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1966 World Series Recap
Game 1 in Los Angeles Sandy Koufax (20-8, 1.86) v Jim Kaat (19-6, 3.16) Could there be a better way to start off this 1966 World Series than with a matchup between two of the premiere southpaws in the game right now, with Sandy Koufax taking on Jim Kaat. Will this one live up to its pitchers’ duel billing or, as is so often the case, morph into something entirely different? Most decidedly the former, as Koufax is almost unhittable and Kaat the unlucky 1-0 loser. The Twins do in fact get 3 hits off the great man - who goes the distance - but none lead to a run, and in the end it is Tommy Harper’s RBI double in the 6th that holds up as the game’s only score. ![]() Game 2 in Los Angeles Don Sutton (16-10, 2.49) v Stan Bahnsen (13-14, 3.34) Dodgers lead series 1-0 Stan “Bahnsen Burner” Bahnsen kind of came out of nowhere in his fine rookie season, with little fanfare before or during. That wasn’t quite the case with Don “Black & Decker” Sutton, partially because of his Legacy Player status but also because of the club he plays for. This one should come down to which of these two tyros handles the occasion best. In fact, both acquit themselves impressively but the Dodgers extend their series lead thanks to a 7th-inning rally in which they score both their runs in a 2-1 win. Just six hits apiece and 10 combined LOB, so this was a really well-pitched game with few scoring chances. As is almost invariably how it works, the victors took more of theirs than the vanquished and now head to the twin cities in a strong position. ![]() Game 3 in Minneapolis Barry Moore (19-8, 2.74) v Dean Chance (12-10, 3.13) Dodgers lead series 2-0 Barry Moore was actually a Dodger last year and showed plenty of promise, and he delivered on that for the Twins in a fine sophomore campaign. Meanwhile, the Dodgers are Dean Chance’s third club with him still only 25. Once again, this looks very evenly-matched on the mound. The Twins need Killebrew, Oliva and Allison to come to life here before this series slips from their grasp entirely. No dice I’m afraid as the superlative pitching continues and Chance (with some help from Hal Reniff in the 9th) delivers the Dodgers another shutout win. Only 10 hits all up in this one as the purists are getting one for the ages and LA moves to within a win of their prize. ![]() Game 4 in Minneapolis Larry Jackson (12-15, 4.00) v Don Drysdale (18-11, 3.19) Dodgers lead series 3-0 Talk about daunting and imposing challenges as the Twins have to get past man-mountain Don Drysdale if they want to keep the series alive. They could do worse than have Larry Jackson on the mound for them, with three Championship rings including a couple with us in the late 50s and the other with his current club a few years back. More guile needed now than back then for LJ, but still that experience is priceless with the pressure as high as it is here. And so it proves to be as he keeps the Dodgers in check and the Twins bats finally come alive with a strong rally over the late frames as Drysdale flags to lock down a 6-1 win and avoid the sweep. Jackson allows just one run on 7 hits over 7 and Ruben Amaro and Ed Charles each knock in a pair for the winners. ![]() Game 5 in Cincinnati Jim Kaat (0-1, 1.12) v Sandy Koufax (1-0, 0.00) Dodgers lead series 3-1 Much easier said than done, but you’d have to think that if they can get the win here against Koufax then at least the Twins will have made the Dodgers work for this and perhaps even just send a little shiver of panic down their collective spine. It would certainly set up a big finish back in LA. In the end, however, Sandy is almost a non-factor as the Dodger bats get to Kaat early and eventually score in five of the first six innings en route to a cruisy 7-1 clinching win. All the same, "The Left Arm of God goes" all nine again and deservedly takes home the MVP Award. A fitting end to a season that has seen some outstanding pitching from go to whoa. ![]() ![]() S+ HOME REPORTS HOME PIRATES HOME
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1966 Offseason
INS & OUTS
Just one Manager - Atlanta's Lloyd Christopher - along with Cards GM Joey Landers are out of a job. ROSTER MOVES More dead weight cut loose with Bob Friend, Al Jackson, Bill Virdon and Dick Schofield let walk, while Al Luplow, Bo Belinsky and Al McBean all off to arbitration. SIM ACCURACY ![]() ![]() HANGIN' THEM UP A fairly low-key bunch of retirees with Robin Roberts the only outside chance of getting a call from the Hall. ![]()
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1966 MLB Awards
AL 1966 HISTORY INDEX
NL 1966 HISTORY INDEX AWARDS HISTORY Wagner-Lajoie Medals to first-time winners Rico Petrocelli and Ron Santo. Another first-timer is AL Johnson-Waddell recipient Mike Cuellar while Sandy Koufax wins his 4th. The RoYs go to Jake Gibbs and Don Sutton, with Paige Plates handed out to two more maiden winners in Jim McGlothin and Jay Ritchie. And finally, our Gene Alley is rewarded for his nice run with the bat over recent years with the Ruth-Gibson at SS. S+ HOME REPORTS HOME PIRATES HOME
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The Wheeling and the Dealing
Still had a trade ticket up my sleeve for '66 (maybe even two, I can't remember now...) and have decided to use it to declutter our OF and earn back one of the three Cutlass Club slots with a trade that the fans are not fans of:
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1966/67 Rookie Draft
Seven new Legacy Players, with three of them Marquees. One of the best bunches we’ve seen for a while, and we get one of our We Are Family era cult heroes into the bargain.
These are the Legacy Players for the 1967 Season: Cincinnati Reds: Johnny Bench (75.1; 2158 100% MARQUEE) Minnesota Twins: Rod Carew (81.2; 1635 66% MARQUEE) New York Mets: Tom Seaver (109.9; 395 GS 60% MARQUEE) Houston Astros: Joe Niekro (29.7; 301) Kansas City Athletics: Reggie Jackson (73.9; 1346) New York Yankees: Graig Nettles (67.9; 1535) Pittsburgh Pirates: Manny Sanguillen (27.6; 1296) Jerry Koosman (53.7; 346 GS) was also eligible for the Mets, but Seaver’s higher WAR makes him the selection. Gary Nolan (25.9; 247 GS) was also eligible for the Reds, but Bench’s higher WAR makes him the selection. Amos Otis (42.8; 1891 GP) would have been eligible for the Royals, except they aren’t in the league yet. I did NOT see that one coming… There are 115 rookies for this season, and the Draft will consist of 5 rounds. The Draft order will be as follows (winning percentage from 1966 IRL season in brackets; bold indicates Legacy Pick in 1st Round): Round 1 1. New York Mets (410) 2. Minnesota Twins (549) 3. Cincinnati Reds (475) 4. Kansas City Athletics (463) 5. New York Yankees (440) 6. Houston Astros (444; dice roll) 7. Pittsburgh Pirates (568) 8. Chicago Cubs (364) 9. Boston Red Sox (444; dice roll) 10. Washington Senators (447) 11. California Angels (494) 12. Cleveland Indians (500) 13. St. Louis Cardinals (512; dice roll) 14. Chicago White Sox (512; dice roll) 15. Atlanta Braves (525) 16. Philadelphia Phillies (537) 17. Detroit Tigers (543) 18. San Francisco Giants (578) 19. Los Angeles Dodgers (586) 20. Baltimore Orioles (606) Rounds 2 thru 5 1. Chicago Cubs (364) 2. New York Mets (410) 3. New York Yankees (440) 4. Boston Red Sox (444; dice roll) 5. Houston Astros (444; dice roll) 6. Washington Senators (447) 7. Kansas City Athletics (463) 8. Cincinnati Reds (475) 9. California Angels (494) 10. Cleveland Indians (500) 11. St. Louis Cardinals (512; dice roll) 12. Chicago White Sox (512; dice roll) 13. Atlanta Braves (525) 14. Philadelphia Phillies (537) 15. Detroit Tigers (543) 16. Minnesota Twins (549) 17. Pittsburgh Pirates (568) 18. San Francisco Giants (578) 19. Los Angeles Dodgers (586) 20. Baltimore Orioles (606) Eligible PIT players: 6 position players + 4 pitchers = 10. That long gap between our first and second picks was always going to be problematic, but we didn’t anticipate 8 of the 9 eligible players being taken in that time, leaving us with little to do other than stock up on some trade bait and organisational filler. Which we did, as follows: 1. C Manny Sanguillen, 22
5. P Nestor Chavez, 19 (ineligible)
The Torrez get was the difference-maker here, otherwise it would have been another so-so Draft for us. FULL DRAFT LOG ![]()
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Call from the Hall
Teddy Ballgame cruises in first go as expected, with Bob Feller making up about half of the necessary ground with three tries left.
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The Wheeling and the Dealing
Truth be told, I was hoping this post would be to report the acquisition of someone else. All the same, we're very happy with the guy we end up with, even if he isn't our first choice.
![]() Woodie played for our club IRL right at the very beginning of his MLB career in the season just past and the one to come. He's a really solid upper-mid rotational piece with plenty of TC years left who went 13-14 / 4.12 in his rookie year here, and will go at SP3 for us this season. ![]()
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1967 The First Time Around
The Red Sox’s Impossible Dream season sees the Bostonites, carried on Yaz’s Triple Crown-winning performance, charge home down the stretch, only to – as so many Red Sox challenges had over those drought-ridden years – come up one step shy of glory as the 101-game-winning Cards beat them in an excruciating seven-gamer.
AL CHAMPIONS: Boston Red Sox (92-70) NL CHAMPIONS: St. Louis Cardinals (101-60) WORLD SERIES: Cardinals 4, Red Sox 3 Pittsburgh Pirates: 81-81, 6th in NL AL MVP: Carl Yastrzemski (Red Sox) NL MVP: Orlando Cepeda (Cardinals) AL CYA: Jim Lonborg (Red Sox) NL CYA: Mike McCormick (Giants) AL RoY: Rod Carew (Twins) NL RoY: Tom Seaver (Mets) Top Ten Lists (courtesy of thisgreatgame.com) NL Hitters 1. HANK AARON, ATLANTA
AL Hitters 1. CARL YASTRZEMSKI, BOSTON
NL Pitchers 1. GAYLORD PERRY, SAN FRANCISCO
AL Pitchers 1. JOE HORLEN, CHICAGO
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1967 Preseason / Spring Training
One of the busier offseason trade markets in some time, with players and cash flying all over the joint.
Here’s where they all landed:
We go 11-7 in ST with reliever Grant Jackson a short-term casualty. ALL TRANSACTIONS It's odd, I really like some of the moves the Mets have been making but the BNN boys have picked them last - we'll see who got that one right. They have us pegged in mid-standings mediocrity due mainly once again to some ordinary pitching, with the Giants and Red Sox their favoured clubs this time around. FULL PRESEASON PREDICTIONS ![]()
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The View from the Gangplank Opening Day, 1967
A reminder that our team page can be accessed HERE.
I'm pleased with the progress we have made over the break and feel we are on the way to getting our legs back underneath us. Still, we've taken necessary steps back in certain areas as well that mean we'll be happy to hit 500 or thereabouts this season. We pick up Dave Wickersham (and a few others) on cheap MILB options deals, as well as a couple more on the Waiver Wire. He'll get a chance to strut his stuff at SP5 with Camilo Pascual relegated to the pen for now. We are keen to move on wherever we can, as will likely be the case here and I wouldn't be surprised to see the mighty Patata spending a fair chunk of his final season with us down at AAA. We've also called up Paul Popovich for his first go around in The Show, with his positional coverage and switch-hitting making him slightly preferable to Dal Maxvill at this stage. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Cutlass Club Update 1967
We'll be looking to tighten this right up with a few multi-year deals for some of the guys, while others will walk. As mentioned earlier, we will have two CC slots free as of next year, intervening roster moves notwithstanding.
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It's all part of the challenge I have set myself. But it is far from perfect, and will need some tinkering in the not-too-distant future. The big issue here is an unfair inability under the current rules for us to enjoy early career league-min and arb years because we have to trade so many ineligible players away. That will really start being overly onerous as Free-Agency really comes alive and salaries start to spiral in the next decade or so. I have toyed with the idea of replicating MLB historical Drafts but that won't work with the Legacy / Marquee Players feature, which I want to keep. I think in the end, the simplest and most effective way is simply to increase the Cutlass Club membership to four or five from its current three. That'll allow me to at least keep some of the guys we draft past the first non-trade year. Anyhow, I'm enjoying trying to jump these hurdles and I hope it is making for some interesting reading for those along for the ride. G
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Different Horses
In stark contrast to his controversial trade across to Baltimore, the AI GM in this timeline has no problem with Frank Robinson at 31 and the Reds sign him on for an additional stretch at big moolah.
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Dag Nabbit
Things were going OK for a while there...
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Jim's Got Lefebvre
Not something he ever managed IRL, but in this timeline Jim Lefebvre hits for the cycle against the Halos in a 7-4 Red Sox victory.
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The View from the Gangplank June 1, 1967
A nice strong start from the lads although I'm not sure how much petrol we've used up in the process, with a host of close and late and walkoff wins among our 28 to this point. Still, we'll take it.
![]() ![]() You can see those nailbiters among the stats: 19 of 47 decided by one run, with another 6 needing spares and our record in the two a fortuitous 16-9. ![]() Arriba has flown out the gate and must consider himself unlucky not to win one of the two monthly awards from this first stanza (both go to rampaging Frank Robinson, with Rico Petrocelli doing likewise in the AL). Maz is on the cusp of being sent down to AAA with only injuries to Dal Maxvill down there and Bob Bailey at the big club saving his bacon for now. ![]() We know that this season is mainly going to be about avoiding a total meltdown on the pitching side of things - and, so far, so good in that regard. Both sets of standings remain relatively cluttered entering June. ![]() Monthly Award Winners April American League
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The Wheeling and the Dealing
As reality starts to nibble and we drop off the pace again, I feel it is the right time to pull the trigger on a trade I was always convinced I'd end up making this year. About the outgoing part of the transaction, at any rate; the incoming took plenty of thought plus a bunch of negotiation (loving that hard mode for trading, it is a winner) before we ended up settling on this swap:
![]() We have committed to Bobby Tolan as our CF of the future and Matty was looking for upward of $200k p.a - way too much for what moving forward would be a fourth OF / injury replacement role. At the same time, our pitching is dire again and I really wanted to try get an affordable guy with plenty of talent into our staff. To wit, Denny was our second preference, and when we ran the deal including Bob Miller past the Phils and they only asked for Schwall to get it done, we bit. ![]() Denny of course won the 1962 Johnson-Waddell and posted an excellent 4 WAR last season. He never played for us IRL, so he'll fill the vacant CC3 spot. He's signed on a fairly friendly deal thru 1971. ![]() This will be Bob's second go-around for us after being a Bucco from 1960-65. He played for us IRL in 1971/2. His current contract runs thru 1968. Ted Savage, who we claimed off waivers earlier in the season, comes up. When Bob Bailey returns from the IL in a month or so, the plan is to shift Helms to the everyday 2B role, send Maz to AAA and keep Freese up to be the backup corner IF until we sort out something better. Patata also goes to Wilkes-Barre. Hey, it's not show friends, you know... Oh, and this trade reunites two of the Alou brothers after we of course traded Moises there previously.
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Y2k Arriba!
What a season Roberto Clemente is having for us - still above 400 almost at the halfway point with nigh on 5 bWAR to his credit already, and this is another happy memory for the year added by the great man.
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