3rd Straight Loss Due to AI Pitcher Mgmt - Page 2

Solonor · 07-10-2008, 08:42 AM

The problem is that we still don't have your league files, and we still don't know if you're running those games with the human in charge of substitutions. Any luck uploading?

Ambermonk · 07-10-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Solonor

The problem is that we still don't have your league files, and we still don't know if you're running those games with the human in charge of substitutions. Any luck uploading?

No luck uploading FTP files. Either I'm doing something wrong, or comcast doesn't allow FTP uploads.

On the other hand, I can assure you in these games that the entire game was being run by the AI manager - intentionally. If I were doing the substitutions then I would have only myself to blame.

Ambermonk · 07-10-2008, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Nutlaw

That's a tough one to log. Can you please try to provide some more examples?

The AI controlled pitcher (Silvestro) has allowed 12 hits in the game and just given up 2 more runs. He has pitched 121 pitches. Why is he still in the game? The AI controlled team is using the default strategy....

Addendum: pic2 shows that the AI manager left the pitcher in until he threw 138 pitches! Wow!

pstrickert · 07-10-2008, 08:50 PM

Does the other manager, here, let his pitcher (W. Spahn) bat?

Ambermonk · 07-10-2008, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

Does the other manager, here, let his pitcher (W. Spahn) bat?

That manager is me and, in this case, yes.

pstrickert · 07-10-2008, 08:52 PM

BTW, Abermonk, I had to do a double-take on your stadium pic. The one scoreboard shows Madonna, the other A-Rod?

Ambermonk · 07-10-2008, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

BTW, Abermonk, I had to do a double-take on your stadium pic. The one scoreboard shows Madonna, the other A-Rod?

My eyes are going bad. I didn't recognize either one of them.

Ambermonk · 07-10-2008, 08:57 PM

Here's a box score from my just completed game. Both teams were computer controlled. Castrovalva was set to quickest hook (as per my previous postings). Neither pitcher was replaced - and just look at both of the pitch counts. Holy Yogi Berra - 156 pitches!! What's going on?

BoHill · 07-11-2008, 08:09 PM

1) You need to individually set the pitch count limit for all your pitchers based on their specific endurance and age under the Action> Set Game Strategy tab at bottom of the player profile page. This has a major effect on hooking the pitcher when this pitch count limit is approximately reached. A setting of 110 pitches for a 16 (out of 20) endurance pitcher is about right on average, although you may want to lower the count slightly for a very young pitcher. (...95/13, 100/14, 105/15, 110/16, 115/17...etc.)

2) Also, check that you set the Hooking Starting Pitchers AND Pinch-Hit for Pitchers settings for ALL situations on the Strategy tabs- especially for the 7-8th innings and the 9th+ inning. The tab names are correct: towards Slow means slower to remove from game, so you may need to move the Hooking slider towards Quick in your case for later innings. Likewise, move the Pinch-Hit slider towards Frequently in the later innings.

3) Lastly, I believe the AI uses your strategy settings as a rough guide for its' own strategy decisions too. Just a guess, but it seems to roughly follow my own changes.

Hope this helps!

Ambermonk · 07-11-2008, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BoHill

1) You need to individually set the pitch count limit for all your pitchers based on their specific endurance and age under the Action> Set Game Strategy tab at bottom of the player profile page. This has a major effect on hooking the pitcher when this pitch count limit is approximately reached. A setting of 110 pitches for a 16 (out of 20) endurance pitcher is about right on average, although you may want to lower the count slightly for a very young pitcher. (...95/13, 100/14, 105/15, 110/16, 115/17...etc.)

2) Also, check that you set the Hooking Starting Pitchers AND Pinch-Hit for Pitchers settings for ALL situations on the Strategy tabs- especially for the 7-8th innings and the 9th+ inning. The tab names are correct: towards Slow means slower to remove from game, so you may need to move the Hooking slider towards Quick in your case for later innings. Likewise, move the Pinch-Hit slider towards Frequently in the later innings.

3) Lastly, I believe the AI uses your strategy settings as a rough guide for its' own strategy decisions too. Just a guess, but it seems to roughly follow my own changes.

Hope this helps!

Thanks for the info. #2 I did long ago, but I never looked at #1. I'll check it out. But even if I hard code all the pitchers in my 4-team organization - at best, a stop-gap solution, I still feel the module is broken for the default parameters and for your #3. Thanks again.

Nutlaw · 07-13-2008, 12:31 PM

And under League Setup->Strategy, what are your Pitcher Endurance and Use of Relievers settings?

Nutlaw · 07-18-2008, 06:43 PM

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07-10-2008, 08:42 AM	#21
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07-10-2008, 08:57 PM	#28
Ambermonk All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Morro Bay, CA Posts: 1,257	Here's a box score from my just completed game. Both teams were computer controlled. Castrovalva was set to quickest hook (as per my previous postings). Neither pitcher was replaced - and just look at both of the pitch counts. Holy Yogi Berra - 156 pitches!! What's going on? Attached Images __________________ *I cast this question into your soul, that I might know how deep it is* - Friedrich Nietzsche It often shows a fine command of language - to say nothing! - Bertrand Russell

07-11-2008, 08:09 PM	#29
BoHill Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 20	1) You need to individually set the pitch count limit for all your pitchers based on their specific endurance and age under the Action> Set Game Strategy tab at bottom of the player profile page. This has a major effect on hooking the pitcher when this pitch count limit is approximately reached. A setting of 110 pitches for a 16 (out of 20) endurance pitcher is about right on average, although you may want to lower the count slightly for a very young pitcher. (...95/13, 100/14, 105/15, 110/16, 115/17...etc.) 2) Also, check that you set the Hooking Starting Pitchers AND Pinch-Hit for Pitchers settings for ALL situations on the Strategy tabs- especially for the 7-8th innings and the 9th+ inning. The tab names are correct: towards Slow means slower to remove from game, so you may need to move the Hooking slider towards Quick in your case for later innings. Likewise, move the Pinch-Hit slider towards Frequently in the later innings. 3) Lastly, I believe the AI uses your strategy settings as a rough guide for its' own strategy decisions too. Just a guess, but it seems to roughly follow my own changes. Hope this helps! Last edited by BoHill; 07-11-2008 at 08:19 PM.

07-10-2008, 08:50 PM	#24
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,707	Does the other manager, here, let his pitcher (W. Spahn) bat?

07-10-2008, 08:52 PM	#26
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 16,707	BTW, Abermonk, I had to do a double-take on your stadium pic. The one scoreboard shows Madonna, the other A-Rod?

07-13-2008, 12:31 PM	#31
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	And under League Setup->Strategy, what are your Pitcher Endurance and Use of Relievers settings?

07-18-2008, 06:43 PM	#32
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	As the original poster has not responded to this thread in five days, this thread will be closed for housekeeping reasons. If you need any further assistance with this matter whatsoever, please don't hesitate to post a link to this thread in Tech Support and we will be happy to continue to help you. Thanks.