Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack

[Buster Narum]

Originally Posted by baseball-birthdays.com

In any event, it's not a "lynching" of any sort. OOTP has asked that we follow the guidelines quoted above - and anyone who's been around this forum and paid any attention at all to matters concerning ToppsVault images cannot be unaware of the sensitivity OOTP has about this stuff. Why is that a difficult thing?

Exactly. Just some discretion and judgment and an understanding of why certain things need to be kept under the radar as much as possible here on OOTP.

John, I hope you'll reconsider your decision to tank everything. It's just so useful to so many of us, and it's a big loss.

Thank you.

[SPORTSMEM817]

An image that was on google for a while ithink it stil has several variations floating around

[Rainmaker]

Matching gaps in numbers with Topps' tendancy to alphabetize things as much as possible, we have been able to logically place 21 of the "orphan" Topps Vault images in Folder AE.

These additions include Frank Thomas (6), Lenny Greeen (6), Jim Gosger (6), Billy Goodman (2), Gary Gentry (1), Phil Gagliano (1), John Gabler (1) and Willie Davis (1).

These additions have been placed in the Folder AE checklist at Chop Country. Folder AE, which now has 199 items, can be sent out on request on a private message. None of these images will be posted here.

[FatJack]

Originally Posted by SPORTSMEM817

An image that was on google for a while ithink it stil has several variations floating around

Well, now I feel like I have to post my colorized Fidel. I hope everybody knows that all that stuff about him being a "prospect" is bunk. A lot of it was made up in this country--not even Fidel trying to build a legend. Don Hoak played a big part in the whole thing. He and a sportswriter "conspired" to tell a tall tale in print (Hoak's career was over and I'm guessing he needed the money. I'm not sure what the sportswriter's motivation was). They borrowed some details of things that actually happened in Cuba, but neither Hoak nor Fidel were present for any of it. The year in question, Hoak didn't do winter ball and Fidel was in jail (and not even in Havana).

Fidel did throw hard, by all accounts, but was wild. He was never a prospect, no one scouted him, tales of bonus money offered are ridiculous since the organization allegedly making the offer (the Senators) were cheap as hell. And Fidel never wanted a baseball career anyway. He was a spoiled rich kid who was going to become a lawyer and make money. Baseball didn't pay the kind of salary to compete with that.

Anyway, the B&W for this image was on something called "scoopfest", which is sort of like Pinterest. I obliterated the other people in the shot on purpose (they served no function). This is from the 1959 exhibition where Fidel's team was Los Barbudos, which means "The Bearded Ones".

[dennis_keith]

There is also a photo floating around somewhere of Fidel Castro sitting and talking with Minnie Minoso. (I can't be sure, but I think I might have seen it more than 15 years ago in a visit to the Baseball Hall Of Fame's Photo Archive & Library). Taken in 1959, just after the revolution succeeded in gaining control of the government, but before Castro began repressing the people, it could be argued that Minoso and Castro were the two most popular living people in Cuba at that time.

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

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[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

More Castro from worthpoint.com. Even one with Jimmy Carter.

[dennis_keith]

Originally Posted by rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com

here is the photo I think that you were talking about. I found it on worthpoint.com

Absolutely right! Thanks!.

[Merkle923]

Honest to God, remember when this was a thread of photos of Major League Baseball players? With associated threads for coaches, managers, and minor leaguers?

[Rainmaker]

In the name of getting baseball photos posted again, discovered this nice shot of Pee Wee Reese during his final season, 1958, which of course was the Dodgers' first year out West.
Reese lost his regular job the season before and was only a part-time player in 1958 at age 40. He retired at year's end to become a Dodgers coach, passing on a chance to stay active as a player with the Cleveland Indians.
This image appeared in the BA folder. The only non-airbrushed Topps card of Reese in an L.A. cap I've seen was in a 1992 set made for Ziploc! There were a couple of team-issued or regional sets including him made in '58, but were black-and-white or primitive colorization.

[Rainmaker]

Checklist correction:

BT199 (shown here) is Ray Crone, not Gene Conley. Crone much scarcer in the Vault so far.



Also found were several images that should have been in the ABC checklist. Four were black and white, three were color, including ABC939, Fritz Ackley:



931 Al Schroll (B&W)
933 Tony Gonzalez (B&W)
934 Ray Ripplemeyer (B&W)
936 Jerry May (B&W)
938 Steve Bilko (color and B&W images)
939 Fritz Ackley (color)
941 Don Landrum (color)

[dennis_keith]

I came across a bit of trivia that interests me, which you might also find interesting.


Question:
Who are the Oldest living players who played part of their careers In the Post-1960 Expansion Era, after the leagues had expanded from 8 to 10 teams and after the schedule had expanded from 154 games to 162 games?


Answers:
MLB:
1. Jim Rivera - age 95 - played his final season of a 10 year career in 1961 with the White Sox and KC Athletics.
2. Red Schoendienst - age 93 - continued to play with the Cardinals to wind up a 19 year career, until the 1963 all-star game break
3. Bob Cerv - age 91. Finished a 12 year career by playing through 1962, but not before having played for expansion teams in both leagues - 1961 Los Angeles Angles (A.L) and the 1962 Houston Colt .45s (N.L.), as well as playing for the New York Yankees for parts of those two seasons.


American League
1. Rivera.
2. Cerv.


National League
1. Schoendienst.
2. Cerv.


My photo request is does anyone have photos to post of Bob Cerv in both of his expansion team uniforms ['61 - Angles; '62 - Colt .45s - (present day Astros)].

[SDL]

Originally Posted by Rainmaker

In the name of getting baseball photos posted again, discovered this nice shot of Pee Wee Reese during his final season, 1958, which of course was the Dodgers' first year out West.
Reese lost his regular job the season before and was only a part-time player in 1958 at age 40. He retired at year's end to become a Dodgers coach, passing on a chance to stay active as a player with the Cleveland Indians.
This image appeared in the BA folder. The only non-airbrushed Topps card of Reese in an L.A. cap I've seen was in a 1992 set made for Ziploc! There were a couple of team-issued or regional sets including him made in '58, but were black-and-white or primitive colorization.

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If I hadn't double-checked on baseball-reference, I would still be thinking that Reese retired before The Great Move Westward....

[cheech411]

reds on e bay

[cheech411]

Originally Posted by SDL

If I hadn't double-checked on baseball-reference, I would still be thinking that Reese retired before The Great Move Westward....

played in la

[Rainmaker]

[Chickazoola]

I've located two different photos of Lyman Drake, who played two games for the 1884 Washington Nationals (UA). He became a superintendent for a reform school later in life. The photos appeared in the June 7, 1904 Des Moines Register and the October 16, 1905 Minneapolis Journal. The second one is better quality.

[baseball-birthdays.com]

Bob DiPietro, 1951 Boston Red Sox. DiPietro's major league career consisted of four late September games for the '51 Sox (dunno when the photo was taken since the '51 sleeve patch is missing). I've seen three other b&w images of this player, none very good. This one's a cleaned sample from a scan of a recently purchased photo.

***edited to add- the baseball-reference photo on DiPietro's page (a severely square-jawed guy in a Louisville Colonels uniform) ain't him... I have eight other DiPietro images in my files, and the bb-ref image, taken from a lexibell scan IDed as DiPietro, is the one outlier.

[FatJack]

Marlan Coughtry, an infielder who played for four teams over 2 major league seasons, passed away on November 8. He was 82.

A site search turned up Vault images of Coughtry with Kansas City, a color head shot from the Angels, and a B&W of Coughtry with Cleveland posted by Merkle. There was a discussion of a Brace Boston image and litigation, but no actual Boston image. No Boston images turned up in google or eBay searches, either.

This B&W image of Coughtry with Boston (which looks like a team issued postcard) was posted with his obituary. I apologize if its one everyone else has already seen (and seen better). I did play with the saturation and exposure a bit, enlarged it slightly and cropped it (removing the white border). For whatever its worth.