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Now we just need the Indians to win one, they are the only foundation club yet to do so.
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1976/77 Rookie Draft & Legacy Players
Loads going on with the new clubs and the ED and a unique decision I have made each coming into play. In all of which, just five new Legacies are entering the league.
Now, with regard to Trammell and Sweet Lou Whitaker, I’m pulling the Commish Card here and giving both of them to Detroit – I just can’t face the thought of such an iconic DP combo not playing together. Watch the Tigers go trade one or both of them now. They don’t get either Lance Parrish (39.5; 1146) or Jack Morris (43.5; 408 GS), each of whom is also eligible. That is, of course, unless they manage to do so by natural means. I have adapted the Draft Order to cater for this. These are the Legacy Players for the 1977 Season: Baltimore Orioles: Eddie Murray (68.6; 1884) Cincinnati Reds: Mario Soto (25.8; 224 GS – one-club player) Detroit Tigers: Lou Whitaker (75.1; 2390 – one-club player) MARQUEE + Alan Trammell (70.6; 2293 – one-club player) MARQUEE Houston Astros: Terry Puhl (28.3; 1516) There are 223 rookies for this season (including some MiLBer holdovers from last season), and the Draft will consist of 8 rounds, remembering there are now 26 clubs in the league. The Draft order will be as follows (winning percentage from 1976 IRL season in brackets; bold indicates Legacy Pick in 1st Round): Round 1 1. Detroit Tigers (460) 2. Detroit Tigers (460) 3. Baltimore Orioles (543) 4. Houston Astros (494) 5. Cincinnati Reds (630) 6. Toronto Blue Jays 7. Seattle Mariners 8. Montreal Expos (340) 9. Chicago White Sox (398) 10. Milwaukee Brewers (410) 11. Atlanta Braves (432) 12. St. Louis Cardinals (444) 13. San Diego Padres (451) 14. San Francisco Giants (457) 15. Chicago Cubs (463) 16. Texas Rangers (469; dice roll) 17. California Angels (469; dice roll) 18. Cleveland Indians (509) 19. Boston Red Sox (512) 20. Minnesota Twins (525) 21. New York Mets (531) 22. Oakland Athletics (540) 23. Kansas City Royals (556) 24. Los Angeles Dodgers (568; dice roll) 25. Pittsburgh Pirates (568; dice roll) 26. New York Yankees (610) Round 2 1. Philadelphia Phillies (623) 2. Toronto Blue Jays 3. Seattle Mariners 4. Montreal Expos (340) 5. Chicago White Sox (398) 6. Milwaukee Brewers (410) 7. Atlanta Braves (432) 8. St. Louis Cardinals (444) 9. San Diego Padres (451) 10. San Francisco Giants (457) 11. Chicago Cubs (463) 12. Texas Rangers (469; dice roll) 13. California Angels (469; dice roll) 14. Houston Astros (494) 15. Cleveland Indians (509) 16. Boston Red Sox (512) 17. Minnesota Twins (525) 18. New York Mets (531) 19. Oakland Athletics (540) 20. Baltimore Orioles (543) 21. Kansas City Royals (556) 22. Los Angeles Dodgers (568; dice roll) 23. Pittsburgh Pirates (568; dice roll) 24. New York Yankees (610) 25. Philadelphia Phillies (623) 26. Cincinnati Reds (630) Rounds 3 thru 8 1. Toronto Blue Jays 2. Seattle Mariners 3. Montreal Expos (340) 4. Chicago White Sox (398) 5. Milwaukee Brewers (410) 6. Atlanta Braves (432) 7. St. Louis Cardinals (444) 8. San Diego Padres (451) 9. San Francisco Giants (457) 10. Detroit Tigers (460) 11. Chicago Cubs (463) 12. Texas Rangers (469; dice roll) 13. California Angels (469; dice roll) 14. Houston Astros (494) 15. Cleveland Indians (509) 16. Boston Red Sox (512) 17. Minnesota Twins (525) 18. New York Mets (531) 19. Oakland Athletics (540) 20. Baltimore Orioles (543) 21. Kansas City Royals (556) 22. Los Angeles Dodgers (568; dice roll) 23. Pittsburgh Pirates (568; dice roll) 24. New York Yankees (610) 25. Philadelphia Phillies (623) 26. Cincinnati Reds (630) Eligible PIT players: 9 position players + 7 pitchers = 16. No Legacy for us this year and our clear first pick has little (read: no) chance of still being available for our late R1 pick. So we keep him only in the back of our mind and go into the Draft with a clearly-formulated more realistic plan of how to proceed, although with just 8 eligibles from which to choose a fair few of those we take will likely be depth pieces or trade bait. Not far away from ’79 now and so those we do take for keeps need to be useful to us then. Here's our new batch of Buccos: 1. C Lance Parrish, 20 (ineligible)
5. IF Jim Gabella, 20 (ineligible) 6. P Reno Aragon, 19 (ineligible) 7. OF Douglas Foster, 19 (ineligible) 8. 3B Mike Sember, 23 (ineligible)
By dint of the Parrish add alone this was a good day for us. FULL DRAFT LOG ![]()
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1976 Expansion Draft
With so many recently-added clubs still finding their feet, the challenge here was to find the sweet spot that doesn't decimate them but allows the Jays and M's some recourse to assemble a semi-decent squad and at least not embarrass themselves.
To which end, I settled on the following settings for the ED: ![]() A bit of confusion with our Protected List after the Hebner trade, in that I have Madlock being past the cutoff but they are showing him as auto-protected. I will be undoing the pick if he gets taken here. So, without him in it, here are our 18 protected players: ![]() We lose the following five guys: ![]()
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Call from the Hall
Bunning and Roberts, who didn't miss by much last year, get in this time along with first-balloter Eddie Mathews.
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1977 The First Time Around
Shaken and stirred into action by big offseason Free-Agent signing Reggie Jackson, the Yankees surge late and overcome one of the most tumultuous and toxic clubhouses ever to win it all for the first time in a decade and a half, beating the Dodgers in six to rekindle an old rivalry. October will never be the same.
AL EAST / WEST CHAMPIONS: New York Yankees (100-62) / Kansas City Royals (102-60) NL EAST / WEST CHAMPIONS: Philadelphia Phillies (101-61) / Los Angeles Dodgers (98-64) ALCS: Yankees 3, Royals 2 NLCS: Dodgers 3, Phillies 1 WORLD SERIES: Yankees 4, Dodgers 2 Pittsburgh Pirates: 96-66, 2nd in NL East AL MVP: Rod Carew (Twins) NL MVP: George Foster (Reds) AL CYA: Sparky Lyle (Yankees) NL CYA: Steve Carlton (Phillies) AL RoY: Eddie Murray (Orioles) NL RoY: Andre Dawson (Expos) Top Ten Lists (courtesy of thisgreatgame.com) NL Hitters 1. GEORGE FOSTER, CINCINNATI
AL Hitters 1. ROD CAREW, MINNESOTA
NL Pitchers 1. TOM SEAVER, NEW YORK-CINCINNATI
AL Pitchers 1. JIM PALMER, BALTIMORE
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1977 Preseason / Spring Training
We get what I think is the first ever $10m contract as salaries continue to zoom. Bill Buckner is no longer a Met, Jim Gantner no longer a Brewer, Gaylord Perry or Willie McCovey no longer a Giant. And welcome to the world of Free-Agency, Toronto Blue Jays!
ALL TRANSACTIONS We go 9-9 for Spring Training and lose Kurt Bevacqua for a fortnight. Tight races expected in all but the AL West, with BNN favouring the Phillies in our div with us not far behind. We shall see. Looks like we can expect plenty of homers this year. FULL PRESEASON PREDICTIONS ![]()
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The View from the Gangplank Opening Day, 1977
A very quiet offseason for us - just the Madlock trade and we pick up Woodie Fryman on a cheap 1+1 deal just for LHP depth purposes. That means we still have all of our trade tickets and CC slots unused.
We had Bob Moose on the books after a minors deal last year and he'll now join us at the big club in a LR / Spot Starter role. Lee Mazzilli comes up, Bill Almon stays up. No other changes other than a couple positional switches with Scoop in LF and George Hendrick in CF. Henny will lead off this year, Bill will hit third and Al second. Candy is now our SP1. It's still a decent squad but thin should injury hit, so those trade coupons will be kept close by just in case. Kurt Bevacqua will be back in less than a week. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Look at those fancy threads - I might just keep them in use for the rest of the save. So cool!
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Cutlass Club / Financials Update 1977
So from here for the next two years, every decision we make is in the context of winning it all in 1979. I get the feeling I'm setting us up for a fall here but I'm still enjoying the singular focus. When I do my short pause at the end of that season, it'll mean my return will involve a substantial reset for the final phase of this timeline, which should also be fun.
Madlock is the top focus for us. He'll cost a pretty penny but importantly only wants a 2-year deal which suits the club perfectly. So we've got a deal in the works that will make him our franchise's first-ever million-dollar player. EDIT: He eventually signs for two years at right on that figure. Gossage is another must keep. Others such as Robinson, Forster and Bibby we're still mulling over and will be very much dependent on their demands. As I mentioned, all three CC slots are vacant and we have a bucketload of money at our disposal. So I won't be shy about hiring top-notch rentals on multo denarii to help us achieve our goal. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Red Hot Sox
They look like one of the teams to beat again this year and two of their big guns go wild here against the Tribe.
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The Wheeling and the Dealing
This, if I do say so myself, is a ballsy move. With it, we are pretty much trashing this season to get the guy we feel is our X factor for the next few.
![]() From the moment we saw he was coming into the league unspoken for in a Legacy sense, we knew we had to have Ron for '79. Our pitching problems early only made me more eager to lock him down. As you can see, it took a passel of players to get it done. Wayne will at least partway offset the loss of Mazzilli, who is really the only piece here who we had earmarked for '79. With Lacy and Robinson already filling the extra OF roles, we felt we weren't going to get much value from Lee anyway, although an injury or two will flip that on its head. ![]() ![]() The sally we've dumped should pay for the first two of of Ron's arb years, which he is into at season's end. He'll take up one of our CC slots, leaving two free. Wayne, who played for us IRL in 1982, is therefore an eligible. We're for now going to move Bill Madlock across to 2B and insert Bill Robinson at 3B. Makes us a very weak defensive unit but we'll just have to tolerate that for the time being until a more permanent solution is conjured up. We've called up our old pal Gene Alley, who we acquired via a minors deal, to help around the D.
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Cecil's Big Day Out
6 hits and 7 ribbies is a decent night's work by anyone's standards...
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The View from the Gangplank June 1, 1977
A dreadful start by our pitchers sees our ERA blow out to an NL-worst 5.34 after 15 games. Reuss and Rhoden just cannot get their act together and Bibby looks a shot duck—thus the subsequent inclusion of him in the Guidry trade.
After 40 games, we sit at a dead-even 20-20, which seems accurate given one half of our game is working well and the other terribly. And, thanks to a win over Lefty Carlton and the Phils on the last day of May, we enter the middle third with a (barely) winning record and 4 GB our friends from the City of Brotherly Love. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() As mentioned earlier, Bill Madlock is locked down with a 2-year, $2m extension. We splash more cash on Rich Gossage (2/1050) and Bill Robinson (2+1/1610), then do what we feel is a very friendly 7/2635 deal to keep Ron Guidry - who settles in nicely after the trade - here thru 1984. We’ll hold off on others just for now. The defending Champs are looking strong again, going a stellar 23-7 over their first 30 games to get an early jump on their AL West rivals. ![]() Monthly Award Winners April American League
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Halicki-di-split
Isn't Ed Halicki having a nice little time of it in this universe...
IRL Ed threw the 193rd no-no in MLB history in August, 1975. He has had to wait a couple extra years in this timeline. ![]()
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1977 MLB All-Star Game
Ron Guidry, Rich Gossage and Dave Parker are our representatives this year.
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Mike Schmidt beats Davey Johnson to win the HR Derby, with the AL narrowing the running score to 21-23 with a 6-1 win and Robin Yount named MVP.
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The Wheeling and the Dealing
Only what's left of this year and one full season left before we're into 1979, so we can't be leaving our trade tickets on the shelf if it can be avoided. This is a fairly even trade that swaps out a guy for whom we have no use for one who will be a really handy OF depth guy with some nice pop.
![]() Tony, who came up with us briefly and played for the club in 1976 before heading to the A's, still has almost his full TC complement intact. ![]() He comes into the parent club at the expense of Mario Mendoza, who heads back to AAA after going 0-for-1.
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The View from the Gangplank August 1, 1977
Alternating wins and losses mean we hover around that 500 mark in the first half of June. Unable to abide by how poorly Rick Rhoden continues to pitch, he and his near-7 ERA go off in shame to the BP to think about things, with Bob Moose called into the rotation for a while.
After that, just disaster, plain and simple as this pitching horror show continues as we give up 14 and then 16 runs on consecutive days against the Giants. By this point our team ERA is pushing 5 with both the SP and BP back to ranking next-to-last. And that’s with Candy, Guidry and Kison all doing well. The lower end and parts of the relief corps, on the other hand, have just melted. We are once again fortunate in that none of our competitors really take the bull by the horns as all this is playing out, and we remain in touch with the division-leading Phillies throughout. Just as we get a bit of a run going with 6 straight wins that put us 43-38 at the midpoint and get us within one of the lead, we lose Bill Robinson for 5 weeks to a labrum tear. Not wanting to start the clock just yet on Dale Berra, we call up Mario Mendoza and his mighty bat for his first go in the bigs. We struggle a bit for the next bit, as the Phils flatten us taking three of four at TRC and hand Bruce Kison his first loss of the year after 9 wins, but are still just one off the pace at the All-Star Game in a super tight race with four teams within a game or so of the lead. The lads would be the first to admit we aren’t playing great baseball, but we keep scratching together the wins and eventually move into first place for a while then regress once more. After 100 games we sit at a barely-winning 51-49 and yet still lead the div by a half-game, and this looks set to be an utterly gripping stretch run as we close out the sectional similarly-placed. ![]() ![]() Strong performances abound but you really are only ever as good as your worst performers let you be. ![]() Dave Parker wins the June hitter prize... ![]() ... and Candyman the July pitcher gong. ![]() It isn't just our div that seems destined for late drama, wit hall four races incredibly tight with many chances. News, Leaders and Top 20s ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Monthly Award Winners June American League
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Brothers in Arms
Less than a year after brother Joe did it, Phil Niekro gets a matching no-no.
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400 for Pops
Our club's all-time leader in the category reaches a nice HR milestone.
![]() That makes him the 21st to reach this mark and, with the better part of a decade likely left in the great man's career, he has some chance of making 500 vs his IRL total of 475.
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Stat Check: XBH
Who holds the single season record in the MLB for extra base hits?
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Racy Lacy Hits for the Cycle
He's become one of the most important cogs in our structural wheel and it's nice to see Lee Lacy have his moment in the sun here.
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