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Old 10-18-2016, 03:00 PM   #29341
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Lerrin LaGrow 1970

Something of a find in Cardinals' garb (1976; photo is from spring training 1977).

Tuesday's Topps uploads (KD) (published on cards or other products) 1-2 Ted Bowsfield; 3 John Boozer; 4 Pedro Borbon (Sr); 5 Tom Borland; 6 Dick Bosman; 7-8 Bill Bonham; 9 Frank Bolling; 10 Dick Bertell; 11 Frank Bertaina; 12 Tim Blackwell; 13 John Bateman; 14-15 Bob Barton; 16 Duane Josephson; 17 Mack Jones; 18 Jay Johnstone; 19 Jack Billingham; 20 Jim Beauchamp.
(Unused) 21-22 Rafael Landestoy; 23-24 Gary Lance; 25-26 Dennis Lamp; 27-28 Gene Lamont; 29-30 Ray Lamb; 31-32 John Lamb; 33-34 Jack Lamabe; 35-36 Joe LaHoud; 37-40 Lerrin LaGrow.
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Old 10-18-2016, 03:17 PM   #29342
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Something of a find in Cardinals' garb (1976; photo is from spring training 1977).

Tuesday's Topps uploads (KD) (published on cards or other products) 1-2 Ted Bowsfield; 3 John Boozer; 4 Pedro Borbon (Sr); 5 Tom Borland; 6 Dick Bosman; 7-8 Bill Bonham; 9 Frank Bolling; 10 Dick Bertell; 11 Frank Bertaina; 12 Tim Blackwell; 13 John Bateman; 14-15 Bob Barton; 16 Duane Josephson; 17 Mack Jones; 18 Jay Johnstone; 19 Jack Billingham; 20 Jim Beauchamp.
(Unused) 21-22 Rafael Landestoy; 23-24 tbd; 25-26 Dennis Lamp; 27-28 Gene Lamont; 29-30 Ray Lamb; 31-32 John Lamb; 33-34 Jack Lamabe; 35-36 Joe LaHoud; 37-40 Lerrin LaGrow.
Oh yes.... it is a good day around the hobbs campfire.....

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Old 10-18-2016, 03:36 PM   #29343
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Dave Vineyard 1964

He's in a small photo that reproduces poorly, in the '67 Boston yearbook:
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Old 10-18-2016, 04:38 PM   #29344
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KD 23-24: Gary Lance

Good match here for Gary Lance, KD 23-24. Played for the Royals in 1977 (which is still out there you'd hope). Pictured is 1979 TCMA card (Seattle minor leaguer).

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Old 10-18-2016, 05:35 PM   #29345
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Yep, it's Lance, they've posted him before, with Seattle.
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Old 10-18-2016, 08:32 PM   #29346
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The Mother Lode Of Ghosts And Bill Sharmans And Spring Trainees

This is the information equivalent of Topps posting all of its remaining million-plus images simultaneously.

Veteran SABR research guru Bill Hickman has released his master list of a) everybody who made a major league mid-season roster but did not appear in a game, b) everybody who appeared on spring training rosters 1928-2007 but never played in a regular season major league game, and were that somehow not enough, c) all the non-roster invitees between 1950 and 1999 including the 1995 "replacement" players.

Near Major Leaguers and the 'Bill Sharman Society' | Society for American Baseball Research

Please stand well back from your computers when you open the file.

(I will check my research on the Bill Sharman Society against Mr. Hickman's but I really doubt I have anybody he doesn't!)

PS Boy was I mistaken. I've got 35 guys on my list he doesn't have on his. I'll keep you posted.

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Old 10-18-2016, 09:23 PM   #29347
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Sharman List

FWIW,the first list, of those who were on rosters but did not play during the regular season, is only eight pages long printed landscape wth a slight reduction in size.
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:10 AM   #29348
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Joe Moock

Since I was, today, actively avoiding all of the things I should have been doing, I colorized a Moock that I don't think has been shared around here. So far as I know, as a Met, there's the color image from the One Year Winners set and a snap shot. I'm sure the OYW would be most people's default. I just think its a terrible pose is all. And the snap is too dark to do much with.

This image is from the 1968 Mets yearbook. It's one of the few Mets yearbooks I can think of where the minor league page in the early season yearbook and the revised yearbook are completely different. IIRC, Moock is in the season opening yearbook. In the revised, we get George Kazmarek. Others, too, in each, also different. Anyway....
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Old 10-19-2016, 01:51 PM   #29349
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Dan Larson 1976

Could've sworn I posted one I took of this up-and-down Phillie of 1978-81 (21 appearances spread over four seasons!) but it was profile and he was just standing there anyway. Here's a pro photo from today's Topps uploads.

The Wednesday list (KD): 41-44 Ron Kline; 45-48 Ted Kubiak; 49-50 Cookie Lavagetto; 51-54 Dick Lange; 55-56 Marvin Lane; 57-60 Ken Landreaux; 61-62 George Lauzerique; 63-66 Charlie Lau; 67-68 Barry Latman; 69-70 Dan Larson; 71-74 Dave LaRoche; 75-76 Bill Larkin (P/Dodgers system); 77-78 Dave LaPointe; 79-80 Rick Langford; 81-84 Darold Knowles; 85-88 Bobby Knoop; 89-90 Chuck Kniffin (P/Phillies system); 91-94 Bob Knepper; 95-98 Chris Knapp; 99-100 Mickey Klutts.

I think I can upgrade Moock. Standby.
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Old 10-19-2016, 02:13 PM   #29350
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Darold Knowles 1965

Boy this game can age you. Knowles in camp with the Orioles (1964 or 1965) and Cubs (1975 or 1976).
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Old 10-19-2016, 03:47 PM   #29351
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Joe Moock 1967

When this was taken at Shea Stadium in September, 1967, he might have been the second or third top position player prospect in the Mets' system. By the middle of the next season he was off the radar, untouched in the expansion draft, and sold to the first-year Expos. He hit a homer - Montreal's first - in an intrasquad game and remained in camp until the last round of cuts, but never played in the major leagues again.

Although I recall the Mets had some questions about his communicative skills, he wound up coaching a high school team back home in Louisiana.

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Old 10-19-2016, 03:57 PM   #29352
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George H. Burns

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Old 10-19-2016, 04:12 PM   #29353
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When this was taken at Shea Stadium in September, 1967, he might have been the second or third top position player prospect in the Mets' system. By the middle of the next season he was off the radar, untouched in the expansion draft, and sold to the first-year Expos.
Sold, yes, but as part of the 1968 minor league draft on December 2 (I believe the fee was $25,000). The Mets were more upset at losing Juan Rios, who also went to Montreal in the minor league draft. Rios was the player the Royals had targeted in that draft, but Montreal picked ahead of them (KC then purchased his contract from Montreal). Moock made it through the regular phase of the minor league draft, but there was a supplementary phase for just the expansion teams that year and Moock went in that one.

Joe coached both baseball and football at a Baton Rouge high school, and he taught history as well. He spent 22 years with that school and was well praised by his kids.
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Old 10-20-2016, 03:11 AM   #29354
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The Vault runneth over!

Wow. Hope this isn't the Vault last hurrah before a long winter's nap. But 20 more images dropped sometime very late Wednesday, meaning 80 total!

All in Folder KD: 101-104 Cal Koonce; 105-108 Gary Kolb; 109-110 Steven Kokor (Giants min.), 111-112 Pete Koegel; 113-114 John Knox; 115-116 Steve Kline; 117-118 Bob Dernier; 119-120 Chip Lang.
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Old 10-20-2016, 07:02 PM   #29355
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Just looked at Baseball-Reference. They regard that supplemental draft as the regular Rule 5 draft. Since Moock never played in the majors, none of the transactions he was a part of are listed on his page.
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Just looked at Baseball-Reference. They regard that supplemental draft as the regular Rule 5 draft. Since Moock never played in the majors, none of the transactions he was a part of are listed on his page.
moock played 3b
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Trouble with the Vault?

Just wanted to check - for more than a couple of hours I haven't been able to connect to the Auction Helper page that hosts the TV images. Never had this happen before and would like to make sure it isn't something on my end. Have others experienced this?
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Just wanted to check - for more than a couple of hours I haven't been able to connect to the Auction Helper page that hosts the TV images. Never had this happen before and would like to make sure it isn't something on my end. Have others experienced this?
It's not you. But I was able to access it earlier this afternoon and download all the TV images that have been dropped in Folder KD so far. If it stays down for an extended period, let me know what you were looking for.
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moock played 3b
I stand corrected on his playing in the bigs with the Mets, but still, his transactions history aren't listed.

I think that first-year expansion teams that chose players in the Rule 5 draft did not have to return them if they didn't make the final 25 roster.

Looks like Moock was dealt to the Braves by the Expos during the '70 season and retired afterwards.
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This is the information equivalent of Topps posting all of its remaining million-plus images simultaneously.

Veteran SABR research guru Bill Hickman has released his master list of a) everybody who made a major league mid-season roster but did not appear in a game, b) everybody who appeared on spring training rosters 1928-2007 but never played in a regular season major league game, and were that somehow not enough, c) all the non-roster invitees between 1950 and 1999 including the 1995 "replacement" players.

Near Major Leaguers and the 'Bill Sharman Society' | Society for American Baseball Research

Please stand well back from your computers when you open the file.

(I will check my research on the Bill Sharman Society against Mr. Hickman's but I really doubt I have anybody he doesn't!)

PS Boy was I mistaken. I've got 35 guys on my list he doesn't have on his. I'll keep you posted.
Yeah, the first guy I thought of was Robert "Whitey" Thomson of the 1951 Pirates, who we discussed both here and on Baseball-Birthdays. Not on Hickman's list.

Still, 35 is a surprisingly large number to miss.

Although I do see he came down on the "yes" side of The Great Billy Cotton Controversy, so that's good, IMO.
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