Looking For "Friends" to join "Our League".

[Charlatan]

Here's a question for you guys: I just spent some time setting up my spreadsheet to track my players year-to-year. For the batters I have no problem using WAR, since that seems to be a reasonable way to track them. However, I find WAR much more problematic for pitchers - for relievers it seems totally useless.

OOTP has other stats like FIP, FIP-, WPA, rWAR - I don't know what most of those are and trying to google them hasn't helped.

So here's the question:

Is there a stat that I can use to track my pitchers' performance year-to-year?

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by joehart

Nice. We just went to the Falls the other day for breakfast and then enjoyed the festivities in Fall City (annual morning event).

We are in Redmond/Woodinville/ and Renton (homes/school/...).

I would not be surprised if 15-20% of the user base is from Washington state.
Would love to see someone create a user home base map.

I think Washington is a beautiful place to visit but my Texas genes are too ingrained to ever consider moving there. One of my grandsons is in the Navy stationed there though. I forgive him for breaking the 200+ year USMC tradition of our family . Semper Fi to any of my brothers that may be in OL. But, he is out on the sub and where or how long they will be there is always classified. He married a beautiful native Washington girl though last year. She is absolutely one of the sweetest young ladies I have ever known.

[stl jason]

Diamond league update:

Green Lake surges to the top of the OL standings thanks to a dominant performance over division rival Roncalli (13 wins / 2 losses, with 4 games remaining between them). Waffletown drops percentage points behind, and Palolo right on their heels.

edit... remaining OL games:

Green Lake - 7
Palolo - 3
Roncalli - 11
Seattle - 7
Southern - 0
Transylvania - 6
Waffletown - 6


In the overall picture... with the final stretch run upon us, OL teams currently hold down 5 playoff spots, and could make it 6 if the stars align just right.

AC East: As the summer heat arrived, Green Lake's play on the field became red hot as well. The Cowboys have rocketed to the top spot in the division and enjoy a 7.5 game lead over OL and division rival Transylvania (who hold the top wild card spot). Roncalli is looking to play spoiler down the stretch as their own post season chances are slim to none.

AC Central: Seattle has dropped 1 game back of the division lead behind St Kitts. They sit 3.5 games back of a wild card spot, so a Central division title will hopefully an easier target.

NC East: Southern has remained solid from month to month and still enjoy a double digit lead in the standings. Their main focus now is passing Palolo to secure home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

NC Central: Palolo continues their relentless march to the best record in the league with yet another solid month, though they might be a little worried as Waffletown has cut their lead to single digits (only 9 games now).

[Edster007]

Originally Posted by stl jason

just add the Gold level teams to your friend's list and be sure to set your preferences to 'use friend's list' (see link below).... good idea to add the teams in the Diamond/Silver leagues as well to cover promotions/relegations (especially if you won't be around Sunday night to update your list)

Our league friends list

Please add:

Edster007b
Everett Silvertips

They should make their way out of entry Monday morning and are OL compliant in large part to an Aaron Bummer live card that sold for 2300PP

[QuantaCondor]

P404 Update:

League records with one day to go, with as-it-stands playoff spots:
1) 74-59, Virginia Freeloaders (WC2)
2) 73-59, Ewa Beach Fighting Chickens (AL Central Leader)
3) 71-63, Cigar City Lagers (WC1)
4) 67-66, Bold Strategy Cottons (NC West Leader)
5) 60-72, California Quantum Condors
6) 59-76, Aina Haina Parakeets
7) 56-77, Kaneohe Mokes
8) 55-79, Battery Point Energizer Bunnies
9) 54-79, Luckenbach Armadillos

The Freeloaders look to have a WC spot virtually locked up, but will likely face a mega-whale in the first playoff round should they win the WC matchup. The Fighting Chickens have a strong hold on the divisional lead, but will face a whale in the first playoff round as well. The Cigar City Lagers cling to a 0.5 game lead on their WC2 spot, but will have a very tough road filled with whales should they make the playoffs. The Cottons probably have the easiest route of all the OL teams to the Perfect title, with a NFTP matchup looming in the first round. It's also worth noting that the wOBA (2nd) and FIP (3rd) performance of the Cottons suggests a much stronger team than their current run differential suggests (3rd in runs, 14th in runs against).

The relegation bar sits at 52-81, so the last day will be interesting. The upcoming OL newcomers, the Minneapolis Gauchos (55-78), are fighting relegation along with the Energizer Bunnies and the Armadillos.

[stl jason]

fun snippet from the Diamond league.... only 7 of the 30 teams are from OL, but from a leaderboard perspective... all three leaders in batting average and runs scored are OL teams, and 2 of 3 leaders in all three pitching categories are OL teams....

and the top 4 in weekly power rankings are OL teams.... hopefully we're all peaking at the right time for a solid post season run.

[QuantaCondor]

Originally Posted by Charlatan

Here's a question for you guys: I just spent some time setting up my spreadsheet to track my players year-to-year. For the batters I have no problem using WAR, since that seems to be a reasonable way to track them. However, I find WAR much more problematic for pitchers - for relievers it seems totally useless.

OOTP has other stats like FIP, FIP-, WPA, rWAR - I don't know what most of those are and trying to google them hasn't helped.

So here's the question:

Is there a stat that I can use to track my pitchers' performance year-to-year?

FIP- is probably the best metric out there. FIP is just walks+HR-strikeouts, with some constant factors thrown in there to make each outcome matter the appropriate amount (a HR is worse than a walk, so they should contribute differently to FIP). FIP- just takes all the FIPs out there and removes park bias. So, a pitcher in a hitters park vs. a pitcher's park can be compared directly using FIP-. Also, a FIP- of 101 is 1% worse than a league-average FIP of 100, so you have an easy comparison of how much better or worse a player is than average.

IMO, wRC+ is the best hitter metric out there, but WAR includes defense which might make it more useful overall.

[OMGPuppies]

Originally Posted by stl jason

fun snippet from the Diamond league.... only 7 of the 30 teams are from OL, but from a leaderboard perspective... all three leaders in batting average and runs scored are OL teams, and 2 of 3 leaders in all three pitching categories are OL teams....

and the top 4 in weekly power rankings are OL teams.... hopefully we're all peaking at the right time for a solid post season run.

Look at dem cute doggies! OL games are always tougher than non-OL.

[OMGPuppies]

Originally Posted by Charlatan

Here's a question for you guys: I just spent some time setting up my spreadsheet to track my players year-to-year. For the batters I have no problem using WAR, since that seems to be a reasonable way to track them. However, I find WAR much more problematic for pitchers - for relievers it seems totally useless.

OOTP has other stats like FIP, FIP-, WPA, rWAR - I don't know what most of those are and trying to google them hasn't helped.

So here's the question:

Is there a stat that I can use to track my pitchers' performance year-to-year?

Don’t forget that DH WAR will be a little lower due to not including defense.

[stl jason]

Originally Posted by OMGPuppies

Look at dem cute doggies! OL games are always tougher than non-OL.

Waffletown and Palolo wrapped up their divisional series with the Puppies taking 2 of 3, to claim the season series 10-9.... can't get much closer than that....

and checking my lifetime team-v-team tracker.... that evens the series between the two teams to 29 wins and 29 losses each...

[OMGPuppies]

Originally Posted by stl jason

Waffletown and Palolo wrapped up their divisional series with the Puppies taking 2 of 3, to claim the season series 10-9.... can't get much closer than that....

and checking my lifetime team-v-team tracker.... that evens the series between the two teams to 29 wins and 29 losses each...

One of the great things about OL. These rivalries.

[Goliathus]

Originally Posted by Charlatan

Here's a question for you guys: I just spent some time setting up my spreadsheet to track my players year-to-year. For the batters I have no problem using WAR, since that seems to be a reasonable way to track them. However, I find WAR much more problematic for pitchers - for relievers it seems totally useless.

OOTP has other stats like FIP, FIP-, WPA, rWAR - I don't know what most of those are and trying to google them hasn't helped.

So here's the question:

Is there a stat that I can use to track my pitchers' performance year-to-year?

If you want to understand those stats, I recommend fangraphs.com. I really like the explanation there and find it the most helpful out of all my google results when I search the sabermetric stats.

Originally Posted by OMGPuppies

Don’t forget that DH WAR will be a little lower due to not including defense.

Others positions WAR might be negatively impacted by horrible defense too. I know PT forumers tend to play great defense, just stating it to cover all bases.

[OMGPuppies]

Originally Posted by QuantaCondor

P404 Update:

League records with one day to go, with as-it-stands playoff spots:
1) 74-59, Virginia Freeloaders (WC2)
2) 73-59, Ewa Beach Fighting Chickens (AL Central Leader)
3) 71-63, Cigar City Lagers (WC1)
4) 67-66, Bold Strategy Cottons (NC West Leader)
5) 60-72, California Quantum Condors
6) 59-76, Aina Haina Parakeets
7) 56-77, Kaneohe Mokes
8) 55-79, Battery Point Energizer Bunnies
9) 54-79, Luckenbach Armadillos

The Freeloaders look to have a WC spot virtually locked up, but will likely face a mega-whale in the first playoff round should they win the WC matchup. The Fighting Chickens have a strong hold on the divisional lead, but will face a whale in the first playoff round as well. The Cigar City Lagers cling to a 0.5 game lead on their WC2 spot, but will have a very tough road filled with whales should they make the playoffs. The Cottons probably have the easiest route of all the OL teams to the Perfect title, with a NFTP matchup looming in the first round. It's also worth noting that the wOBA (2nd) and FIP (3rd) performance of the Cottons suggests a much stronger team than their current run differential suggests (3rd in runs, 14th in runs against).

The relegation bar sits at 52-81, so the last day will be interesting. The upcoming OL newcomers, the Minneapolis Gauchos (55-78), are fighting relegation along with the Energizer Bunnies and the Armadillos.

Thank you for doing this. Checking in while on vacation in Worshington. Do you have our records vs.only OL teams?

[QuantaCondor]

Originally Posted by OMGPuppies

Thank you for doing this. Checking in while on vacation in Worshington. Do you have our records vs.only OL teams?

I'll post the full OL matchups in a couple hours (and update after the regular season concludes). Just after I finish my cross-country Minneapolis-to-LA moving drive.

[OMGPuppies]

Originally Posted by QuantaCondor

I'll post the full OL matchups in a couple hours (and update after the regular season concludes). Just after I finish my cross-country Minneapolis-to-LA moving drive.

Wow. That is a huge change.

[Edster007]

Looks like the Mets are are in control. They have 3 OL games left and need to win one to clinch it. If the Mets lose all three either one of both Redmond teams (Birds 3 OL gms left, Crusaders 4) or San Pedro (9 gms remaining) would have to win all their remaining OL games to take over the lead.

[Edster007]

Trying to get ahead as I have a busy day tomorrow. Here is where Bronze stands. I did not figure out the mathematical possibilities but I can tell you you there 76 OL games left to be played

[QuantaCondor]

Originally Posted by OMGPuppies

Wow. That is a huge change.

Eh, that's the grad school life for you . But I chose this, so it's all good.

[allenciox]

So... for a long time, my Southpaws team was my worst team... it was mediocre at best. It somehow got to a playoff in the first few seasons that took it to Diamond level, but was horrible after that point.. in fact, getting relegated back to gold after a few seasons.

Then about four weeks ago, I drew Willie Mays (99) in a challenge mode pack. I sold him for 158k, netting about 143k PP.

It's pretty amazing how 143k PP can turn around a team. The next season I won over 100 games in Gold, moved to diamond, and then last year in Diamond, I won 109 games, meanwhile, I made my team OL - compliant. I lost in the first round of the playoffs so the team is back in Diamond facing other OL teams this year.

Not doing so well in our OL games this year, but it does appear that the team will win at least 100 games this year too.

Good luck, everyone in the playoffs! Of course, I won't mind so much if I lose in the first round again... this team excels in Diamond, not sure how it will do in Perfect (but I do expect it is now my "best" team).

[OMGPuppies]

Originally Posted by allenciox

So... for a long time, my Southpaws team was my worst team... it was mediocre at best. It somehow got to a playoff in the first few seasons that took it to Diamond level, but was horrible after that point.. in fact, getting relegated back to gold after a few seasons.

Then about four weeks ago, I drew Willie Mays (99) in a challenge mode pack. I sold him for 158k, netting about 143k PP.

It's pretty amazing how 143k PP can turn around a team. The next season I won over 100 games in Gold, moved to diamond, and then last year in Diamond, I won 109 games, meanwhile, I made my team OL - compliant. I lost in the first round of the playoffs so the team is back in Diamond facing other OL teams this year.

Not doing so well in our OL games this year, but it does appear that the team will win at least 100 games this year too.

Good luck, everyone in the playoffs! Of course, I won't mind so much if I lose in the first round again... this team excels in Diamond, not sure how it will do in Perfect (but I do expect it is now my "best" team).

Wth happened to Battery Point? My Parakeets and Mokes are stinking it up.