|
||||
| ||||
|
|
#2642 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
1984 Offseason
OUT & OUTS
A couple of newly-unemployed among the managerial ranks with Karl Olson (Twins) and Bill Kennedy (Dodgers) given their marching orders. Mariners pilot Adolfo Phillips doesn't have his contract renewed, nor do Sam Jones with KC or Gene Gabler at Cleveland. On the flipside, Sandy Koufax gets a 5-year extension as Houston skipper. ROSTER MOVES We execute the team options of Tony Armas and Gene Garber for 1985, but void that of Amos Otis. We extend Johnny Ray on a 1/650 deal and send Jerry Dybzinski and Miguel Dilone to arb. Will McEnaney is non-tendered (finally!), while Victor Cruz, Phil Garner and Dave Parker all walk. The following extensions of note were signed at other clubs: P Atlee Hammaker (Giants) 3/8480 P Bryn Smith (Padres) 3/4100 2B Wally Backman (Cubs) 3/1904 SIM ACCURACY ![]() *Ignore the SB figure, I often bump it up in the LTMs if I feel it's too low. HANGIN' THEM UP Some big-name pitchers take their leave of us but only Knucksie looks a decent chance of making it to the HoF. Bill Buckner, in a prescient move, retires before 1986 arrives... ![]() Last edited by luckymann; 02-23-2024 at 11:39 PM. |
|
|
|
|
|
#2643 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
A Quick FYI
As I think I might have mentioned previously, in an effort to keep the juice-junkies at bay over the remainder of this save, I am going to apply edited LTMs rather than historical ones from 1985 onwards.
They might need some work along the way, but the starting point for these edits looks like this: ![]() For those interested, they are the average of the 40 seasons previous to and inclusive of the one being calculated, scaled to that season's IRL AB figure. EG for 1985 the average of 1946 thru 1985. The average reduction in HR per season over the 39 in question is a smidge over 13% from the historical. Last edited by luckymann; 02-23-2024 at 10:27 PM. |
|
|
|
|
|
#2645 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
The Wheeling and the Dealing
With both Dave Kingman and Tony Armas in their walk years and not to be extended, this upcoming season will be our last roll of the dice with the TTO strategy. From there a transition - which is already in progress - to a smaller-ball, speed oriented offence where the longball is more peripheral to our run production than front-and-centre.
Our almost perennial need is for three main types of players: shortstops, CFs and LH pitchers of any distinction - and this season is no different. In our quest to stock the larder for these types of players this year, we see the Yankees have a SS and a LHP, both eligible PIT players, and approach them about a trade. After the requisite to-ing and fro-ing, the following deal is struck: ![]() We could in fact have expedited the aforementioned transition with this trade, as Tony Armas was on the list of acceptable players the Yanks brass sent through. But we wanted to give the bash-and-dash strategy one final hurrah and, while Ken has been great for us, he doesn't really fall into either strat cat and with Vance Law on the books almost an identical player we felt he was expendable. So Vance will become the everyday 3B and Tom (we've now had Tim Foli and Tom Foley in back and gold) will slot into a backup IF role, while Dave will start off in the BP but likely end up as a spot starter before too long. That big chunk of change will be put toward retaining Johnny Ray past his TC regime, which ends in '86. |
|
|
|
|
|
#2646 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 2,860
|
And with the 1985 legacy pick, you get...Barry Bonds!!!
Let's hope you win one (or two or three) with him in this sim... |
|
|
|
|
|
#2647 | |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
Quote:
Barry (who will actually be among the 1986 LPs) is eligible for both us (just) and the Giants, so it will all come down to who has the higher pick. This is decided from the IRL standings, not the in-game ones, so I have purposely given them a wide berth so I don't find out until the pool release date in early July. I'm perhaps surprisingly unfussed as to whether we get him or not. Clearly he'd be a huge plus for the squad but I just do not like him as a human being. So if it happens, it happens. If not, we'll just have to find the special sauce without him. TBH I think I'd rather we got Bobby Bo. Watch this space and thanks for following along! G Last edited by luckymann; 02-24-2024 at 01:17 AM. |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#2648 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2023
Posts: 2,860
|
Yeah, 1986 will be interesting with both Bonds and Bobby Bonilla available in the LP draft...
Still, it's your decision--and Bonds is not a likeable person, so I agree with you there... |
|
|
|
|
|
#2649 | |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
Quote:
The other thing I have to consider is that LPs usually come way cheaper than if they were just entering the game like "normal" players, because I apply the historical salary to LPs for the duration of their contract, the length of which again is determined by how long they spent at the club IRL, with some caveats attached. (I do like to make things complicated, don't I?) So to have Bonds on a discounted rate would be hugely beneficial to a small-market club like ours. As they say, "beggars can't be choosers" and, in the financial sense in this timeline, we definitely fall into the beggar category so if he does come our way I'll just have to swallow my personal feelings about the bloke and be thankful for the windfall... Suffice to say, however it plays out, I'll be very eagerly awaiting the pool reveal this year! G |
|
|
|
|
|
|
#2650 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
1984/85 Rookie Draft & Legacy Players
A fairly quiet year on the legacy front with just 4 coming in (the calm before the '85 storm?) and the pool overall is relatively nondescript on the whole.
These are the Legacy Players for the 1985 Season: Boston Red Sox: Mike Greenwell (25.8; 1269 – one-club player) Milwaukee Brewers: Teddy Higuera (30.3; 213 GS – one-club player conceded) New York Yankees: Paul O’Neill (38.8; 1254) Oakland Athletics: Jose Canseco (42.4; 1058) There are 125 rookies for this season plus an influx of 364 MiLBers for a total of 489, and the Draft will consist of 15 rounds. The Draft order will be as follows (winning percentage from 1984 IRL season in brackets; bold indicates Legacy Pick in 1st Round): Round 1 1. Oakland Athletics (475) 2. New York Yankees (537) 3. Milwaukee Brewers (416) 4. Boston Red Sox (531) 5. San Francisco Giants (407) 6. Texas Rangers (429) 7. Cincinnati Reds (432) 8. Seattle Mariners (457; dice roll) 9. Chicago White Sox (457; dice roll) 10. Cleveland Indians (463; dice roll) 11. Pittsburgh Pirates (463; dice roll) 12. Montreal Expos (484) 13. Los Angeles Dodgers (488) 14. Houston Astros (494; dice roll) 15. Atlanta Braves (494; dice roll) 16. Minnesota Twins (500; dice roll) 17. Philadelphia Phillies (500; dice roll) 18. California Angels (500; dice roll) 19. St. Louis Cardinals (519; dice roll) 20. Kansas City Royals (519; dice roll) 21. Baltimore Orioles (525) 22. Toronto Blue Jays (549) 23. New York Mets (556) 24. San Diego Padres (568) 25. Chicago Cubs (596) 26. Detroit Tigers (642) Rounds 2 thru 15 1. San Francisco Giants (407) 2. Milwaukee Brewers (416) 3. Texas Rangers (429) 4. Cincinnati Reds (432) 5. Seattle Mariners (457; dice roll) 6. Chicago White Sox (457; dice roll) 7. Cleveland Indians (463; dice roll) 8. Pittsburgh Pirates (463; dice roll) 9. Oakland Athletics (475) 10. Montreal Expos (484) 11. Los Angeles Dodgers (488) 12. Houston Astros (494; dice roll) 13. Atlanta Braves (494; dice roll) 14. Minnesota Twins (500; dice roll) 15. Philadelphia Phillies (500; dice roll) 16. California Angels (500; dice roll) 17. St. Louis Cardinals (519; dice roll) 18. Kansas City Royals (519; dice roll) 19. Baltimore Orioles (525) 20. Boston Red Sox (531) 21. New York Yankees (537) 22. Toronto Blue Jays (549) 23. New York Mets (556) 24. San Diego Padres (568) 25. Chicago Cubs (596) 26. Detroit Tigers (642) Eligible PIT players: 6 position players + 5 pitchers = 11 Even with the high-ish pick, the pool this year means pickings look slim and we go in with tempered expectations. Here’s who we take home with us: 1. OF John Cangelosi, 21 (PIT IRL: 1987-90)
3. P Pat Clements, 22 (PIT IRL: 1985-86)
6. P John Cerutti, 24 (INELIGIBLE, just couldn’t resist…)
A decent enough night for us. ![]() Now, where's that Candiotti fella... |
|
|
|
|
|
#2651 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
Oh, Universe, you kidder, you...
This is the BBRef front page that greeted me when I went in to do the LP salaries...
![]() And, yes Bradley, that's your BF Bartolo there as well... |
|
|
|
|
|
#2652 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
Call from the Hall
Sweet Swingin' Billy finally gets his plaque and Sam McDowell goes close - maybe next year! No such luck for Mr Cub, who drops off after his full complement. Maybe the Centennial Committee will look favourably on him in 2000?
|
|
|
|
|
|
#2653 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
1985 The First Time Around
An all-Mizzou World Series and maiden World Championship for the Royals are all but overshadowed by that blown call. It is a season of great performances by both the young (Gooden, Saberhagen) and the old (Seaver, Darrell Evans, Phil Niekro) filled with milestones galore (Tom and Knucksie’s 300th, Nolan’s 4000th) and a brief work strike. Welcome to 1985, MLB style!
AL EAST / WEST CHAMPIONS: Toronto Blue Jays (99-62) / Kansas City Royals (91-71) NL EAST / WEST CHAMPIONS: St. Louis Cardinals (101-61) / Los Angeles Dodgers (95-67) ALCS: Royals 4, Blue Jays 3 NLCS: Cardinals 4, Cubs 2 WORLD SERIES: Royals 4, Cardinals 3 57-104, 6th in NL East (I guess that answers the Bonds question, then…) AL MVP: Don Mattingly (Yankees) NL MVP: Willie McGee (Cardinals) AL CYA: Bret Saberhagen (Royals) NL CYA: Dwight Gooden (Mets) AL RoY: Ozzie Guillen (White Sox) NL RoY: Vince Coleman (Cardinals) Top Ten Lists (courtesy of thisgreatgame.com) NL Hitters 1. WILLIE MCGEE, ST. LOUIS
AL Hitters 1. RICKEY HENDERSON, NEW YORK
NL Pitchers 1. DWIGHT GOODEN, NEW YORK
AL Pitchers 1. BRET SABERHAGEN, KANSAS CITY
|
|
|
|
|
|
#2654 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
1985 Preseason / Spring Training
Funderburks are GO! as the unheralded outfielder gets a massive deal from the Tigers in an offseason market that starts late and ends early but in-between is very busy indeed.
Ron Guidry and Dave Parker join IRL teams, while age-39 Davey Lopes, age-37 Nolan Ryan and Darrell Evans and age-36 Lee Lacy get nice little send-off deals from the Dodgers, Cards, Jays and Cubs. OF Davey Lopes: Dodgers, 2 years / $7.3m / AAV $3.64m P Nolan Ryan: Cardinals, 3 years / $10.8m / AAV $3.60m OF Dave Winfield: Tigers, 5 years / $17.2m / AAV $3.44m C Ron Hassey: Cubs, 2 years / $6.8m / AAV $3.40m OF Lee Lacy: Cubs, 2 years / $6.7m / AAV $3.36m 1B Darrell Evans: Blue Jays, 3 years / $9.3m / AAV $3.11m OF Jerry Mumphrey: Cubs, 2 years / $5.7m / AAV $2.68m OF Mark Funderburk: Tigers, 4 years / $10.9m / AAV $2.72m P Ron Guidry: Yankees, 4 years / $10.4m / AAV $2.60m P Mike Krukow: Giants, 3 years / $7.3m / AAV $2.44m P Joaquin Andujar: Yankees, 2 years / $4.8m / AAV $2.40m C Rich Gedman: Phillies, 4 years / $8.5m / AAV $2.13m OF Hal McRae: Twins, 1 year / $2.0m / AAV $2.04m OF Jose Cruz: White Sox, 2 year / $4.0m / AAV $1.98m 2B Glenn Hubbard: Astros, 3 years / $5.2m / AAV $1.73m SS Dave Concepcion: Cubs, 1 year / $1.7m / AAV $1.70m 3B Graig Nettles: Astros, 1 year / $1.7m / AAV $1.70m C Darrell Porter: Angels, 4 years / $6.1m / AAV $1.52m 1B Cliff Johnson: Red Sox, 3 years / $4.4m / AAV $1.46m OF Dave Parker: A’s, 3 year / $4.4m / AAV $1.46m P Frank Tanana: Rangers, 4 years / $5.8m / AAV $1.46m 3B Bill Madlock: Dodgers, 2 years / $2.8m / AAV $1.40m 3B Johnny Bench: Blue Jays, 1 year / $1.4m / AAV $1.36m OF Gary Matthews: Giants, 3 years / $4.0m / AAV $1.33m P Moose Haas: Cubs, 3 years / $3.9m / AAV $1.30m 1B Rod Carew: Dodgers, 1 year / $1.1m / AAV $1.12m P Rich Gossage: Tigers, 2 years / $1.4m / AAV $0.71m 2B Steve Sax from Tigers to A’s for P Dave Schmidt 1B Sid Bream from Royals to White Sox for P Donnie Moore P Mark Davis and OF Mike Brown from Giants to White Sox for P Steve Bedrosian and 2B Luis Quinones 1B Gerald Perry from Padres to Expos for P Jesse Orosco and SS Spike Owen SS Lenny Faedo from Giants to Yankees for 2B Toby Harrah P Julio Solano from Mets to Yankees for OF Ben Ogilvie OF Howard Johnson from Cubs to Mariners for 1B Kent Hrbek OF Johnny Grubb and OF Mike Diaz from Mariners to Mets for 1B Leon Durham (retaining 10%) 3B Rick Schu from Expos to Brewers for P Len Barker (retaining 85%) 2B Kelly Gruber and OF John Christensen from Tigers to Mariners for P Allen Ripley 3B Carney Lansford from Astros to Tigers for 3B Denny Gonzalez and SS Alvaro Espinoza 1B Nick Esasky, OF Jeff Stone and SS Greg Gagne from Rangers to Braves for 3B Bob Horner (retaining 45%) P Roy Smith and P Edwin Nunez from Cardinals to Indians for OF Don Baylor We go 11-7 in Spring Training with no injuries to speak of. BNN are tipping division wins for the Blue Jays, White Sox, Cubs and Dodgers and a fairly long season for us—they see us finishing dead last at 75-87. With our pitching, I don’t think we’re that bad but will be satisfied with a winning record and don’t expect us to be featuring in the pointy end this time around. ![]() |
|
|
|
|
|
#2655 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
The View from the Gangplank Opening Day, 1985
This season will come down to two main factors: how good our pitching actually is and how many runs our offence can scratch together to support their efforts. Baseball 101, really.
We turn an eye to the future, moving Scott Sanderson up to SP1 and promoting John Tudor to the rotation and the expense of Rick Rhoden, who we're going to try in a setup role for the final year at the club. Cecilio Guante retains the Closer role and Jerry Don Gleaton makes his MLB debut after a long wait down at AAA, with Neal Heaton making way for now. Gary Redus in at LF and leading off. Joe Orsulak will get a ton of ABs as our main backup OF and Miguel Dilone starts the year with us but that thinness at CF makes John Cangelosi or someone else (we have a WW claim in for Terry Harper) almost certain to come in before too long because of Miguel's defensive limitations. Bill Almon makes his return and will fill a variety of roles in both the IF and OF. A few familiar faces return to the club in our annual MiLB trawl, with George Hendrick, Tim Foli and Larry McWilliams at Lincoln. A bit of a patchwork quilt but there's a real "brothers in arms" feel to this group and I'm looking forward to seeing if that translates to on-field performance. ![]() |
|
|
|
|
|
#2656 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
Cutlass Club / Financials Update 1985
A bunch of budget space and a stack more payroll coming off the books at the end of this season, with Kong, Armas, Rhoden and Wash all in their walk year and unlikely to return.
Johnny Ray and Dave LaPoint the two big-ticket items we'll have to navigate this year, with a few smaller ones like Don Slaught, Tom Foley, Rod Scurry and Cecilio Guante also to be dealt with. Three transaction tickets still up our sleeve and if the right guy(s) come along we'll give them our utmost consideration but the larder is quite full of youngsters as well. ![]() |
|
|
|
|
|
#2659 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
Stat Check: W
Who holds the single season record in the MLB for wins?
Rube Waddell (1904, 1907), Lefty Grove (1932), Doc White (1905), Smokey Joe Williams (1913), Smoky Joe Wood (1909), Dutch Leonard (1914), Rube Vickers (1916) and Barney Brown (1936) all won 30. |
|
|
|
|
|
#2660 |
|
Hall Of Famer
Join Date: Nov 2019
Posts: 14,054
|
The View from the Gangplank June 1, 1985
Things that make you go hmmm.
We do get Terry Harper via the WW and that means Miguel Dilone goes to AAA. A nice little short-term add for us. ![]() We lose Gene Garber to the O’s via the same means. The lads come out to play from the off, going 9-1 over our first 10 including no fewer than three walkoff wins including one against the Mets in which we rally with 4 and Terry Harper wins it with a 3-run double. This hot start can’t hide the fact, however, that our pitchers are going extremely poorly, with the rotation ERA ranked next-to-last and just under 5. An all-in-all upside-down scenario compared with what we expected. Except, that is, for Dave Kingman hitting 097… which we knew was a distinct possibility. The inevitable forces of gravity take hold and we cool off, losing five straight and then four on the bounce as well to fall into mid-standings mediocrity with our starting pitching still very much on the nose. Still, no faulting the way the offence is applying itself. The runs are coming and, if we can keep that up while fixing our performance on the mound then we’re a bit of a dark horse. But that’s a big if. As is shown when we lose 0-2 then 0-13 to the Astros, with Danny Darwin shelled in the latter game. Maybe I should just keep my big trap shut, hey? Compounding this, Gary Redus goes down for a month with a hamstring strain and so, rather than rush John Cangelosi, George Hendrick makes a welcome return to the fold. A poor finish to an utterly bewildering opening stanza sees us lose our last four games to finish May at 23-21. Methinks some fast-simming is in my immediate future... ![]() We commence our roster management for the year by signing Johnny Ray to a 4-year / $5.6m deal. We also keep Dave LaPoint around thru 1988 with a 3/2700 extension. Others we re-up with are Don Slaught (1/365) and Tom Foley (1/410). Wouldn’t mind some of what our AAA boys are having as they enter June sitting at a scintillating 25-4. Lee Mazzilli is another to enter their ranks on a minors deal. ![]() What odds an all-Canada World Series this year? Monthly Award Winners April American League Batter – Don Mattingly (Yankees): 392 / 3 HR / 26 RBI Pitcher – Bret Saberhagen (Royals): 4-0 / 2.48 / 15 K / 32.2 IP Rookie – Teddy Higuera (Brewers): 3-0 / 2.57 / 22 K / 35 IP National League Batter – George Bell (Phillies): 406 / 9 HR / 19 RBI Pitcher – Kirk McCaskill (Expos): 4-0 / 1.43 / 21 K / 37.2 IP Rookie – Kirk McCaskill May American League Batter – George Brett (Royals): 341 / 6 HR / 16 RBI Pitcher – Shane Rawley (Orioles): 5-0 / 1.20 / 28 K / 45 IP Rookie – Ernest Riles (Rangers): 330 / 3 HR / 11 RBI National League Batter – Joe Morgan (Reds): 364 / 6 HR / 17 RBI (still showing the kids how to do it at age 41!) Pitcher –Ron Robinson (Expos): 6-0 / 1.54 / 24 K / 46.2 IP Rookie – Kirk McCaskill (Expos): 5-1 / 3.92 / 28 K / 39 IP News and Leaders ![]() Milestones and Observations of Note 400 HR: Johnny Bench 2500 Hits: Cecil Cooper The Astros lose veteran SP Rudy May to a back injury for 4 months. The Halos sign FA outfielder Dwayne Murphy on a 1/1540 deal. |
|
|
|
![]() |
| Bookmarks |
|
|