Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack - Page 1750

cinemaodyssey · 07-14-2021, 05:03 PM

Sometimes the Remini app can work minor miracles. The source image is almost unusable but I was pleased how the image cleaned up.

Jabez54 · 07-14-2021, 11:37 PM

That is really awesome!! A real boon for creating quality face photos of the bygone years!!

cinemaodyssey · 07-15-2021, 01:59 PM

The site baseball reference has done a lot of updating this year, with the addition of the Negro League statistics being especially exciting. But today I've noticed they may have jumped the shark a bit. Players like Chief Bender, Dummy Hoy and countless others have been changed from how they've been traditionally addressed. Now you have to type "Billy Hoy" or "Charles Bender" to get them to come up in the search engine. I have, up til now, tried to keep the Facepack listings consistent with Baseball Reference in how they address players but I'm undecided if I'll continue to do that.

tnfoto · 07-15-2021, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

The site baseball reference has done a lot of updating this year, with the addition of the Negro League statistics being especially exciting. But today I've noticed they may have jumped the shark a bit. Players like Chief Bender, Dummy Hoy and countless others have been changed from how they've been traditionally addressed. Now you have to type "Billy Hoy" or "Charles Bender" to get them to come up in the search engine. I have, up til now, tried to keep the Facepack listings consistent with Baseball Reference in how they address players but I'm undecided if I'll continue to do that.

I noticed this a while ago and asked the chair of the SABR Biographical History Committee for SABR's policy on the B-R change. I'll update when I receive a response.

tnfoto · 07-15-2021, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

The site baseball reference has done a lot of updating this year, with the addition of the Negro League statistics being especially exciting. But today I've noticed they may have jumped the shark a bit. Players like Chief Bender, Dummy Hoy and countless others have been changed from how they've been traditionally addressed. Now you have to type "Billy Hoy" or "Charles Bender" to get them to come up in the search engine. I have, up til now, tried to keep the Facepack listings consistent with Baseball Reference in how they address players but I'm undecided if I'll continue to do that.

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Originally Posted by tnfoto

I noticed this a while ago and asked the chair of the SABR Biographical History Committee for SABR's policy on the B-R change. I'll update when I receive a response.

I received a reply from SABR's Biographical History Chairman, who has not changed the "use name" for historical players and does not take an official position or stance on the baseball-reference decision to rename. I also downloaded the latest Chadwick database feed, updated two days ago, which is similarly unchanged.

At least for the time being, for SABR Pictorial History Committee tracking and photopack(s), I'll continue to keep the historical "use names" that the SABR Biographical History Committee and Chadwick recognize.

cinemaodyssey · 07-15-2021, 07:24 PM

Thanks, Scott. I think that's the best tactic to take at this point. I don't want to confuse newer baseball fans with revisionist baseball history.

DeweyintheHall · 07-15-2021, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

Thanks, Scott. I think that's the best tactic to take at this point. I don't want to confuse newer baseball fans with revisionist baseball history.

Concur.

I had hoped the happy little corner of the world that is the shared interest of all on this board might be spared but alas, it seems I was naive.

cinemaodyssey · 07-16-2021, 02:07 AM

Off the Pegasus UIN list, here's Shiver pictured with the 1934 Cincinnati Reds. The photo was featured in the April 25, 1934 edition of The Dayton Herald.

Cusick · 07-16-2021, 07:26 AM

Not sure why Shiver had been on the Pegasus UIN list for a Reds uniform, because a photo of him in a Cinci uni had been posted back in 2008. It can be seen as the final photo on the following page in a previous thread:

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...55954&page=293

In other words, don't look for it on page 293 in this thread.

tnfoto · 07-16-2021, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

Off the Pegasus UIN list, here's Shiver pictured with the 1934 Cincinnati Reds. The photo was featured in the April 25, 1934 edition of The Dayton Herald.

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Originally Posted by Cusick

Not sure why Shiver had been on the Pegasus UIN list for a Reds uniform, because a photo of him in a Cinci uni had been posted back in 2008...

Shiver/Reds had been on the UIN list as "need better", a step up from missing outright. It was listed that way probably because the uniform in the prior image had no visible logos and, according to Dressed to the Nines, was not the style used during his only season with the team.

cinemaodyssey · 07-16-2021, 03:33 PM

Requested quite awhile back, but here is Knight with the 1907 Boston Americans.

cinemaodyssey · 07-16-2021, 04:26 PM

Pictured with the 1908 Boston Americans

cinemaodyssey · 07-16-2021, 04:30 PM

Pictured during his very brief tenure with the 1908 Boston Americans.

DeweyintheHall · 07-16-2021, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

Pictured with the 1908 Boston Americans

Thanks!

rrb77 · 07-17-2021, 10:45 AM

cinemaodyssey, thank you for your recent finds particularly for the Boston Americans/Red Sox!

cinemaodyssey · 07-17-2021, 07:38 PM

The Remini app does a very nice job enhancing color pictures as well. This came from Brazle's 1953 Bowman baseball card.

infieldfly · 07-17-2021, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by cinemaodyssey

The Remini app does a very nice job enhancing color pictures as well. This came from Brazle's 1953 Bowman baseball card.

I've found that as well though I haven't actually tried it on a card image. I thought the moire pattern on those might give it problems. This one looks great though. I used that same image for my 1950 set but this is a vast improvement. May be looking at a lot of "re-do's".

cinemaodyssey · 07-17-2021, 08:53 PM

Here's another nice and crisp color update.

cinemaodyssey · 07-17-2021, 11:14 PM

Here's a nice enhancement of Cain's 1953 Bowman card.

cinemaodyssey · 07-18-2021, 08:36 PM

Facepack upgrade to replace the horrendous previous image. This 2 game major leaguer is pictured trying out in spring training for the 1913 Indianapolis team. Image comes from the March 12, 1913 edition of The Indianapolis News.

07-14-2021, 05:03 PM	#34981
cinemaodyssey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,005	Irv Porter 1914 Sometimes the Remini app can work minor miracles. The source image is almost unusable but I was pleased how the image cleaned up. Attached Images

07-14-2021, 11:37 PM	#34982
Jabez54 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Former Southie Posts: 2,128	That is really awesome!! A real boon for creating quality face photos of the bygone years!! __________________ Always a pleasure to stop in and visit the neighborhood!!

07-15-2021, 01:59 PM	#34983
cinemaodyssey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,005	Baseball Reference The site baseball reference has done a lot of updating this year, with the addition of the Negro League statistics being especially exciting. But today I've noticed they may have jumped the shark a bit. Players like Chief Bender, Dummy Hoy and countless others have been changed from how they've been traditionally addressed. Now you have to type "Billy Hoy" or "Charles Bender" to get them to come up in the search engine. I have, up til now, tried to keep the Facepack listings consistent with Baseball Reference in how they address players but I'm undecided if I'll continue to do that. Last edited by cinemaodyssey; 07-15-2021 at 02:02 PM.

07-16-2021, 02:07 AM	#34988
cinemaodyssey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,005	Ivey Shiver 1931 Off the Pegasus UIN list, here's Shiver pictured with the 1934 Cincinnati Reds. The photo was featured in the April 25, 1934 edition of The Dayton Herald. Attached Images

07-16-2021, 07:26 AM	#34989
Cusick Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 4,313	Ivey Shiver 1931 Not sure why Shiver had been on the Pegasus UIN list for a Reds uniform, because a photo of him in a Cinci uni had been posted back in 2008. It can be seen as the final photo on the following page in a previous thread: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...55954&page=293 In other words, don't look for it on page 293 in this thread.

07-15-2021, 07:24 PM	#34986
cinemaodyssey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,005	Thanks, Scott. I think that's the best tactic to take at this point. I don't want to confuse newer baseball fans with revisionist baseball history.

07-16-2021, 03:33 PM	#34991
cinemaodyssey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,005	John Knight 1905 Requested quite awhile back, but here is Knight with the 1907 Boston Americans. Attached Images

07-16-2021, 04:26 PM	#34992
cinemaodyssey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,005	Jim McHale 1908 Pictured with the 1908 Boston Americans Attached Images Last edited by cinemaodyssey; 07-16-2021 at 04:45 PM.

07-16-2021, 04:30 PM	#34993
cinemaodyssey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,005	Ed McFarland 1893 Pictured during his very brief tenure with the 1908 Boston Americans. Attached Images

07-17-2021, 10:45 AM	#34995
rrb77 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,294	cinemaodyssey, thank you for your recent finds particularly for the Boston Americans/Red Sox!

07-17-2021, 07:38 PM	#34996
cinemaodyssey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,005	Al Brazle 1943 The Remini app does a very nice job enhancing color pictures as well. This came from Brazle's 1953 Bowman baseball card. Attached Images

07-17-2021, 08:53 PM	#34998
cinemaodyssey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,005	Al Corwin 1951 Here's another nice and crisp color update. Attached Images

07-17-2021, 11:14 PM	#34999
cinemaodyssey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,005	Bob Cain 1949 Here's a nice enhancement of Cain's 1953 Bowman card. Attached Images

07-18-2021, 08:36 PM	#35000
cinemaodyssey Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,005	Ben H. Taylor 1912 Facepack upgrade to replace the horrendous previous image. This 2 game major leaguer is pictured trying out in spring training for the 1913 Indianapolis team. Image comes from the March 12, 1913 edition of The Indianapolis News. Attached Images