Really hoping there is something by Sept 2020

[Clavette]

Glad to hear something about this.

Thanks

[Rosco Peabody]

Originally Posted by Jim Gindin

I took some time to update FOF8. Primarily added 2019 files, which is work I'd have to do for FOF9 anyway, since we want at least a few seasons with the initial release. After the Super Bowl (tomorrow), I'm back full-time on coding for FOF9.

Jim, you have to understand, even something vague like this once a month is all a lot of us are asking for.
Even taking literally five minutes once a month just to say, "Everything's still going on as expected", would be enough for 90% of us to still have 100% faith in this project

[Reggie]

The good news for me is during this time I've given FOF8 another shot. I was frustrated with it the first time I tried playing it. I took the time to read the manual an understand how the game works.. now I enjoy playing it a lot and am even more excited by this partnership.

[Jim Gindin]

Originally Posted by Rosco Peabody

Jim, you have to understand, even something vague like this once a month is all a lot of us are asking for.
Even taking literally five minutes once a month just to say, "Everything's still going on as expected", would be enough for 90% of us to still have 100% faith in this project

I think it's a good idea as long as it comes with the understanding that the real PR work - talking about the game's details, showing screen shots, the back-and-forth with the community as the game matures - is something that's best left to the professionals. I'm not quiet about this because it's my choice to be quiet. It's because there's a team in place to handle PR and anything I do independently makes their job harder. I know I have a history of releasing products within hours of announcing them. That's OK when you're solo and you have no PR team or budget. I've been reliant on the "evergreen" business model with no scheduled yearly new releases from the beginning. Any kind of hype is a bad thing with that model. That's not OK when you're part of a team that can do those things properly. I'll check in from time to time. Nothing formal. Nothing detailed. But since we're delayed and we did announce that we had hoped to be out a long time ago, I think it's a good idea as long as it doesn't antagonize people.

[Mickeyb37]

FOF has always been a great football game. OOTP make two of my favourite sports games. My frustration about not getting updates just comes from the fact I can't wait to see what the combination of Jim's brilliant work over the years and OOTP's brilliant games and UI is going to produce.

I appreciate your message Jim and would love a a "check in from time to time". Thanks for the many hours of great gaming that FOF has provided me with so far

[nickwatic]

I think I'm going to take the FOF dive

[Rosco Peabody]

Originally Posted by Jim Gindin

I think it's a good idea as long as it comes with the understanding that the real PR work - talking about the game's details, showing screen shots, the back-and-forth with the community as the game matures - is something that's best left to the professionals. I'm not quiet about this because it's my choice to be quiet. It's because there's a team in place to handle PR and anything I do independently makes their job harder. I know I have a history of releasing products within hours of announcing them. That's OK when you're solo and you have no PR team or budget. I've been reliant on the "evergreen" business model with no scheduled yearly new releases from the beginning. Any kind of hype is a bad thing with that model. That's not OK when you're part of a team that can do those things properly. I'll check in from time to time. Nothing formal. Nothing detailed. But since we're delayed and we did announce that we had hoped to be out a long time ago, I think it's a good idea as long as it doesn't antagonize people.

Thanks so much, Jim!

[Reggie]

Originally Posted by nickwatic

I think I'm going to take the FOF dive

My unasked for advice.. read the literature that comes with it that explains the concepts and how the game works. It took me quite a bit of playing but of the 5 football games I have on my computer FOF8 went from my least favorite to the only one I play.

[bigd51]

Originally Posted by Reggie

My unasked for advice.. read the literature that comes with it that explains the concepts and how the game works. It took me quite a bit of playing but of the 5 football games I have on my computer FOF8 went from my least favorite to the only one I play.

Wholeheartedly agree.

I haven't played FOF at all, but when I first played OOTP Baseball a couple of years ago, I gave up on it quickly because the amount of depth was just so overwhelming. Plus, I'm not that much of a baseball fan outside of when the Braves are good.

But after a few months, I decided to go back to it. So I watched every tutorial video OOTP put out and really dug deep into learning everything about the game first before trying anything. The tutorials were fantastic and afterward, I jumped into it and quickly got hooked.

So yeah... definitely take the time to read the tutorials/guides/whatever you can before jumping into the game.

[beatle]

I have always said "Expectations are the root of Disappointments".

[Painmantle]

Originally Posted by Reggie

It took me quite a bit of playing but of the 5 football games I have on my computer FOF8 went from my least favorite to the only one I play.

There are actually 5 football games worth having on your computer?