5.3% in his first year.
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Moedecai Brown- Three Finger was drafted with the 8th overall pick by the New York Highlanders in 1902. He made his debut in 1903 and stayed with NY until his 1913 retirement at age 36.
Brown's numbers were- 172-152, 2923.2, 2.76 ERA (T-64th), 1.19 WHIP (T-68th), 1242 K, 3.8 K/9, 51.1 WAR Mordecai had a pretty short career, with only 10 full seasons. He won 20+ games 4 times and 19 games twice, so he was very effective. His best season was 1906, when he went 23-13 with a 2.02 ERA, 1.05 WHIP, 168 Ks and 6.9 WAR in 361.1 IP. He only had an ERA over 2.91 once in his career. Brown won two World Series, but was only and All-Star one time in his career. He also won one Cy Young Award. Strangely, those two things happened in different years and neither was in 1906! Another strange fact is that after the Yankees released him after the 1913 season, he actually signed a contract with the Cubs....then decided to retire a month later. He stayed on the HOF ballot 3 years, but never got more than 9.8% of the vote.
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Charlie Gehringer- The Mechanical Man was the 3rd overall pick in the 1923 draft. He was taken by the NY Giants and stayed with them from his debut in 1924 to his retirement in 1942 at age 39.
Chas' numbers (as he signed his autographs) were- 8958 AB, 2757 H (90th), .309 BA (T-92), .848 OPS, 1479 R (89th), 489 doubles (100th), 141 triples (T-56th), 180 HR, 1382 RBI (92nd), 139 SB, 79.9 WAR (49th) Gehringer didn't lead the league in many categories over his career, but he had a few. In 1929, he finished off a streak of 5 straight years with double digit triples by leading the league with a career high 18. He'd only hit double digits one more time in his career, however. In 1938, he led the league in the only other 3 categories of his career. He led in walks with 126, OPS at .955 and WAR with 7.0. Clearly the walks helped with the other two, but he also hit .309 with 109 R, 24 HR and 101 RBI. That was only one of two times he hit 20 or more HR....the other time being the following year in 1939 with 20. One amazing stat for Gehringer is that he drew 1313 walks in his career and only struck out 334 times. At age 38, he drew 119 walks and only struck out 17 times, so he held that skill for his whole career. Charlie was never a World Series champion, but won one Gold Glove, 6 Silver Sluggers, was named an All-Star 11 times and won one MVP award. In 1948, his first year on the HOF ballot, he was elected with 76.4% of the vote....a close call, but he is certainly a worthy member.
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Jimmie Foxx- Double X was the first overall pick in the 1923 draft by the Boston Red Sox. He debuted with them in 1924 at age 16 and played in Boston for his whole career. He retired in 1944 at age 36. While he played 280 games at 1B in his career, Foxx spent the vast majority of his career as a catcher. His numbers would have likely been much better if he had made the move to 1B as in real life.
That being said, here are Jimmie's Replay numbers- 8976 AB, 2800 H (77th), .312 BA (T-52nd), .919 OPS (13th), 1636 R (41st), 468 doubles, 129 triples (T-80th), 351 HR, 1561 RBI (57th), 105 SB, 115.7 WAR (13th) Despite being a catcher, and missing a number of games each year, Foxx still put up some big numbers. His power numbers were not at the level of his real life career, but he was still a force, especially at getting on base. He led the league in OBP 4 times, SLG twice and OPS 3 times. His best season looks to be 1938 when he hit .329/.457/.613, 115 runs, 26 doubles, 5 triples, 32 HR, 109 RBI, 3 SB and 8.4 WAR in 465 AB. The 32 HR was his career high, as was his SLG and OPS. One place where being a catcher helped Foxx was in the awards he collected. He only won a single championship, but was a 13-time Silver Slugger, 15-time All-Star and 4-time MVP. In his great 1930 season, he hit 3 HR in a game against the A's. In 1937, he had a 25 game hitting streak. It's no surprise that he received 95.5% of the votes in his first year on the HOF ballot and was an easy choice as an inductee.
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Mel Ott- Master Melvin was drafted by the Boston Red Sox with the first pick of the 1925 draft.....two years after drafting Jimmie Foxx. Not a bad couple of picks! Ott debuted with the Red Sox in 1926 as a 17 year old and stayed with them until he retired in 1947.
Mel's numbers were- 10438 AB (38th), 3024 H (44th), .290 BA, .854 OPS (90th), 1803 R (27th), 475 doubles, 67 triples, 384 HR (T-72nd), 1695 RBI (36th), 86 SB, 102.8 WAR (25th) Ott never quite became the big HR hitter he did in real life, but he was a consistent 20-25 HR guy who scored and drove in a lot of runs. He hit over 20 HR 11 times, with a high of 28. He scored 100+ runs 8 times and drove in 100+ 6 times. His best season was probably 1930, as a 21 year old. That year, he hit .354/.461/.586, 120 R, 44 doubles, 6 triples, 23 HR, 108 RBI, 9 SB, 7.8 WAR. He had a similar season the year before. One interesting story! His career was pretty consistent up until 1943 when he suffered a pretty bad elbow injury that kept him out about a month and a half....then another two weeks due to a set back. He missed another two weeks due to a "tired arm", but the elbow was suspected. He only hit .213 that year and at age 34, people thought he was near the end. The following season, he played a pretty full season, but only hit .261 with 15 HR....the whispers of him being done increased. Then, in 1945, at age 36, he proved everyone wrong! He came back to hit .307/.409/.505, 76 R, 27 doubles, 1 triple, a league leading 25 HR and 100 RBI, and a league leading 7.7 WAR. His next season he hit .270, but still with a .400 OBP....then in his last season, he only played in 11 games and went 1-3. That 1945 season was a great way to show he would go out on his own terms, though. Award-wise, Ott was certainly highly honored. He won one World Series and was named Playoff MVP. He won 9 Gold Glove Awards (most we've seen so far!), 6 Silver Sluggers, was a 6-time All-Star and was named MVP once. Obviously, he had a sure-fire HOF career and was voted in with 97.9% of the vote in his first year.
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Harry Heilmann- Harry was drafted by the Philadelphia Phillies with the first pick of the 1912 draft. He played his first season in 1913 at age 18 and stayed with the Phillies until he retired in 1932....that is a little misleading, as he only played one game and had one at bat that year, so for all intents and purposes, his last season was really 1931. Even that was about a half season.
Heilmann's numbers were- 9421 AB, 3052 H (42nd), .324 BA (19th), .873 OPS (44th), 1516 R (78th), 622 doubles (21st), 133 triples (T-70th), 190 HR, 1488 RBI (64th), 150 SB, 70.7 WAR (85th) Harry's Replay numbers were on par with his real life numbers, other than BA, and in some ways they were even better. He led the league in batting 4 times, OBP 4 times, SLG 3 times and OPS 3 times. His 62 doubles in 1930 is tied for the 3rd most of all time. Heilmann's power numbers are an interesting aspect of his career. His first two seasons, he led the league each year with 12. Then he didn't hit double digits until 5 years later. Then he went on a 4 year streak of 10, 19, 20, 14....followed by 5 more years of single digit HRs. He then had two more double digit years near the end of his career with 13 in 1929 and 21 in 1930 (same year as his 62 doubles). His best overall season is a little hard to determine, but I'll go with 1923. That year, he hit .377/.464/.587, 104 R, 31 doubles, 13 triples, 14 HR, 84 RBI, 13 SB and 6.1 WAR. He led the league in BA, OBP, SLG and obviously OPS. He also set career highs in OBP and SLG. His career high in batting was in 1925 when he hit .391. Harry also had seasons where he hit .389, .361, .356 (twice) and .351. I totally missed this my first time posting, but Harry missed the whole 1916 season with a torn PCL. He suffered the injury on 8/12/1915 and was projected to be out for 9 months. In February of 1916, it was announced that he had a setback and would require surgery....so he was out an additional 12 months. He clearly recovered well, although that 1917 season when he returned, he "only" hit .290 and had probably his worst season overall. He won 4 World Series with the Phillies. Individually, he won 1 Gold Glove, 7 Silver Sluggers, and he was named an All-Star 12 times. His WAR totals were all relatively low for the offensive seasons he had, so I think that may have hurt his MVP chances. His highest WAR numbers were in the 6.3-5.8 range....based on that he must not have done well int he field, but he somehow snuck a Gold Glove in there! Not surprisingly, however, he was inducted into the HOF in his first year with 95.6% of the vote.
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Paul Waner- Big Poison started his career by being signed by the San Francisco Seals in 1922. Just two months after his signing, the Boston Braves purchased his contract. Waner had his debut with them the following year at age 20 and played for the Braves until his retirement in 1943 at age 40. Paul's numbers were- 9225 AB, 2896 H (57th), .314 BA (43rd), .817 OPS, 1333 R, 572 doubles (40th), 159 triples (T-37th), 73 HR, 1254 RBI, 101 SB, 60.8 WAR Waner was a great hitter, no doubt. Despite not being in the top 100 in AB, he was 57th all-time in hits. He actually started his career as a bench player his first 3 years, but, in 1925, after hitting .371 with a .946 OPS in 280 AB, he earned a full-time role. However, he would only reach that level of OPS one other time in his career and the .371 average would be his highest. His best full season was 1927. That year he hit .350/.420/.531, 80 R, a league leading (and career high) 49 doubles, 15 triples, 8 HR, 110 RBI (the only time he had 100 or more), 3 SB and 6.4 WAR. Amazingly, he only struck out 7 times that season in 662 plate appearances. Waner was never a World Series champion. However, he won the Rookie of the Year, 3 Gold Gloves, 3 Silver Sluggers, and was named to 7 All-Star teams. His Hall of Fame voting may be among the most controversial we've seen. He remained on the ballot 10 years, but missed out in his final year with 70.9% of the vote. In many ways, he seems like a HOF player, but he didn't hit any of the major milestones, never won a championship and his OPS and WAR totals were not at the level of other HOFers to this point. We'll see if anyone else gets named that makes Waner being left out look even worse.
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Chief Bender- Bender was the #2 overall pick in the 1902 draft by the Boston Beaneaters. He played his first season with them in 1903 at age 19. He stayed in Boston until 1915 when he was traded to the Yankees, along with OF Tim Hendryx, for OF Ward Miller and 3B Fred Thomas. He stayed with the Yankees, pitching in a very limited role (20-30 IP or so each season), for the next 3 years until he retired after his 1918 season at age 34.
Bender's numbers were- 236-224 (45th in wins), 22 Saves, 4122.2 IP (42nd), 2.50 ERA (24th), 1.22 WHIP, 2257 K (T-73rd), 4.9 K/9, 80.8 WAR (26th) Bender was one of the worst luck pitchers in the game. He led the league in losses twice, despite ERAs of 2.14 and 2.39 in those seasons. He often pitched 15-20 games in relief in addition to his 39ish starts per season many years. In 1910, he led the league in saves, with 6, when he also started 38 games. Picking his best season is tough, as he had 4 or so seasons that were all very good (other than his record) and very similar. I'll go with his 1905 season as an example- 21-20, 360.2 IP, 2.05 ERA, 1.04 WHIP, 238 Ks, 8.2 WAR. Chief was also tied for 5th in Shut Outs for his career with 52. Chief won 1 World Series, was named to 7 All-Star teams and won the Cy Young Award once. Despite only pitching full time for about 12 seasons, and despite having such bad luck record-wise, Bender was voted into the HOF in his first year with 87.1% of the vote.
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Dizzy Dean- Dizzy was drafted by the Brooklyn Robins with the 9th overall pick of the 1929 draft, but did not sign with them. He was drafted again in 1930 by the Browns with the 6th overall pick and decided to sign with them. He made his debut with them in 1931 as a 21 year old and remained in St Louis until 1940. That was his last action in the Majors, although he stuck around in the minors for 5 more years, mostly as a relief pitcher, but never had enough success to be brought back up.
Dean's numbers looked like this- 138-129, 4 Saves, 2441.1 IP, 4.02 ERA, 1.40 WHIP, 1132 K, 4.2 K/9, 47.3 WAR As you can tell from the numbers, Dizzy was not the same kind of pitcher he was in real life. He did put together one really good season in 1936- 24-7, 291.2 IP, 2.84 ERA, 1.24 WHIP, 147 K, 8.2 WAR. He led the league in wins, ERA, WHIP and WAR that year. Dean did win two World Series, was named to 3 All-Star teams and won the Cy Young in his one great season. That was about it for him, as he was not even given any consideration for the HOF.
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"The baseball mania has run its course. It has no future as a professional endeavor." Cincinnati Gazette editorial, 1879 |
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