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Old 04-29-2016, 06:51 AM   #21
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Old 04-29-2016, 07:03 AM   #22
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:07 AM   #23
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Microsloth can decide which OS to support and not to, you're correct. Where they go astray is...the do NOT have the right to force an OS upgrade on you. Electronic trespass and malicious destruction of intellectual property are both valid potential claims...sorry to be long winded, but I loathe Pyongyang on the Duwamish.

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Various state courts have begun to allow trespass to chattel actions when there has been no physical contact in the traditional sense but contact in the form of electronic signals. In order to prevail on a claim for trespass based on accessing a computer system, the plaintiff must establish: (1) defendant intentionally and without authorization interfered with plaintiff's possessory interest in the computer system; and (2) defendant's unauthorized use proximately resulted in damage to plaintiff. See e.g. Thrifty-Tel, Inc. v. Bezenek, 46 Cal. App. 4th 1559 (1996) (holding that an action for trespass to chattels could be maintained against defendants accused of making numerous long distance phone calls in a matter of hours because the electronic signals generated by the calls constituted sufficient tangible contact)."—Yeah, I know it's Wikipedia.
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Old 04-29-2016, 09:51 AM   #24
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I'm no fan of huge corporations and I customized my options right at installation regarding sending info and privacy etc. However, I stand to be corrected, but I'm pretty sure it was optional to upgrade to Windows 10.
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Old 04-29-2016, 10:50 AM   #25
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Old 04-29-2016, 12:18 PM   #26
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I'm no fan of huge corporations and I customized my options right at installation regarding sending info and privacy etc. However, I stand to be corrected, but I'm pretty sure it was optional to upgrade to Windows 10.
Completely optional. And foolish not to.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 04-29-2016, 12:19 PM   #27
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Microsloth can decide which OS to support and not to, you're correct. Where they go astray is...the do NOT have the right to force an OS upgrade on you. Electronic trespass and malicious destruction of intellectual property are both valid potential claims...sorry to be long winded, but I loathe Pyongyang on the Duwamish.
Unless superseded by an agreed-to EULA. Read the one for Windows lately?
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 04-29-2016, 12:23 PM   #28
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FYI, if you REALLY want to avoid Windows 10, here is how to do it:

How to block Windows 10 upgrades on your business network (and at home, too) | ZDNet
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
According to OOTP itself, OOTP MLB play (modern and historical) outnumbers OOTP fictional play three to one.

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Old 04-29-2016, 10:37 PM   #29
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Pro tip: add StartIsBack to make it even better (StartIsBack: real start menu for Windows 8 and Windows 10).
Eh. All the functionality of the old Start Menu is in the Windows 10 one. Heck, it was all there in Windows 8, it's just that the Start Menu became a full-screen monstrosity that caused confusion.

Personally, I like the Windows 10 Start Menu a lot (although I disabled Cortana). The Live Tiles are very nice for things like email and weather.
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Yes, and the people who really have a need for it - the most normal of whom are the Bitcoin and Silk Road crowd - are even creepier. There are some Really Bad Things on the Dark Web.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:23 PM   #31
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Eh. All the functionality of the old Start Menu is in the Windows 10 one. Heck, it was all there in Windows 8, it's just that the Start Menu became a full-screen monstrosity that caused confusion.

Personally, I like the Windows 10 Start Menu a lot (although I disabled Cortana). The Live Tiles are very nice for things like email and weather.
But StartIsBack is both better AND totally configurable.
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Old 04-29-2016, 11:33 PM   #32
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Windows 10 Start Menu Alternatives - the best free and paid Start Menu apps which you need

All of the choices in the article offer better Start Menu functionality than vanilla Windows 10 does.
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Well, the average OOTP user...downloads the game, manages his favorite team and that's it.
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Old 04-30-2016, 01:04 AM   #33
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I got 10 as soon as I could. I have never had a problem. My wife has never gotten 10 on any of her computers and still runs 7. No problems for her either. O love 10 personally. Now if I had $3,000 for a toy I would get the holographic thing they sent me an offer for today. It looks cool as can be. lol
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Old 04-30-2016, 10:18 PM   #34
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Scott is the new Tech Support guy for OOTP/FHM.
He's a good guy, too,

Responded to my request for help very quickly.
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Old 04-30-2016, 10:28 PM   #35
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Scott is the new Tech Support guy for OOTP/FHM.
Can you get someone to change Scott's title then? Since Scott's is a brand new account with only the 1 post I was just about to PM Eugene to ask him if Scott asked to see his serial number or give over control of his computer. It'd be good for people to know that if Scott offers to help them that they can probably trust him since he works for OOTP.

EDIT: Welcome aboard, Scott. Sorry I found you suspicious. Hopefully you understand.

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Old 05-01-2016, 12:06 PM   #36
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while you had win7, you had to be more selective of your updates that get installed on your computer... still shady that you have to be aware of such a thing, don't get me wrong.

but, had you read through them each time, you would have avoided the one(s) that start the upgrade process and all the annoying reminders to do so. doing some google searches should give you the "KB######" so you can uninstall it, if you have accidentally put it on your computer.

only auto-update the recommended ones... even those i'd look through the non-security labeled updates... if it doesn't apply to your computer, don't download and install it - espeically the "Optional" updates... the optional ones are mostly junk and if they are important.. they are important to NOT download as opposed to being important to download.

Also, get in a habit of not downloading updates right when they are pushed to your computer... give it a week and read comments on internet... mostly just look for "KB#### broke my computer!" type stuff.

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