Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack

[Merkle923]

Just nineteen games as a Giants' reliever in 1963 and 1964, but something about him struck a nerve and a Pregenzer fan club was established which had as many as 3,000 members.

[Buccos]

>> something about him struck a nerve and a Pregenzer fan club was established

Sounds exactly what happened with the Mets' Wilbur Huckle.

[Merkle923]

So I had the year wrong:

6/7/1975 edition of The Sporting News reports that when Cardinals traded Ted Martinez to Oakland 5/16, “much-traveled Jay Schlueter was rushed in temporarily from Tulsa...but a few days later Don Hahn replaced Schlueter.”


For the record, St. Louis started a three-game series at Candlestick Park on May 16, 1975, which explains how Doug McWilliams shot him for Topps. Schlueter never played for the Cardinals and in fact 1975 was his last year in pro ball.

As to Pregenzer and Wilbur Huckle - Pregenzer actually made it to the majors, Huckle never did. But he did get a trip to the Polo Grounds at the end of his 1963 minor league season (without being added to the roster) plus a banner at the Mets' 1964 Banner Day, and the "campaign" pins shown above his image.

[Terry D]

The Pittsburgh Pirates altered their uniforms twice during the 80's. For the 1985-86 seasons, they dropped the yellow cap and the fancy yellow-and-black mix and match stuff they had been wearing and adopted a gray road outfit to go with a white home outfit. The cap was the box-style yellow-on-black. After wearing that combination for two years, the Pirates adopted a completely new style with a conventional black cap. With all these changes, it isn't easy to find pictures of all the Pirates of that era in each variation. Here are three of them. First is John Candelaria, here in the road gray adopted for '85 and before his trade to the Angels later that season. Second is Don Robinson in 1987, wearing the orthodox cap and the new outfit before his trade to the Giants that year. Finally is a picture from 1981, the only color shot I have ever seen of the elusive Doe Boyland wearing the No. 12 he played in that year. The quality of the shot is not very good in the full magnification. The Candelaria and Boyland photos are from ebay seller signatures4u!, while the Robinson photo is from mainlineautographs.

[Terry D]

Neil Allen was a very good reliever for the Mets in the early 80s, but he will always be better known as the man the Mets traded to get Keith Hernandez. Allen pitched effectively for the Cards for two years but he was never a star again and after 1984 he became a nomad roaming from team to team. Allen spent 1986 and part of 87 with the White Sox. Pictures of him in the 82-86 White Sox uniform are plentiful, but the Sox changed their uniforms for 1987. Allen went to New York for his second tour of duty with the Yankees during the 87 season, so pictures of him in the Sox 87 outfit apparently aren't too common. Here is a good one from ebay seller signatures4u! The same seller has also posted a good color shot of Allen with the 1989 Indians, only the second such photo I have ever seen.

[rico43]

Again, promising not to glut this site is old Vault images that may or may not be ID'd elsewhere, a request for those who have worked on these to lend a hand. We have (at Baseball Birthdays) just posted our initial list of ID's from the massive Topps Vault Folder BC -- over 2,000 images.

Please lend a hand when possible. While many are 50s images, here are couple of 60s that I know we SHOULD know (sigh). Thanks in advance.

This is BC 1206, paired with two images of Bob Roselli, was long gone from the Braves by the time they switched to this mid-60s uniform.



I know there are oodles of Mets collectors out there, but their mid-60s pitchers have, to me at the moment, all run together into a big blue blur. No alphabetical help.




Happy Father's Day! Hope you have a catch with your kids today.

[KenRaffensberger16]

Kind Of Quirky: Although neither reliever
spent more than two seasons with the
Phillies, Doug Jones (1994), above, and
Heathcliff Slocumb (1995), below, while
pitching as Phillies, wound up as the winning
pitchers in two consecutive major league
all-star games

[Amazin69]

Originally Posted by rico43

I know there are oodles of Mets collectors out there, but their mid-60s pitchers have, to me at the moment, all run together into a big blue blur. No alphabetical help.

Attachment 406497

Mid-'60s he isn't. That's the Polo Grounds, not Big Shea. 1962-1963, only. (Also, the Mets had numbers on the uniform fronts beginning in '65.) So that should narrow it down; I'm sure somebody will probably snag him right away.

A quick check shows that the Mets only employed 16 RHP in those two seasons, and it sure isn't Roadblock Jones (racially disqualified) or Ed Bauta. So choose from the following list:

Roger Craig
Jay Hook
Craig Anderson
Galen Cisco
Ray Daviault
Bob L. "Righty" Miller
Herb Moford
Larry Foss
Bob Moorhead
Dave Hillman
Clem Labine
Carl Willey
Tracy Stallard
Larry Bearnarth

Happy hunting!

Happy Father's Day! Hope you have a catch with your kids today.

Would my cat count?

[keonleafs]

[QUOTE=rico43;3884593]
I know there are oodles of Mets collectors out there, but their mid-60s pitchers have, to me at the moment, all run together into a big blue blur. No alphabetical help.

Jay Hook

[Merkle923]

Correct: it's not only Jay Hook - it's the inset B&W image on that '63 card of him.

The catcher is a career minor leaguer named either Butler Powell:

http://www.baseball-reference.com/mi...d=powell001but

And Powell appears to have only been in the Braves' camp in 1964

[cheech411]

red sox

[cheech411]

phils e bay

[Merkle923]

The Topps Vault continues to produce the obscure, or in this case the semi-obscure in obscure uniforms.

Rodney Scott during his rookie year with the Royals 1975, and his season in Oakland (1977).

[Merkle923]

27-game reliever for the Cardinals in '79 and '80 - traded to the Padres, never played for them but of course - still photographed.

[Merkle923]

The piece de resistance - shortstop and third baseman in just eight games (0-for-6) in 1984 and 1985. To my knowledge, there's a small image of him on a Royals' fan site, another of him celebrating in a clubhouse, a couple of retouched shots of him from the Omaha Royals...and now, these two.

(As an aside, the newest Vault upload includes a couple of career minor league pitchers, Randy Sealy and Ron Selak, posted to that thread).

[cheech411]

dennis

[rico43]

Topps Folder BL is one of the smaller batches that have emerged from the Vault, only 87 total images, but it was one of the bigger treats so far as part of the ID process. Not only did I find a TV image of Bob Friend with the Mets that is superior to anything else I've seen, I came across a photo of Bob Lemon in the spring camp of the Braves(!) in 1973 or 1974. Never knew Lemon helped, but he lived (and died) in West Palm Beach when he actually retired.

It also has a great Phil Niekro gallery and a painfully young set of Greg Maddux images. Stuff like this is why I love Merkle's insights with every new batch that sees the light of day. Makes me wonder if, one day just for the hell of it, Topps will dump about 1,000 on us at one time.



Bob Friend, 1966 Mets



Bob Lemon, 1973 or 74 Braves (a minor league catcher wore 58 in 1972, when the Braves intoduced these unis).

[BklynJace]

Originally Posted by rico43

Topps Folder BL is one of the smaller batches that have emerged from the Vault, only 87 total images, but it was one of the bigger treats so far as part of the ID process. Not only did I find a TV image of Bob Friend with the Mets that is superior to anything else I've seen, I came across a photo of Bob Lemon in the spring camp of the Braves(!) in 1973 or 1974. Never knew Lemon helped, but he lived (and died) in West Palm Beach when he actually retired.

It also has a great Phil Niekro gallery and a painfully young set of Greg Maddux images. Stuff like this is why I love Merkle's insights with every new batch that sees the light of day. Makes me wonder if, one day just for the hell of it, Topps will dump about 1,000 on us at one time.

Yeah, that Bob Friend shot is one of Topps's best Mets photos ever, IMHO. Shame it was never a card.

[Merkle923]

The Lemon image is from 1975, when he spent half the year as a special assignment scout (and spring training instructor). He was a scout for the Royals in 1973, and spent 1974 managing for the Brewers at Sacramento.

[cinemaodyssey]

I hadn't seen Benton in color in an Indians uniform. This one was on ebay from seller andy1921.