Home | Webstore
Latest News: OOTP 26 Available - FHM 12 Available - OOTP Go! Available

Out of the Park Baseball 26 Buy Now!

  

Go Back   OOTP Developments Forums > Prior Versions of Our Games > Out of the Park Baseball 16 > OOTP 16 - General Discussions

OOTP 16 - General Discussions Discuss the new 2015 version of Out of the Park Baseball here!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 03-27-2015, 04:12 PM   #381
Doc_Brown
All Star Starter
 
Doc_Brown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,326
Sometime after OD. I'm not sure of the exact date, but I think the plan is to get them out as quickly as possible when the OD rosters are known.
Doc_Brown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 04:16 PM   #382
Erik W.
Global Moderator
 
Erik W.'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc
Posts: 4,615
Someone added an extra zero to Logan Ondrusek (Tokyo Yakult Swallows). His salary in the game is $12M instead of $1.2M. Does nasty things to the club's finances.

The game also has him on a two year contract signed prior to 2014 season, but in reality it's a one year deal signed before this season. But since that has no impact on game play, that part isn't a big deal.
__________________
Free agent baseball fan. Let's go (insert team name here)!
Erik W. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 04:36 PM   #383
Yick
Minors (Double A)
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 103
Kyle Drabek just got claimed off of waiver by the White Sox.
Yick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 06:32 PM   #384
TBird
Minors (Rookie Ball)
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 25
On the free agent list Ernesto Molinet, Cuban first baseman, is listed as a second baseman but has ratings only for first. I understand he played some second base and outfield early on, but has played primarily first base the past 4 years or so.
TBird is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 06:35 PM   #385
Tom the Fish
All Star Reserve
 
Tom the Fish's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Jingu Stadium
Posts: 510
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik W. View Post
Someone added an extra zero to Logan Ondrusek (Tokyo Yakult Swallows). His salary in the game is $12M instead of $1.2M. Does nasty things to the club's finances.

The game also has him on a two year contract signed prior to 2014 season, but in reality it's a one year deal signed before this season. But since that has no impact on game play, that part isn't a big deal.
Oh that explains a lot.
__________________
"Any talk of rebelliousness has to begin with one's
profound appreciation and understanding of tradition."
- Lu Shoukun
Tom the Fish is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 07:41 PM   #386
Lukas Berger
OOTP Developments
 
Lukas Berger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France
Posts: 21,362
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik W. View Post
Someone added an extra zero to Logan Ondrusek (Tokyo Yakult Swallows). His salary in the game is $12M instead of $1.2M. Does nasty things to the club's finances.

The game also has him on a two year contract signed prior to 2014 season, but in reality it's a one year deal signed before this season. But since that has no impact on game play, that part isn't a big deal.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom the Fish View Post
Oh that explains a lot.
My bad.

Fixed now.
Lukas Berger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 07:58 PM   #387
frangipard
OOTP Roster Team
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 750
Okay, so maybe I'm completely wrong here, but the ratings for some of the international leagues look pretty completely nerfed. Basically, the pitchers are fine, but the batters in the Japanese and Korean leagues (and maybe some others) are wildly overrated.

Let me quantify this. There are 240 major-league starters (8*30, we'll ignore the DH), and 360 major-league position-player jobs. When you sort all MLB players by current OVR (scouting off, 20-80 scale, all compared to MLB), there are 242 players rated 44 or higher, and 370 rated 37 or higher. Thus, if all MLB talent was perfectly evenly distributed by team and position a rating of 44 makes you a starter, and 37 gets you on the active roster. Let's bump that up a bit just to be conservative, and say that 50 means you can probably be a major-league starter, and 40 means you likely belong on an active roster.

By that metric, there are

23 hitters in Japan who are pretty clearly major-league starters (>50)
65 hitters in Japan who would make a major-league active roster. (>37)

Again -- that's just the hitters. Does that sound at all accurate? (Pitchers look fine; about 4-6 guys who could make MLB rotations right now and a handful more in the bullpen).

Just looking at the two of the three top-rated players :

Seiichi Uchikawa has a lifetime .816 OPS in Japan; according to the editor, his ratings would produce a .838 OPS in the majors. I don't know a damn thing about Seiichi Uchikawa, but I think it's pretty unlikely that at age 32 he'd do better in the majors than he ever has in Japan.

Jose Lopez had a ML career OPS of .688; in two years in Japan, he's hit .795. The ratings project him for this year -- in the majors -- at .836!

It's not universal: Wladimir Balentin looks fine, as do Lastings Milledge and Tad Iguchi and a few other well-known names. But the problem goes on down the line with the less-well-known players:

Luis Cruz
ML: .590
***:.687
Ratings projected ML: .733

Keiji Obuki
***: .671
Ratings projected ML: .689

etc. etc.

Note that it's not just the hitting ratings, it's the defensive ones, including several specific positions. The roster lists 14 players in the majors rated 65+ at 2B … and 18 with the same rating in Japan! The numbers aren't quite as bad at other positions, but there still seems to be inflation at LF, RF and 3B as well.

And the picture looks just as bad in some of the other leagues; going by the ratings, there are 12 batters in the Korean league who could be starters in the Majors right now, and another 40 who could probably make an MLB active roster. That sounds completely wrong from everything I've read about the KBO.

The numbers for Taiwan are 1 and 7, Cuba 8 and 23, Mexico 0 and 12. Those don't sound out of whack, depending on what your opinion is of the level of play in those leagues.

But then again, when I sim out the Korean and Japanese leagues, they don't look as hitting-dominated as the ratings show they should be ... i.e. it's not like the Japanese league is averaging six runs a game.

What's going on here?




I was just getting ready to start a global fictional league using the real rosters -- basically throwing every player in the world into one big fantasy draft -- but at this point I'm holding off.

Last edited by frangipard; 03-27-2015 at 08:53 PM.
frangipard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 09:40 PM   #388
Lukas Berger
OOTP Developments
 
Lukas Berger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France
Posts: 21,362
Quote:
Originally Posted by frangipard View Post
What's going on here?
Well, let me take a look at this.

At a quick glance, I think you're on to something.

As for being hitting dominated, that's controlled mostly by the modifiers. So even if the hitters are overrated, the leagues won't be too out of wack so long as the modifiers are ok.

The more i look though, the more it looks like you're right, at least as far as Japan goes. Not sure exactly what happened, if it was a db error or my error, but it'll get fixed.

I'll be knocking down a lot of those Japanese hitters in the next day or so. This should look much better next build.

Really good eye. Thanks much!

Last edited by Lukas Berger; 03-27-2015 at 09:53 PM.
Lukas Berger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 10:06 PM   #389
Lukas Berger
OOTP Developments
 
Lukas Berger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France
Posts: 21,362
I can't track down what happened, but it seems that something went weird in the db for the *** at some point. Because even guys like Zealous Wheeler are rated at 3*, and we didn't have him anywhere near that before. But at the last import, he gained a ton of power and all his ratings went up, for no apparent reason.

That seems to be the case for quite a few other *** guys as well.

Again, really glad you caught this frangipard. Can't thank you enough

Last edited by Lukas Berger; 03-27-2015 at 10:08 PM.
Lukas Berger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 10:11 PM   #390
frangipard
OOTP Roster Team
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 750
Quote:
Originally Posted by lukasberger View Post
I'll be knocking down a lot of those Japanese hitters in the next day or so. This should look much better next build.
Cool.

Do you have any idea when that will be? I saw Markus saying they were basically all taking a break for a bit ... does that mean no update/patch till the OD one?

Quote:
Again, really glad you caught this frangipard. Can't thank you enough
Just trying to do my part ...

Last edited by frangipard; 03-27-2015 at 10:14 PM.
frangipard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 10:25 PM   #391
Lukas Berger
OOTP Developments
 
Lukas Berger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France
Posts: 21,362
Quote:
Originally Posted by frangipard View Post
Cool.

Do you have any idea when that will be? I saw Markus saying they were basically all taking a break for a bit ... does that mean no update/patch till the OD one?
Not entirely sure.

If you want, I can send you the rosters once I get them updated. It's the least I can do in return for your catching this.
Lukas Berger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 10:40 PM   #392
Habsfan18
Hall Of Famer
 
Habsfan18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Canada
Posts: 2,247
I'll hold off until the opening day roster update to start my main league game. Hopefully by then the *** issues have been fixed as well.
Habsfan18 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 10:45 PM   #393
frangipard
OOTP Roster Team
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 750
Quote:
Originally Posted by lukasberger View Post
If you want, I can send you the rosters once I get them updated. It's the least I can do in return for your catching this.
frangipard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-27-2015, 11:16 PM   #394
Lukas Berger
OOTP Developments
 
Lukas Berger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France
Posts: 21,362
Quote:
Originally Posted by Habsfan18 View Post
I'll hold off until the opening day roster update to start my main league game. Hopefully by then the *** issues have been fixed as well.
They're pretty much fixed now. 90% at least, just need to do some tweaking and testing.
Lukas Berger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2015, 12:46 AM   #395
frangipard
OOTP Roster Team
 
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 750
Quote:
Originally Posted by lukasberger View Post
They're pretty much fixed now. 90% at least, just need to do some tweaking and testing.
Did you check Korea, too?
frangipard is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2015, 12:50 AM   #396
Lukas Berger
OOTP Developments
 
Lukas Berger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France
Posts: 21,362
Quote:
Originally Posted by frangipard View Post
Did you check Korea, too?
Yep, working on them.
Lukas Berger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2015, 02:37 AM   #397
npollock
Bat Boy
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Posts: 4
Houston SS Jonathan Villar has been playing CF this spring. In-game his OF ratings are all around 4/8 with 0 experience.
npollock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2015, 10:10 AM   #398
Tribe1450
Minors (Double A)
 
Tribe1450's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Sandusky, Ohio
Posts: 152
Game time schedules are not correct for 2015 MLB schedule. I only noticed because the Indians schedule has every game as a night game (all 162) and all starting at 7:30. Indians have a new start time of :10 past the hour this year and several 6:10 evening start times in April/May
Tribe1450 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2015, 11:38 AM   #399
Lukas Berger
OOTP Developments
 
Lukas Berger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France
Posts: 21,362
Quote:
Originally Posted by frangipard View Post
Did you check Korea, too?
Ok, think I'm done with Korea.

They weren't that bad, didn't have the big issues Japan did, but I did do a bit of tweaking.
Lukas Berger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2015, 11:48 AM   #400
Doc_Brown
All Star Starter
 
Doc_Brown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,326
Quote:
Originally Posted by lukasberger View Post
Ok, think I'm done with Korea.

They weren't that bad, didn't have the big issues Japan did, but I did do a bit of tweaking.
Good work.
Doc_Brown is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:43 AM.

 

Major League and Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of Major League Baseball. Visit MLB.com and MiLB.com.

Officially Licensed Product – MLB Players, Inc.

Out of the Park Baseball is a registered trademark of Out of the Park Developments GmbH & Co. KG

Google Play is a trademark of Google Inc.

Apple, iPhone, iPod touch and iPad are trademarks of Apple Inc., registered in the U.S. and other countries.

COPYRIGHT © 2023 OUT OF THE PARK DEVELOPMENTS. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.

 

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.10
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © 2024 Out of the Park Developments