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[Argonaut]

Originally Posted by joehart

Great approach to learn about the various pitchers.
We usually end up with the same ones over and over (MOV/CON/STU) and never learn about the other "hidden" gems that perform well despite having totally different stats.

Yeah MOV/CON/STU is definitely the meta, but interestingly that combination is not among my 3. I like that I have a whole different set of pitchers to choose from across my teams like you say. My thought is that I value Stuff higher in a hitter's park and Control higher in a pitcher's park. But I may be overthinking it.

Originally Posted by Goliathus

Could be me, but I am not saying "there's no strategy", just the stats are too little and boring. When I find a fielder I have fun looking at all the aspects from fielding, running and batting. Even just batting alone you have all kinds of variety like pure contact, gap contact, walker, HR machine and so on. I enjoy looking at them and comparing them on the AH.


Pitching...it's just three stats to check first. Hold runner, stamina and pitching profile are important too, but I always look at the big three first. Three is just too boring to me, despite they are enough to have pitcher types like high stuff, finesse pitcher and so on. I always wished if speed, arm slot and pitching type have more significant impacts in the sim. Like I want a submarine pitcher to have sim impact, and not just "I want him because I think submarine is dope" and he pretty much has the same sim impact as a from the top pitcher will the same stats.


Also, screw your Vikings, they continue to chop up my Armada and build houses with it. I think my team is just screwed on a hitter's ballpark.

Yeah I agree there could be more to explore with pitchers for sure. I have a suspicion that pitch types don't do anything besides affecting Stuff. That's definitely a missed opportunity for deeper analysis/strategy.

I just made some big investments into the Vikings at the All-Star break with some saved up PP from achievements and player sales. Have about 3 placeholder players still left to replace and then they'll be setup nicely for a deep run this year. We're taking no prisoners as we loot and pillage Iron League.

[Goliathus]

Originally Posted by Argonaut

Yeah MOV/CON/STU is definitely the meta, but interestingly that combination is not among my 3. I like that I have a whole different set of pitchers to choose from across my teams like you say. My thought is that I value Stuff higher in a hitter's park and Control higher in a pitcher's park. But I may be overthinking it.

Yeah I agree there could be more to explore with pitchers for sure. I have a suspicion that pitch types don't do anything besides affecting Stuff. That's definitely a missed opportunity for deeper analysis/strategy.

I just made some big investments into the Vikings at the All-Star break with some saved up PP from achievements and player sales. Have about 3 placeholder players still left to replace and then they'll be setup nicely for a deep run this year. We're taking no prisoners as we loot and pillage Iron League.

I thought Movement is more important in hitter's park because you don't want to give up too many homeruns? I would say stuff is important if you have a horrible fielding team because you really don't want your fielding to be tested, you would rather just strike people the F out. I think control is definitely valuable in pitcher's park because BB can hurt you a lot.

Until there are proof, I am going to continue to ignore the pitch types and all the fluff details. I think they are fun for imagination in the standard OOTP game but they serve no purpose in the cutthroat mode of PT.

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Everyone, what do you all do with your batter bench? I am quite clueless about this even until now, like I don't know what I am looking for for them. Obviously, I will need a backup for all positions but after that, what do you all look for? I have a relic of a player in 57 Edgar Renteria that I really want to upgrade. Dude is just a filler because I am out of time on Sunday before my first OL season. I was like, ah darn it, this dude looks like a cheap pinch runner and I was speed-oriented so I took him as a pinch runner only. I feel like I could probably get more use of a roster slot than that now that I have the money and dude's not really giving me a lot of value from pinch running -- this season he's horrible with 0 SB and 3 CS.

[OMGPuppies]

Originally Posted by Goliathus

I thought Movement is more important in hitter's park because you don't want to give up too many homeruns? I would say stuff is important if you have a horrible fielding team because you really don't want your fielding to be tested, you would rather just strike people the F out. I think control is definitely valuable in pitcher's park because BB can hurt you a lot.

Until there are proof, I am going to continue to ignore the pitch types and all the fluff details. I think they are fun for imagination in the standard OOTP game but they serve no purpose in the cutthroat mode of PT.

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Everyone, what do you all do with your batter bench? I am quite clueless about this even until now, like I don't know what I am looking for for them. Obviously, I will need a backup for all positions but after that, what do you all look for? I have a relic of a player in 57 Edgar Renteria that I really want to upgrade. Dude is just a filler because I am out of time on Sunday before my first OL season. I was like, ah darn it, this dude looks like a cheap pinch runner and I was speed-oriented so I took him as a pinch runner only. I feel like I could probably get more use of a roster slot than that now that I have the money and dude's not really giving me a lot of value from pinch running -- this season he's horrible with 0 SB and 3 CS.

for the bench, you might want to include a pinchrunner, or players than can platoon. Maybe it would be better if we didn't have the DH. That would free up an extra roster spot.

[Stanley Kuppchaser]

The Black Bears set the pace, but the race seems like it could go down to the wire, with the teams tightly bunched.

[Stanley Kuppchaser]

Seattle slipped a little more, opening up the race. There are enough late season games on the schedule to set up a (hopefully) heated chase for the crown.

[stl jason]

Originally Posted by Stanley Kuppchaser

The Black Bears set the pace, but the race seems like it could go down to the wire, with the teams tightly bunched.

left chart is off for Shasta... they should be on top at 15-11

[Stanley Kuppchaser]

Originally Posted by stl jason

left chart is off for Shasta... they should be on top at 15-11

Yeah, it's a typo I missed on my way out the door. The bottom chart is correct.

[Edster007]

I234 through July 31st.

[Charlatan]

Defenders hold onto a slim lead, but Frankenthal is right on their tail! There's enough OL games being played that any team that has a great month could step up.

Our League Standings - B270 - Aug 1, 2030			
			 W	 L	 Pct
Redmond Defenders	20	14	.588
Frankenthal Retros	21	15	.583
Motown Stars		24	20	.545
Auckland Athletics	14	12	.538
Ozark Bobcats		17	15	.531
DB Pickleballers	20	23	.465
Little Rock Crayons	20	23	.465
Philadelphia Patriots	12	18	.400
Chi-Town Towers		13	21	.382


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[Charlatan]

Here's a question for you baseball experts. Annandale is 1st in Batting AVG, 1st in On Base PCT, 1st in OPS, but 10th in Runs Scored. What does that indicate to you? Lack of power (we are 28th in HRs)? They're doing well so I'm not super worried about it, but it strikes me as odd. Think that's just a short-term oddity or is there really something going on here?

[Findest2001]

[QUOTE=Charlatan;4501553]Here's a question for you baseball experts. Annandale is 1st in Batting AVG, 1st in On Base PCT, 1st in OPS, but 10th in Runs Scored. What does that indicate to you? Lack of power (we are 28th in HRs)? They're doing well so I'm not super worried about it, but it strikes me as odd. Think that's just a short-term oddity or is there really something going on here?[/QUOT

It is simply when and how they get on base the most. Probably lacking in XBH and AVG w/RISP. That's my guess. Not all baserunners score. In fact many do not. I wouldn't worry about it if you're winning. Your pitching is helping and the runs will come around I expect.

[Goliathus]

Originally Posted by Charlatan

Here's a question for you baseball experts. Annandale is 1st in Batting AVG, 1st in On Base PCT, 1st in OPS, but 10th in Runs Scored. What does that indicate to you? Lack of power (we are 28th in HRs)? They're doing well so I'm not super worried about it, but it strikes me as odd. Think that's just a short-term oddity or is there really something going on here?

I think the biggest thing is surely lack of power. HRs are the only thing that give you guaranteed runs. Without that, your team might just have bad luck of closing the deal and have too many LOBs. I would consider adjusting the lineup, maybe have two sets of high OBP for 1st two slots and then two sets of high .AVG with scorer on base(I think that's a trackable stat in the game? Not too sure; if not, then high RBI). So the batting order goes OBP-OBP-RBI-RBI-OBP-OBP-RBI-RBI-9th. Or maybe three sets, OBP-OBP-RBI-OBP-OBP-RBI-OBP-OBP-RBI.

I don't think 10th is that bad if you are measuring all 30 teams. The 9 above you could be hard hitting teams.

[atabakin]

Haven't seen a Diamond update in a while.

EB 7-9 (GL 1-3, Luck 5-4, Vir 1-2)
GL 11-6 (EB 3-1, Luck 1-2, Sea 3-1, Trans 4-2)
Luck 8-10 (EB 4-5, GL 2-1, Vir 2-4)
Sea 5-11 (GL 1-3, Trans 4-8)
Trans 10-8 (GL 2-4, Sea 8-4)
Vir 6-3 (EB 2-1, Luck 4-2)

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by Charlatan

Here's a question for you baseball experts. Annandale is 1st in Batting AVG, 1st in On Base PCT, 1st in OPS, but 10th in Runs Scored. What does that indicate to you? Lack of power (we are 28th in HRs)? They're doing well so I'm not super worried about it, but it strikes me as odd. Think that's just a short-term oddity or is there really something going on here?

I do not know the strengths of your underlying ratings of your hitters. But, you may look at their sacrifice bunting, contact and K ratings to look for hit and run guys, and of course base stealing. many people ignore these things when trying to improve their run production without HR power. Then adjust your strategy accordingly.

Edit: Do not forget the individual strategies when you adjust.

[Charlatan]

I always set sac bunting as low as possible. Sacrifice bunting is evil!

Interesting thoughts on strategy though. My team is surprisingly slow for being so good at defense. That surprises me.

[allenciox]

Originally Posted by Charlatan View Post
Here's a question for you baseball experts. Annandale is 1st in Batting AVG, 1st in On Base PCT, 1st in OPS, but 10th in Runs Scored. What does that indicate to you? Lack of power (we are 28th in HRs)? They're doing well so I'm not super worried about it, but it strikes me as odd. Think that's just a short-term oddity or is there really something going on here?

So I don't think it has to do with power --- the Energizer Bunnies have exactly the same setup as you (except we are usually 30th in HR). Yet up until season before last, we were usually first in all the above, including runs.

It could be do to a combination of the following:

1. Bad luck
2. Maybe the top ten teams are really close in the above statistics, and you just happen to be tenth in runs.
3. Poor strategy settings for baserunning, base stealing. If you are trying a lot of stealing and failing, that could explain it (or getting thrown out on base paths a lot).
4. Having players that have much lower settings for stealing, base running, and speed than the other top teams. Or you could have players that are speedy but poor base stealers. There is an indication that players that are speedy will try to steal bases even when you don't want them to, and get caught more often. You can try to use individual strategy settings to have "some" control over this. Also low speed + groundball hitters will result in more double plays.
5. Maybe you have fewer innings than the other teams... all the stats you listed above except runs scored are independent of the number of innings played by your offense, but if you haven't played many extra-innings games, or ended a lot of games without batting in bottom of ninth, that will result in fewer runs scored, of course.

[STLRS95]

Just to let you all know, Keefe is in the auction house incase any of you want to bid on him. Auction ends tonight around 11PM EST. Is currently at 100K.

[Argonaut]

Originally Posted by Goliathus

I thought Movement is more important in hitter's park because you don't want to give up too many homeruns? I would say stuff is important if you have a horrible fielding team because you really don't want your fielding to be tested, you would rather just strike people the F out. I think control is definitely valuable in pitcher's park because BB can hurt you a lot.

Well, yeah it depends what kind of hitters park it is. The Vikings prioritize MOV as #1 and STU #2, as the park favours both HR and AVG. Cowboys prioritize STU as #1 as the park favours only AVG. My thinking is I don't want the ball in play. Also, I like power pitchers and I think they're fun... they're half-decent for achievements too.

[stl jason]

Originally Posted by STLRS95

Just to let you all know, Keefe is in the auction house incase any of you want to bid on him. Auction ends tonight around 11PM EST. Is currently at 100K.

perfect fit for my old timey team....


anyone wanna spot me 95K so I can pick this one up?

(assuming it doesn't shoot up even higher, of course)

[Argonaut]

A bit risky setting the starting bid so low? Hope you get a good haul for Keefe!