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Shaw has been hot and cold all season, I hope he can work through whatever it is that he is going through. It brings the need to make a move to add a relief pitcher to the back of the bullpen much higher on the list now.
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That move to let Bauer start the 7th certainly ended up biting them in the rear. He wasn't exactly mowing through the Twins in the innings prior to that either.
The problem really stems from having no one to really rely on in the 7th and 8th innings. Manship and Shaw could just have easily given up those runs (obviously Manship did once those guys were on). THey really need to pull the trigger on some guys. I'd prefer the Miller route, but if we have to go after second tier Brewer guys - that's still an upgrade. Tough loss last night, glad I didn't watch. |
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He had been quite good in his last 8 or 10 outings. I guess he was bound to have another bad one. Still not sure he should be an 8th inning guy right now.
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Frankenstein never scared me. Marsupials do....cause they're fast! Gibson swings, and a fly ball to deep right field! This is gonna be a home run! Unbelievable! A home run for Gibson! And the Dodgers have won the game, 5 to 4; I don't believe what I just saw! I don't believe what I just saw! |
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Frankenstein never scared me. Marsupials do....cause they're fast! Gibson swings, and a fly ball to deep right field! This is gonna be a home run! Unbelievable! A home run for Gibson! And the Dodgers have won the game, 5 to 4; I don't believe what I just saw! I don't believe what I just saw! |
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You're right. he has been pitching better lately, but I guess I am spoiled from the past 3 years here, where his ERA was near or below 3.00 and he looked unhittable at times. If they can get a Miller, Jeffress or Doolittle in a trade, then Shaw goes to the 7th and the new guy is the 8th inning man with Allen in the 9th.
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Again though, I'm willing to admit this could be a terrible idea too. Easy for me to armchair GM with no consequences. I also think the trade where we got Ubaldo was a good move too, so plenty of grains of salt to take this with. EDIT: oops, forgot the link....http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/did-t...drew-pomeranz/ Last edited by TribeFanInNC; 07-20-2016 at 09:49 AM. |
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That being said, I know they have to make a move to improve the bullpen and now it looks like go get another outfielder since Brantley is getting another MRI on his shoulder and they are saying he could be shut down the rest of the year. So I would be ok with them dealing one of those top guys because it looks like they finally have restocked the farm with talent so if the guy the dealt away becomes a good player, there is more of a chance that there is someone else that can come up and be just as good. I don't want to see another Brian Giles for Ricardo Rincon trade happen. And I think the Ubaldo trade worked out well in the end for the Indians...sure Pomeranz has pitched well this year, but it took him a few years and two organizations to maybe figured it out. |
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Cleveland takes Game 3 and Royals series with authority with 11 runs in the first 5 innings. Go Tribe! Off day, then a trip to Baltimore for the weekend. Disappointed I can't make the trip there this year (Camden is the closest AL park to me).
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Buster Olney is reporting that Indians are in discussions with Brewers for Lucroy trade:
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Carrasco looks unhittable lately and has easily become what people consider an "Ace"....maybe the Cliff Lee trade wasn't so bad after all!!
I had the game on at work (love FoxSports Go app!) and yesterday's game reminded me of the team we had in 1995, they looked like they had the Royals pitchers scared to throw strikes because they knew it was going to be hit a ton. The next two series will be interesting as they play Baltimore and Washington, and I think Strasburg is pitching one of the games here in Cleveland. With the emergence of Naquin, I feel better if they had to deal one of the OF prospects to land that bullpen arm, or maybe Lucroy....but I heard that Milwaukee has a lot of OF prospects so they want either pitchers or corner infielders. Would hate to see Bradley go because I think he is going to be a big time power hitter if he gets up to the majors. But honestly, I am not really buying that they make a move to get Lucroy, because they still think Gomes is the guy behind the plate and with him under control til 2020, I just don't see them trading for a catcher of Lucroy's caliber. I think it was more Milwaukee leaking that so they can get more in a trade with someone else. If they go get a catcher, I see it being someone like Kurt Suzuki and the "big" trade they make will be for bullpen help. |
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I have him as well. What a nice little surprise this guy is turning out to be. I'm in a AL only league, so finds like this are so very valuable. I actually picked him up early in the season and got ticked when the Indians didn't have playing time for him. Dropped him when he was sent down, but since I also had Brantley, I picked him back up again when Brantley went back on the DL. I've since traded Brantley....man I didn't want to do that, but by dumb luck, I'm in the thick of the race in my league and just couldn't wait out the injury any longer. Do you think the Indians will have at bats for Tyler when Brantley returns? |
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A pretty good read in today's Plain Dealer talking about how the Indians formed the starting rotation:
10 years in the making: How the Cleveland Indians' vaunted starting rotation came together | cleveland.com |
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The season series against the Orioles makes it look as though Baltimore has the best starter ERA in the AL and Cleveland has one of the worst instead of the other way around...
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I can rationalize that the Os are not a good matchup for Tomlin. I can't rationalize why we couldn't hit their pitching. Ugh. I'm a little afraid the back half of our lineup is remembering that they are all journeyman players.
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Report: Indians have best deal on table for Chapman | Yardbarker.com I also read some snippet somewhere where Cody Allen has done the "I'll do whatever the club needs" line. Maybe it's true. |
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It sounds like the Cubs may be the top contender to get Chapman, which I am ok with because I hate giving up prospects for a rental, especially when that rental player could go back to the original team.
Yankees, Cubs Working On Trade Involving Aroldis Chapman, Gleyber Torres - MLB Trade Rumors I see the Indians getting someone like Will Smith and maybe the (re)signing of Joe Thatcher gives them a lefty on lefty guy that can be better than the circus of lefties they have run out there all season. On another note, they promoted both Frazier and Zimmer to Triple-A Columbus: Prospect Notes: D'Backs, Indians, Chang, Perez - MLB Trade Rumors |
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