That's it, i'm done! - Page 2

RchW · 01-01-2020, 01:14 PM

nm

swoboda · 01-02-2020, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RchW

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Is that "never mind" or. Namaste ?

Rizon · 01-02-2020, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by swoboda

Is that "never mind" or. Namaste ?

nm man nm

"no message, man, no message" - Twins34

RchW · 01-02-2020, 06:59 PM

It's my Roberto Duran moment.

Enough

Cod · 01-04-2020, 06:11 PM

Why are people so upset over something they have nothing invested in? OOTP (and Jim) owe you nothing as far as a new game is concerned. You aren't a Kickstarter backer, Early Access adopter, investor, etc. so why the hatred?

moore4807 · 01-04-2020, 07:17 PM

Well Said Cod!

Wanting an update isn't bad... DEMANDING that they "owe" you one is where the burn is coming from...

Nature Boy · 01-05-2020, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cod

Why are people so upset over something they have nothing invested in? OOTP (and Jim) owe you nothing as far as a new game is concerned. You aren't a Kickstarter backer, Early Access adopter, investor, etc. so why the hatred?

I think it is because many of us have invested years in FOF. We are sick and tired of FOF8. We don't know which way to go at this point. We could start implementing house rules to improve it, or sit and wait for FOF9. House rules are disruptive to a league, but we sure can't play 8 forever. This has been our hobby for years, we are invested in our leagues.

I think to some it would be just good manners to give a small update. Even, "sorry guys not sure. Might be 4Q of 2020 but can't promise anything". Jim has gone above and beyond for us over the years, but that doesn't mean we don't get to feel frustrated with this silence policy.

drewst18 · 01-05-2020, 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Cod

Why are people so upset over something they have nothing invested in? OOTP (and Jim) owe you nothing as far as a new game is concerned. You aren't a Kickstarter backer, Early Access adopter, investor, etc. so why the hatred?

I would say that upset isn't the right word there are a vocal handful sure but the rest of us is just Excitement, nothing else. It's ridiculous I know but the FOF engine isn't perfect but it's the best we have for football but playing that game feels like I stepped in a time machine to 1996. OOTP has an incredible interface and the idea of FOF moving to that is the best news we've ever had as text based football fans.

While owed nothing you are right, the company came out almost 2 years ago stating they were hoping for a fall release, that seemingly got pushed back to a winter release... Since then Jim has released an update for FOF8 which was extremely disheartening.

Ultimately it's just like a perfect match and I think more than anything people are just worried it will never come out and we'll be stuck with FOF.

Nature Boy · 01-05-2020, 07:42 AM

Speak for yourself Drew. Couldn't care less about OOTP's involvement. This is all about Jim IMO, and whether he can improve the mechanics. If he can't the game is dead in the water and nothing else will matter.

nbryant · 01-05-2020, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by drewst18

Ultimately it's just like a perfect match and I think more than anything people are just worried it will never come out and we'll be stuck with FOF.

This wouldn't be a bad thing. Jim would continue improving his product. Yes, we lose the GUI, but outside of that FOF isn't bad. Each update brought depth.

Until the OOTP team states that they are not developing this anymore then it is being worked on.

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01-02-2020, 06:59 PM	#24
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	It's my Roberto Duran moment. Enough __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit

01-05-2020, 07:42 AM	#29
Nature Boy Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Sep 2018 Posts: 26	Speak for yourself Drew. Couldn't care less about OOTP's involvement. This is all about Jim IMO, and whether he can improve the mechanics. If he can't the game is dead in the water and nothing else will matter. Last edited by Nature Boy; 01-05-2020 at 07:47 AM.

01-04-2020, 06:11 PM	#25
Cod All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 1,075	Why are people so upset over something they have nothing invested in? OOTP (and Jim) owe you nothing as far as a new game is concerned. You aren't a Kickstarter backer, Early Access adopter, investor, etc. so why the hatred?

01-04-2020, 07:17 PM	#26
moore4807 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: Punta Gorda FL. Posts: 1,389	Well Said Cod! Wanting an update isn't bad... DEMANDING that they "owe" you one is where the burn is coming from...