How you know you're a real baseball fan..

[myasu]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

It's the hate part that bugs me. Root for your team, hope the others lose. Why the heck does hate and hateful speech have to be a part of it?

Somebody just privately messaged me: "Lets be honest, if we weren't Yankee fans we would hate them too!"

I responded: "No I wouldn't, any more than I really hate the Red Sox. There's too much of that stuff these days, and we can see the results of it right here in the forums."

I think it has a lot to do with the attitude of the fans.

The stronger the team becomes (like the hated Red Sox), more fans there will be, and the more fans there are, chances are, more fans with wrong attitude.

I see more and more Red Sox fans in recent years who I really do not want to have anything to do with in my life. They'd keep screaming "Yankees suck!" from the start of the game 'til the end of the game, and they do not even know the game. If you watch the Red Sox games, you know what I mean. The way they boo to the players, the way they sing that stupid song late in the game, the way they look bored late in the game...

It is just like a great restaurant.
You go to this new Sushi restaurant. You love Sushi, and you know a lot about it. The place is cozy, people there are nice, food is wonderful, and you have great time there. One day, you see a nice article about the restaurant in the paper, (or on TV) and the place will be packed with the people who read the article the next time. It is a great business for the restaurant. They might hire some extra people for the kitchen as they expect tons of customers in the weekends. The quality of the food might go down, people there would not be as nice as the last time you went there, and you would not even be able to go in. You might hear people say something stupid like "Oh, I love wasabi! Please just put a lot of wasabi on the rice" or "I cannot eat fishes. Could you make sushi with white meat?" "Could I have french fries?"" You may eventually feel you do not want to go to the restaurant again. It is not the restaurant's fault, it is the people (and media?) that makes you not want to go there.

When people say "I hate the Yankees (Red Sox)", most of the time, it means, "I hate many of the Yankees (Red Sox) fans who blindly support the team just because they are strong and it is cool to support the strong team. They come up with all the excuses, but they do not even know the game!"

[CommishJoe]

^^ Great post!!!

[Goody]

I didn't even know I sweared. I said a UK swear word??? My first infraction almost 10 years caused by something Yankee related...that's fitting I guess.

Is "bleep" really bypassing the filter? I figured that rule was meant for changing out letters with similar looking characters or adding periods. Bleeping is like saying "gosh" or "darn"...isn't it?

And finally...to be put on ignore for talking about baseball and expressing passion behind various rivalries. Wow! Anyone can talk bad about my favorite team all they want, for further reference. It makes the games more fun, it makes being a fan more interesting. I'll still be a fan no matter how much people taunt Milton Bradley or our AA catchers or whatever. And I'll enjoy the joshing. Its cool to know that people actually know who's on the Mariners.

So anyways, apologies to anyone who was offended by my language or my views on the Yankees. I figured it would be a fun thread to liven the discussion around here, and it did start out that way.

[Goody]

Originally Posted by NYY #23

I guess when you've got Milton Bradley on your team it must be tough to not root for the teams ahead of you in your division....

Good one.

At least Milton knows not to trod on Braden's mound!

[Goody]

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Technically the word *** in the op is swearing too, but since the board doesn't filter it it's ok?

If the board filtered it, I'd have known it was a swear word and edited it out. Thanks for the suggestion and the infraction!

[Goody]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

I mean, what kind of juvenile are you? I don't want to know; this has been enough time spent on stupidity. You have been added to my list of blocked blockheads to prevent any future wastage of time. "Bleep the Yankees." Grow up, for godsakes.

I appreciate being called a blockhead and a juvenile for having different taste in sports teams than you. I respect Yankee fans, but not the Yankee players or baseball's rules.

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

One last thing: Moronic statements like yours result from jealousy and disappointment of not having a local team and tradition like the New York Yankees. You know what? Instead of being ashamed of our winning ways, I hope the Yankees win five more championships in a row and ram them down the throats of people like you. How's that for New York Attitude, eh, Goody my boy?

I'm a moron too, you've made abundantly clear.

Originally Posted by CommishJoe

As for the original post, truthfully, it's not even worth replying to. I've known Goody to be an irrational Yankee hater for a long time. It's the "in thing" so what do you expect? All the kiddies are doing it.

How was I the one that received an infraction here? I didn't personally attack anyone. I said a word that the message board doesn't even acknowledge as a swear word...and that the moderator didn't even catch until somebody pointed it out? If the board had censored it I'd have realized I said something bad and edited it out immediately.

I've thought about this more and I'm quite upset to have this infraction next to my name because I ranted against the Yankees.

Is there a way to appeal this?

[Prodigal Son]

Wow, tough break for Goody in this thread. Not sure what the logic is behind the moderation sometimes.

[NYY #23]

Originally Posted by Goody

Good one.

At least Milton knows not to trod on Braden's mound!

I don't know, I see nothing wrong with what he did. Baseball has two many "unwritten rules" that don't mean much.

For what its worth, we've definitely disagreed before, and I've chosen to ignore some of your comments before rather than respond, but I didn't see anything wrong with your comments, other than indirectly rooting against your team. We'll never agree, but your entitled to your opinion, and I respect that. I don't think you crossed the line, but that's just my .

[turdfurgeson]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

It's the hate part that bugs me. Root for your team, hope the others lose. Why the heck does hate and hateful speech have to be a part of it?

Not sure he used the word hate to describe the Yankees specifically, just the general feeling that every sport has a franchise that general fans "hate".

I am not a Yankees fan, but I enjoy baseball more when they are relevant. And I don't mind that they spend their money.

I would also love to see the league move another team to the area. It might take ten or more years to get traction, but I think it would be good for the sport.

[canadiancreed]

1998 Yankees is MD? Interesting.

and yes I'm confused as to how someone gets a warning for a word that is filtered?

[Tony M]

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Technically the word *** in the op is swearing too, but since the board doesn't filter it it's ok?

It does however have legal standing as a non-obscene word so is no worse than "dang!" really...

[Jestor]

Odd thing is, I don't mind the Yankees. Their fans have never annoyed me. Red Sox fans, on the other hand, are *extremely* annoying in general from my personal experience. It's made even worse when I hear "the Sox" and unless I know the context already, I have to ask and they go "the Red Sox of course! What other Sox are there?" which leads me to suggest that they go fornicate with themselves.

So yeah, Red Sox are on my hated teams list along with the Cubs (for obvious reasons) and the Twins (because I hate all Minnesota teams and they're our toughest division rivals).

[Goody]

Originally Posted by Jestor

Odd thing is, I don't mind the Yankees. Their fans have never annoyed me. Red Sox fans, on the other hand, are *extremely* annoying in general from my personal experience. It's made even worse when I hear "the Sox" and unless I know the context already, I have to ask and they go "the Red Sox of course! What other Sox are there?" which leads me to suggest that they go fornicate with themselves.

So yeah, Red Sox are on my hated teams list along with the Cubs (for obvious reasons) and the Twins (because I hate all Minnesota teams and they're our toughest division rivals).

The fans never annoyed me either...they were fun. Well, until now.

[Goody]

Kudos. Most of my friends are Yankees fans. I'm not racist!!

[Dagrims]

Originally Posted by Goody

3. Derek Jeter 22,600,000
6. Mariano Rivera 15,000,000
7. Jorge Posada 13,100,000
8. Andy Pettitte 11,750,000
10. Robinson Cano 9,000,000
12 Nick Johnson 5,500,000

Stupidity.

Half of their top-twelve paid players are homegrown. The top three on that list are playing in their 16th season together, which has never been done before in any professional sport. Is it stupidity that they have paid good money to keep them (or in one case, get him back), or stupidity that they spend a significant amount of the revenues they earn on free agents?

[jaxmagicman]

Originally Posted by Jestor

Odd thing is, I don't mind the Yankees. Their fans have never annoyed me. Red Sox fans, on the other hand, are *extremely* annoying in general from my personal experience. It's made even worse when I hear "the Sox" and unless I know the context already, I have to ask and they go "the Red Sox of course! What other Sox are there?" which leads me to suggest that they go fornicate with themselves.

So yeah, Red Sox are on my hated teams list along with the Cubs (for obvious reasons) and the Twins (because I hate all Minnesota teams and they're our toughest division rivals).

I am with you about the Red Sox fans. I used to root for them to win one World Series. I guess 'be careful what you wish for' is relevant here. I should have known they would turn into the worst sports fans of all-time.

As for Minnesota fans. I don't really hate them. I kind of pity them. They let themselves believe every year that they are better than they are. We could point out all their flaws and they will just ignore them and call us haters. Then they lose and they wonder how it went wrong. I just sniker watching it unfold.

[myasu]

Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

I am with you about the Red Sox fans. I used to root for them to win one World Series. I guess 'be careful what you wish for' is relevant here. I should have known they would turn into the worst sports fans of all-time.

As for Minnesota fans. I don't really hate them. I kind of pity them. They let themselves believe every year that they are better than they are. We could point out all their flaws and they will just ignore them and call us haters. Then they lose and they wonder how it went wrong. I just sniker watching it unfold.

The way they are playing right now, I think most of the band wagon Red Sox fans will thin out quickly, and the real fans who have been arrogant for the past several years will become more humble...

I hope I have not been too annoying to you guys.

[jaxmagicman]

Originally Posted by myasu

The way they are playing right now, I think most of the band wagon Red Sox fans will thin out quickly, and the real fans who have been arrogant for the past several years will become more humble...

I hope I have not been too annoying to you guys.

With the Red Sox playing so badly I personally can't wait for the Bill Simmons article about how Red Sox not being good is bad for baseball.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

I am with you about the Red Sox fans. I used to root for them to win one World Series. I guess 'be careful what you wish for' is relevant here. I should have known they would turn into the worst sports fans of all-time.

As for Minnesota fans. I don't really hate them. I kind of pity them. They let themselves believe every year that they are better than they are. We could point out all their flaws and they will just ignore them and call us haters. Then they lose and they wonder how it went wrong. I just sniker watching it unfold.

And what teams do you cheer for? The Braves right?

Minnesota fans are actually pretty realstic in their expectations. We dont expect to beat the Yankees but we expect to make the playoffs because we play in a horrid division. The White Sox are like moldy bread that never gets thrown out. Some of these same players have been with them what seems like forever and they never get any better. Tigers are following the same pattern. Indians are rebuilding once again and the Royals are the Royals.

The Vikings bandwagon is up for debate however. Im curious as to what all of these flaws are that you bring up and snicker about? The Vikings and Twins both lived up to preseason predictions that past few years.

Also Jestor was speaking of teams he hates and other then Red Sox fans it didnt appear he was bashing Cubs or Twins fans.

[NYY #23]

Speaking of hated teams, an interesting article talking about the most hated teams - New York Yankees: Not the Most Hated Team in Baseball - WSJ.com

Interesting to see the Indians as the most hated team...I'm not sure I buy that.