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Old 05-22-2013, 09:07 AM   #21
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 05-22-2013, 09:14 AM   #22
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Q-Dog is correct.
Austin Jackson, Max Scherzer, Ian Kennedy and Curtis Granderson would all beg to differ.
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Old 05-22-2013, 09:27 AM   #23
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I did not say there are NOT 3-way trades......but that technically there is no mechanism for them in baseballs rules....all 3-way trades have to be executed as separate transactions.....
This is pretty much exactly how an MLB scout explained it to me a couple of years ago.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 05-22-2013, 09:31 AM   #24
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This is pretty much exactly how an MLB scout explained it to me a couple of years ago.
That's fine, but they do happen(as separate transactions) and it might be cool if they happened in OOTP. In fact, those 3 way trades probably happen more often than a guy failing to score from third base on a double play ball hit to the second baseman.
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They happen de facto, but not de jure. That was Q-Dog's point.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 05-22-2013, 10:11 AM   #26
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They happen de facto, but not de jure. That was Q-Dog's point.
True that. Probably a nightmare to code anyway.
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:26 AM   #27
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That link actually lists the trade as 3 seperate 2-team deals.....when a deal involves no tangible assets going from one of the teams to the other, the deals are usually listed as "for future considerations"........
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That link actually lists the trade as 3 seperate 2-team deals.....when a deal involves no tangible assets going from one of the teams to the other, the deals are usually listed as "for future considerations"........
I guess my reading apprehension skills are poor because that's not how I read it (bachelor's degree in English be damned). And even if they are three separate deals, why are they listed as one transaction on the official MLB website? And if they are usually listed as "for future considerations," why isn't it listed that way here?
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Old 05-22-2013, 10:58 AM   #29
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What's the point of this argument?.......if you want to discount my observations, it makes no difference to me......it's merely a semantic issue anyway......

.....and in the course of acquiring your bachelor's degree in English, how many courses on the syntax of major league trade announcements did you take.....and did you pass them?......
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What's the point of this argument?.......if you want to discount my observations, it makes no difference to me......it's merely a semantic issue anyway......

.....and in the course of acquiring your bachelor's degree in English, how many courses on the syntax of major league trade announcements did you take.....and did you pass them?......
Wow, I wasn't arguing and even took the time to specifically say that I wasn't saying you guys were wrong, nor was I making any personal attacks. Enjoy the game.
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Old 05-22-2013, 11:10 AM   #31
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Ok guys, bring it down a notch. No need to get personal here.
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There is no need to ever get personal here. We discuss either a computer game or real baseball, not politics or religion.
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Old 05-22-2013, 01:06 PM   #33
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I'm not saying you're wrong, but can you please provide a link that shows what you guys are saying? Here's a link straight from MLB.com that lists the Michael Morse trade as a three-team trade (scroll down to Jan. 16).

Major League Baseball Transactions | MLB.com: Transactions

I used to think what you guys are saying was true, but how would this Michael Morse trade be listed as a series of two-team trades? No matter how you look at it, someone would either be giving up a player with no compensation, or getting a player or players without giving something up.

And if it did work, why wouldn't MLB's official website list it that way?
Morse was traded for Jaso, who was then instantly traded for Treinen and Cole. Since no one cares that Jaso was a Nat for a nano-second, why bother to report it? Reporters are lazy, they stuck with what people wanted to know, not the trivial guts of the deal.
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