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Old 03-28-2017, 05:38 PM   #30581
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Question for the board

For my future reference as well as others, does a Rule V acquisition who was returned to his original club -- and who never appeared in the majors -- belong in the minor league thread or is he considered worthy? I have a photo of him with the team who drafted him but did not keep him!
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Old 03-28-2017, 06:09 PM   #30582
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For my future reference as well as others, does a Rule V acquisition who was returned to his original club -- and who never appeared in the majors -- belong in the minor league thread or is he considered worthy? I have a photo of him with the team who drafted him but did not keep him!
If he ever played in the majors (or was a Sharmanite), he belongs here. If he was a career minor leaguer, he belongs in the minor league thread.
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Old 03-28-2017, 10:07 PM   #30583
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General Baseball Image Discussion Thread

Having heard no public or private objection to starting a new thread, I launched the General Baseball Image Discussion thread today. As I mentioned in my post this past weekend, my intent is to re-sharpen the focus of this thread to those topics and posts related to the Facepack, Pegasus27 Batters Pack and Pitchers Pack, and as a function of these projects, the ongoing Topps Vault catalog. Other topics and posts related to major league images and player discussions are better placed in the new thread, for which I have added a link in the lower-right corner of my signature.

In the coming weeks I will move off-topic posts from this thread to the new thread while we all become more accustomed to the new format.
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Old 03-28-2017, 10:44 PM   #30584
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The Pegasus File

I noticed that it has been a few months since you have been able to update the UIN file that has gone into such detail for missing photos. I have posted at least one file of updates here, but I wanted to go ahead and pass along some newer revisions I've seen before I lose them.

A's images
Rick Lysander is GV973-974
Souza is GU496-497
Juan Pizarro was posted by When Topps had (Base)Balls:
Name:  217a Juan Pizarro.jpg
Views: 1303
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Angels
David W. Smith is HL059

Twins
Ruben Gomez in a fan photo that has been posted; Gomez originally ID'd as Valdespino.
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Old 03-28-2017, 11:29 PM   #30585
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New in the KG folder...

141 Pete Stanicek
142 Tug McGraw
143 ???
144 ???
145 Bryn Smith
146 ???
147 Keith Moreland
148 Bob Stanley
149 Willie Smith
150 Jackie Moore
151 Sammy Stewart
152 Luis Sojo
153 ???
154 ???
155 Bill Slayback
156 Bob Montgomery
157 Charlie Moore
158 ???
159 Tommy Smith
160 Paul Splittorff


A few I couldn't ID.
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Old 03-28-2017, 11:47 PM   #30586
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143- Hector Lopez
144- Jose Sosa
153- Archie Moore
154- Sterling Slaughter
158- Scipio Spinks

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Old 03-28-2017, 11:52 PM   #30587
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I noticed that it has been a few months since you have been able to update the UIN file that has gone into such detail for missing photos. ...
I've tried to keep up but since November I've been less comprehensive in my forum review and list updating. If there are UIN updates I've missed beyond those you posted, please let me know.

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Juan Pizarro was posted by When Topps had (Base)Balls:
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Photoshopped images such as the Pizarro/A's image generally do not qualify for the UIN list. Neither Pegasus nor I consider them "true" player/team images, realizing that this may result in some UIN entries remaining on the list in perpetuity.

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David W. Smith is HL059
I was unable to locate this image after a cursory search. Would you please link to it or share it again?
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Old 03-28-2017, 11:54 PM   #30588
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The Juan Pizzaro/Oakland shot...

...as described by the fabricator, is a "transplant" job (and I might add an obvious one; the face is lit by a flash, probably in an image taken after dark, but the rest of the image clearly shows daylight).

http://whentoppshadballs.blogspot.co...n-pizarro.html

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The reason it took so long for me to accomplish this was because I could never find an image of him in an Oakland uniform in color, so I resorted to some Photoshop work and came up with what you see here for the long time hurler.
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Old 03-29-2017, 12:05 AM   #30589
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...as described by the fabricator, is a "transplant" job (and I might add an obvious one; the face is lit by a flash, probably in an image taken after dark, but the rest of the image clearly shows daylight).

http://whentoppshadballs.blogspot.co...n-pizarro.html

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The reason it took so long for me to accomplish this was because I could never find an image of him in an Oakland uniform in color, so I resorted to some Photoshop work and came up with what you see here for the long time hurler.
His mention of "...an image of him in an Oakland uniform in color..." (emphasis mine) leads me to believe that there may be at least a B&W image out there somewhere, though I have not seen one.
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Old 03-29-2017, 07:25 AM   #30590
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David W. Smith is HL059
On the following webpage: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...4046&page=1525

Rainmaker indicated that David W. Smith was in photos MF 947 and 948 in an Angels uniform.
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Old 03-29-2017, 09:43 AM   #30591
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Chris Donnels Red Sox

Came from Pin interest a while back
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Old 03-29-2017, 10:39 AM   #30592
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Red Sox E's

Needed:
EVANS, Bill (with Sox, something other than the BR head-shot)
EGGERT, Mose (anything better than the newspaper image floating around out there)
EIBEL, Hack (need with Sox)
EVANS, Al (Sox)

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Old 03-29-2017, 12:07 PM   #30593
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Sometimes this board moves quickly!

My untrained eye (and, I'm sure, wishful thinking) did not have Pizarro pegged as photoshop. Sorry about that.

Here is Smith as HL 059

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His image from the MF file was previously posted, as it took some time to ID him.

My previous post about a Pegasus image is on page 1503, Urbano Lugo with Expos.
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Old 03-29-2017, 01:29 PM   #30594
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[QUOTE=SDL;4177759]New in the KG folder...

141 Pete Stanicek
142 Tug McGraw
143 ???
144 ???
145 Bryn Smith
146 ???
147 Keith Moreland
148 Bob Stanley
149 Willie Smith
150 Jackie Moore
151 Sammy Stewart
152 Luis Sojo
153 ???
154 ???
155 Bill Slayback
156 Bob Montgomery
157 Charlie Moore
158 ???
159 Tommy Smith
160 Paul Splittorff


146 is Omar Moreno
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Old 03-29-2017, 08:42 PM   #30595
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Topps Vault posted today

Folder KG:161 to 240
161-162:Alan Trammell, 163-164:Larry Murray, 165-166:Ivan Murrell, 167-170:Rance Mullinicks, 171-172 Jerry Mumphrey, 173-174 Manny Muniz, 175-176 Steve Mura, 177-180 Cesar Geronimo 181-184 Buddy Bell, 185-186 Danny Murphy, 187-188 Dwayne Murphy, 189-190 John (Jack) Murphy, Cards MiLB, 191-192 Mike Murphy, Cubs MiLB, 193-196 Tom Murphy, 197-200 Tony Muser, 201-202 Willie Hernandez, 203-206 Ray Newman, 207-208 ?????, 209-210 Jim Nelson, 211-212 Mel Nelson, 213-214 Jim Nettles, 215-216 Ricky Nelson, 217-218 Tim Naehring, 219-220 Russ Nagelson, 221-224 Jose Morales, 225-226 Gary Neibauer, 227-228 Roger Nelson, 229-230 Doug Nelson, Pirates MiLB, 231-232 Julio Navarro, 233-234 Al Newman, 235-236 Jeff Newman, 237-238 Gene Nelson, 239-240 Fred Newman

Can't come up with 207-208's name, even if I think I know that face.
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Old 03-29-2017, 10:22 PM   #30596
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Lew Drill 1902

I posted his Horner photo awhile back, but this one is nice if you prefer him wearing a baseball cap.
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Old 03-29-2017, 10:24 PM   #30597
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Harry Raymond 1888

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Are you sure it was from Pinterest? I thought I recognized the file naming format and after a quick search, sure enough, it's an image I shared here five years ago.
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DUBUC, Jean (Sox)
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