Gambo and T_Wil1 Photopack

[Dto7]

James Harris also played for the 1883 Altoona team. Article on James H. Harris who played in 1883. the article is from the 1887 Altoona Times.

[cinemaodyssey]

Interesting. I do have the 1883 Altoona team photo, though not every player is identified. I'll check and see if he matches any of the unidentified players.

[Chickazoola]

I have James Harris a missing player with no known photo or death date. Frank Harris is not the Altoona player and the image is also incorrect to my knowledge.

Here's what I have in my notes:

James H. Harris - known to be Philadelphia player - was reinstated from blacklist in 1887 after his jump to Altoona Unions in 1884.

[cinemaodyssey]

Much appreciated. I knew something was fishy with those stories. Unfortunately this adds another missing player to the list.

[Cusick]

This is not a case of something fishy. Instead you are witnessing progress in baseball research.

The tenth edition of TOTAL BASEBALL, published in 2001, listed as the 24-game 1884 Altoona major league player Frank W. Harris. That tome was the most popular baseball encyclopedia of the time. John Thorn, Baseball's current historian, was among its authors.

The original source for the Frank Harris image which launched this recent inquiry was The Sporting News, October 26, 1895, Page 1. SABR members can look up this reference via Paper of Record. So that image was valid, not fishy, for as long as Frank Harris was recognized as the major league player.

In the intervening period, research came to the attention of SABR's Biographical Committee, and the decision was made that the major leaguer was James Harris rather than Frank Harris. Thus, chickazoola's comment becomes pertinent that James Harris has become a missing player for pictorial history purposes.

[cinemaodyssey]

Probably a poor choice of words, but my point was that the original story merged the information of Frank W. Harris and James Harris. That is what led me to the original question as to if the image was indeed accurate. I've enlisted Thorn's help on a case or two and I would never belittle the work he has done.

[Dto7]

Al Clancy with the 1907 Albuquerque McIntosh Browns, from Al Clancy, Jr in the 1944 The Morning Herald in Hagerstown, Maryland.

[prewinter]

Originally Posted by tnfoto

Calling back to a nearly-three-year-old conversation related to this photo, here is a newspaper photo of Jiggs Parrott from 1891. It's better than the previous woodcut as far as identification, though not nearly as clear as the 1890 team photo in question.

Referencing back to that photo (and I apologize if positive IDs have been made earlier and I missed it), rather than the player seated, I believe Jiggs, listed at 5'11", 160 lbs., with a heavy, flat brow, is the player standing, second from right, next to 5'7" Bill Whitrock far right. I also believe that John Cahill is seated on the ground, lower right.

George McVey (identified as middle row far left) joined the Portland club in mid-September of 1890. The Tacoma Ledger wrote on September 15 “The features of the game were the fielding of McVey, Portland’s new short-stop…” (pg 6). From then until the end of the season, there were only twelve players on the Portland roster, plus the manager. This makes the likely players in the photo:
Edwin L. Breckinridge (6’ 2”); Frank S. Buchtel; John F. Cahill (5’ 7”); Bill Hassamer (6’ 0”); Harry V. Hulin; Gus Land (6’ 0”); George McVey (6’ 1”); Thomas Parrott (5’ 10”); Jiggs (Will) Parrott (5’ 11”); Joe Schachern (5’ 9”); Pat Whittaker (5’ 10”); Bill Wittrock (5’ 7”); Manager Henry Harris.

A photo of Buchtel is attached, as is one of Harry Hulin, which is found in a composite of the 1889 Stockton club, for whom he played under the name Howard. (See the San Francisco Call, November 2, 1890: 8.) I believe Hulin is the first player on the left in the back row, while Buchtel is in the front left.

I have not seen photos of Breckenridge, Land and Schachern. Schachern was signed by Baltimore briefly in 1895 or 1896 (lost track of the reference), but never played for them. The others were career minor leaguers.

[cinemaodyssey]

I've battled that team photo for a number of years. For what it's worth, I've gone back and forth between McVey and Perrier as that player in the middle row, far left. I'm still undecided. I've attached exemplars of Perrier, Hulin, George Rhue as players long considered to be in the lineup.
UKBaseball fan and myself both have seen the Buchtel image and agree with his placement.

[cinemaodyssey]

Also, here are Edwin Breckenridge, Harry O'Day and David Levy for your consideration. All were part of the team at some point.
I was unable to find images of Land or Schachern unfortunately. I also think J.G. Munday may be in the photo but I do not have a picture of him either.

[Cusick]

This is a photo of Joseph Schachern, Jr., son of the minor league player Joseph Schachern. Because he has such an unusual head shape, very thin and long, it might be useful in identifying his father in the Portland photo as the player second from left, middle row. The nose shape seems to be the same.

This photo comes from the Huntingdon (PA) Daily News of May 21, 1948. Another article about the wedding announcement ties him to his mother, Mrs. Joseph Schachern of Monaca, PA, which is the town where the ballplayer died in 1943.

[cinemaodyssey]

Nice find! Definitely looks like his father.

[rrb77]

1940 Red Sox....George Burke...from ebay seller thecatspajamas99

[rrb77]

1944 Cleveland Indians...George Burke..from thecatspajamas99

[cinemaodyssey]

Remini enhanced image of Orth with the 1899 Phillies.

[Home Free]

From no less a source than Darren Rovell:

Major League Baseball and the Major League Players Association have awarded the next trading card deal licences to Fanatics.

Topps will be out after 70 YEARS. (caps his)

CBS Sports adds that this deal does not go into effect until 2026, when Topps' current agreement with the MLBPA expires. Their site credits Jared Diamond of the Wall Street Journal with breaking the story.

Evan Dreliich of The Athletic has written that Fanatics, Inc., is also close to forming "partnerships" with the players associations of the NBA and NFL.

MLBPA executive director Tony Clark said in a just-released memo, " the total value of the deal is "more than 10 times bigger" than any that the union has ever struck, and is also part of a series of recent deals expected to generate nearly $2 billion in revenue through 2045."

News of the impending end of Major League Baseball's deal with Topps Co. comes just as the company was set to go public. According to City Index, Topps Co. is expected to go public in Q3 2021 through a SPAC merger with Murdick Capital.

[DeweyintheHall]

Originally Posted by home free

from no less a source than darren rovell:

Major league baseball and the major league players association have awarded the next trading card deal licences to fanatics.

Topps will be out after 70 years. (caps his)

cbs sports adds that this deal does not go into effect until 2026, when topps' current agreement with the mlbpa expires. Their site credits jared diamond of the wall street journal with breaking the story.

Evan dreliich of the athletic has written that fanatics, inc., is also close to forming "partnerships" with the players associations of the nba and nfl.

Mlbpa executive director tony clark said in a just-released memo, " the total value of the deal is "more than 10 times bigger" than any that the union has ever struck, and is also part of a series of recent deals expected to generate nearly $2 billion in revenue through 2045."

news of the impending end of major league baseball's deal with topps co. Comes just as the company was set to go public. According to city index, topps co. Is expected to go public in q3 2021 through a spac merger with murdick capital.

nooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[prewinter]

Originally Posted by tnfoto

From the 1891 Green Bay WI-MI League team photo. Thanks to SABR for image provision!

I realize this was a long time ago, but do you know how the identification was made for these two players in the 1891 Green Bay team photo?

[tnfoto]

Originally Posted by prewinter

I realize this was a long time ago, but do you know how the identification was made for these two players in the 1891 Green Bay team photo?

I am not certain how the ID was made. Perhaps Cusick can help?

[Cusick]

The photo was found by SABR member Richard Ulrich, who is now deceased. It was displayed in an unknown publication dated February 5, 2000. Players Ernie Beam and George McMillan were identified by name in the caption. See below.