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[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by itshim99

Hey Lukas is it just me or do fielding ratings seem to be inflated? Daniel Murphy for instance. As far as I have heard, he is not a good defender. Everybody just seems pretty high in terms of fielding ratings. Maybe it is done on purpose for whatever reason.

Yes, I think this is probably true.

To be honest, I'm not sure if it's done on purpose or if it's an unintended issue. Will try to talk it over with Markus at some point in the not too distant future. We'll see where it goes from there!

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by qcbandits

Began looking at the rosters in the new patch earlier today, Prospect ratings look quite a bit better. But, I'd suggest Harrison Bader needs a look at again. First off you guys have him as 3 years professional time. He was just drafted last June. Secondly, he probably needs a boost in ratings. He's most definitely in the Cards top 20 prospects. He made it to Peoria in the midwest league early on after the draft and hit very well. Now this year he skipped the Florida state league and is absolutely raking at AA. MLB.com ranks him as the Cards #10 prospect
Thanks for considering this

Fair point. He's hard to peg, but I think we definitely had him a bit low. Made some adjustments and I think he looks better now. Let me know what you think!

[qcbandits]

Originally Posted by lukasberger

Fair point. He's hard to peg, but I think we definitely had him a bit low. Made some adjustments and I think he looks better now. Let me know what you think!

appreciate it Lukas, I ended up giving Bader, Reyes and DeJong all some minor increases. It made the Cards top 20 look more realistic. I ended up with Bader as my 8th best prospect, DeJong at 11 and of course I had to have Reyes ranked 1st.. It just wasn't realistic seeing Tim Cooney as my top prospect haha

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by qcbandits

appreciate it Lukas, I ended up giving Bader, Reyes and DeJong all some minor increases. It made the Cards top 20 look more realistic. I ended up with Bader as my 8th best prospect, DeJong at 11 and of course I had to have Reyes ranked 1st.. It just wasn't realistic seeing Tim Cooney as my top prospect haha

Cooney was drastically overrated Fixed him now.

[Lukas Berger]

I also boosted DeJong, just a bit, as he's something of a personal favorite.

As for Reyes, he's ridiculously highly rated as it is. If he's not a top prospect, that's more a game issue than a ratings issue imo, where the game may value control a bit too much. Will keep an eye on this and see what adjustments may be needed.

[joe23]

Hi, good afternoon

Could you guys check on IFA Kevin Maitan potential ratings? I checked his potentials in the editor and it has the numbers of a near 5 star ovr player. So why he is rated so low by a human controlled team scout? I used multiples teams to check if it was only my team scout. No, everyone has him at 1- or 2 stars potential. OSA has him at 5 stars. With scouting turned off his potentials go to 3 star. Because the game rates him so poorly he finishes signing for less than a $1M bonus. He is the top IFA prospect in real life, shouldn't he be rated more highly? Scouts like him a lot.

Apologies if i sounded rude.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by joe23

Hi, good afternoon

Could you guys check on IFA Kevin Maitan potential ratings? I checked his potentials in the editor and it has the numbers of a near 5 star ovr player. So why he is rated so low by a human controlled team scout? I used multiples teams to check if it was only my team scout. No, everyone has him at 1- or 2 stars potential. OSA has him at 5 stars. With scouting turned off his potentials go to 3 star. Because the game rates him so poorly he finishes signing for less than a $1M bonus. He is the top IFA prospect in real life, shouldn't he be rated more highly? Scouts like him a lot.

Apologies if i sounded rude.

The scouting related stuff you're describing isn't anything that our editing his ratings could fix. That being said, I do think he was rated a bit too low given the reports on him, so I've given him a fairly big boost.

[vegaspomeranians]

Just wondering if guys like Tanner Roark, Wilson Ramos, and Daniel Murphy will get a boost in ratings. Yeah I'm a Nats fan. I would also expect Werth, Espinosa, and maybe Zimmerman (good exit velocity but not getting the ball to drop where fielders aren't) to drop in ratings too.

I guess I could edit ratings on my own, but I'd like it done officially because I might overdo it. I try to follow other teams too so there's other guys that I think should get a big boost or a big drop too. But when the weather gets better, guys hit better so maybe I should wait another month to see if some guys that are struggling start to hit.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by vegaspomeranians

Just wondering if guys like Tanner Roark, Wilson Ramos, and Daniel Murphy will get a boost in ratings. Yeah I'm a Nats fan. I would also expect Werth, Espinosa, and maybe Zimmerman (good exit velocity but not getting the ball to drop where fielders aren't) to drop in ratings too.

I guess I could edit ratings on my own, but I'd like it done officially because I might overdo it. I try to follow other teams too so there's other guys that I think should get a big boost or a big drop too. But when the weather gets better, guys hit better so maybe I should wait another month to see if some guys that are struggling start to hit.

It's just too early to start changing ratings for the most part. Especially for established guys like Murphy. It's really, really unlikely he's actually improved this much at his age imo and the batting average is clearly fluky high and unsustainable long term.

Anything's possible, I guess, but I'd definitely wait another month or two to see what happens in a larger sample.

We'll almost certainly try to release a semi-official Sept 1st update that will include some adjusted ratings for guys having great or bad years.

[rakosnik]

Originally Posted by haveband

Soler has yet to play an Inning at any other position than RF in the majors or minors. Zobrist has played 8 games in a long MLB career at 3b and only 9 games many years ago in the minors. Baez has played exactly 1 inning at 1b in his entire career and he's also never played an inning of OF according to Baseball reference.

I realize Maddon loves playing guys all over the place, but until they actual begin playing those positions, we'll leave the defensive ratings as they are for now.

This doesn't mention Schwarber at all. In OOTP 17 Kyle Schwarber doesn't have a rating at catcher at all. He has a Catcher arm rated at 41 and Cather ability of 26. In real life at all levels of baseball he has played 93 games at catcher (more than any other position) and 759.2 innings (more than any other position). Before he was injured this season the Cubs planned on Schwarber being the personal catcher of Jason Hamel. With all of that he should have some kind of a rating at the catching position and perhaps his ratings for catching ability and catcher arm should be higher.

I'm going to edit Schwarber's catcher ratings. What would be fair ratings for his rating at catcher, catching ability and catcher arm?

[The Yurpman]

I just began a new MLB QS with the Red Sox and Moncada and Benintendi aren't in the top 100 prospects anymore. Moncada was frequently in the top 10 prior to this last patch. Now he's out of the top 100.

Just an observation.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by The Yurpman

I just began a new MLB QS with the Red Sox and Moncada and Benintendi aren't in the top 100 prospects anymore. Moncada was frequently in the top 10 prior to this last patch. Now he's out of the top 100.

Just an observation.

Hmm. I know Markus and Matt changed the criteria for the prospect lists, looks like that may be an unintended consequence. We'll look at it and sort it out.

[Lukas Berger]

Ok, looks like the list is totally screwed up now We'll talk it over with Markus and Matt and figure something out.

[Elysian Fields]

Keuchel, I think, should have a Sinker pitch added to his pitch profile. It's his main pitch in real life.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by Elysian Fields

Keuchel, I think, should have a Sinker pitch added to his pitch profile. It's his main pitch in real life.

Fixed, along with his other pitches

[mgom27]

Next update lots of Royals need updated mostly the recent callups so that Snider doesn't make 25 man Roster. The Computer thinks Colon should be starting 3B and not Chestor Cuthbert who's in Triple-A where Colon should be.

[Quinton_Upchurch]

Chris A. Jones - just called up by the Angels - is listed at 165 lbs in the game. Should be around 205

[kcharles520]

noticed quite a few erroneous pitch repertoires:

n. eovaldi: OOTP gives him cutter and changeup despite 0% use in real life, yet doesn't give him a splitter which he throws 25% of the time
c. kluber: curveball is top-rated pitch in-game (0% RL); yet no slider (16% in RL)
m. bumgarner: has sinker (0% RL), slider (0% RL) and changeup (3% RL) yet no cutter (34% RL)
s. strasburg: has sinker yet no slider (15% RL)
j. fernandez: slider is 2nd rated pitch despite 0% use in RL
Velocity is also off on many pitchers (ex: a. cashner throws an avg fastball of 95 yet the game has him in the 97-99 mph range)

all the percentages are based on pitch/fx data, available at BrooksBaseball.net: Home of the PITCHf/x Tool - Player Cards.

Yes, perhaps i'm nitpicking a little w/ this...however, OOTP's game engine is hyper-realistic, so it kind of bugs me that simple stuff, like pitch types and velocity is so far-off the mark. It's one thing if it's minor leagues, but we're talking about actual MLB pitchers, even elite ones. It's something that should definitely be looked at more closely for OOTP18 rosters.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by kcharles520

Yes, perhaps i'm nitpicking a little w/ this...however, OOTP's game engine is hyper-realistic, so it kind of bugs me that simple stuff, like pitch types and velocity is so far-off the mark. It's one thing if it's minor leagues, but we're talking about actual MLB pitchers, even elite ones. It's something that should definitely be looked at more closely for OOTP18 rosters.

Appreciate all this. We certainly will try to take a look at everyone for OOTP18. Unfortunately we didn't quite get to it this year as only have limited manpower and stuff will fall through the cracks on occasion

[kcharles520]

Originally Posted by lukasberger

Appreciate all this. We certainly will try to take a look at everyone for OOTP18. Unfortunately we didn't quite get to it this year as only have limited manpower and stuff will fall through the cracks on occasion

for sure, i'd rather have a realistic, functioning game engine than perfect pitch repertoires or whatever. I also realize this is first year w/ actual MLB license, so it's not going to be 100% spot-on.

it's just one of those small things that can definitely be worked on in future versions. i'll try to turn a blind eye to it for now b/c the game itself is very good.