The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History - Page 22

chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 05:58 PM

Nineteen Innings Complete Game Loss

One of the most amazing pitching starts in First Division history occurred on the 17th of August of this season, as young William Peace of the Burton United side tossed a complete game of nineteen innings, only to take the loss of one run to two against the visiting Red Devils of Manchester United.

Peace gave up nine hits, walked two and hit two others by pitch for a total of only thirteen base runners the entire match, and he might have won after eighteen except that his catcher William Pinsmail was thrown out at home plate trying to score from second on a single to right centre field for the third out of that innings.

Unfortunately the rest of Peace's luck ran out in the top of the nineteenth, for while the sun had already set and darkness was quickly setting in, Wilfred Saunders led off with a single, moved to second on a unassisted groundout to first, stole third on the next pitch and scored on a sacrifice flyout by Charles Lovell. The Burtons went out on three quiet groundouts, punctuated by an infield single, to hang the bitter loss on Peace.

A count of pitches yielded the number two hundred and thirty two, yet Peace got right back on the horse five days later and scored a complete game victory of three runs to two over the Glossop Hillmen, this time only nine innings in length.

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chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 08:26 PM

Baseball League 1904
First Division Results

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chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 08:27 PM

Baseball League 1904
First Division Champions

Newcastle United

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chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 08:28 PM

Baseball League 1904
First Division Final Table

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chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 08:29 PM

Baseball League 1904
First Division Team Batting and Pitching

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chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 08:31 PM

Baseball League 1904
First Division Award Winners

Batsman of the Year: Bradley Betts

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Baseballer of the Year and Pitcher of the Year: Reuben Pope

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Newcomer of the Year: Charles Barrett

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chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 08:33 PM

Baseball League 1904
First Division League Leaders

Batting Leaders

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Pitching Leaders

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chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 08:34 PM

Baseball League 1904
First Division Top Game Performances

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chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 08:36 PM

Baseball League 1904
First Division Top 20 Batters and Pitchers

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chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 08:36 PM

Baseball League 1904
First Division Top Systems

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chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 08:53 PM

Baseball League 1904
First Division Financial Report

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chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 08:56 PM

Walker Back to America

The Edward Walker experiment at Middlesbrough has ended on an inauspicious note. Walker has decided to forego another crack at English League ball and go back to America to try his luck in the American majors again

Walker was, in a word, terrible. With only seven wins against seventeen defeats and a porous 4.31 ERA, he did not come close to fulfilling the expectations that his background and his talents would have suggested. Walker is also said to have been surprised and disappointed by the wage disparity between the American majors and the League, although it has never been any secret that baseball players make more money, sometimes much more, in America than they do in England.

It is rumoured that Walker had some sharp words for Middlesbrough chairman, Sir William Bull, on his way out, and Sir William was none too pleased at the brazen insolence Walker is said to have displayed.

We will keep an interested eye on the further exploits of Edward Walker in the United States and report back as events warrant.

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dward1 · 04-13-2014, 09:05 PM

are you running leagues in the US in the same universe or is that just background you added in?

chucksabr · 04-13-2014, 10:05 PM

Meaning, am I running a US league on OOTP that I'm pulling guys like Marty Hogan and Edward Walker out of and rotating guys like Alfred Shaw into? No, I'm not. These were real English-born baseball players who really did play in the actual American major leagues in the early days of the game.

chucksabr · 04-14-2014, 10:28 PM

Baseball League 1904
Second Division Results

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chucksabr · 04-14-2014, 10:29 PM

Baseball League 1904
Second Division Promoted Club

Aston Villa Villans

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chucksabr · 04-14-2014, 10:31 PM

Baseball League 1904
Second Division Promoted Club

West Ham United Hammers

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chucksabr · 04-14-2014, 10:41 PM

Baseball League 1904
Second Division Final Table

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Six non-league club challenged the three clubs needing to seek re-election to the Second Division in the vote for League membership. Voting (number of votes):

Code:

25      Grimsby Town         Re-elected to the League
21	Rotherham County     Elected to the League
20	Hull City            Elected to the League
18	Leeds City           Not elected to the League
10      Bradford City        Not elected to the League
10      Wolverhampton        Not re-elected to the League
4       South Shields        Not elected to the League
3       Chelsea              Not elected to the League
1       Everton              Not re-elected to the League

chucksabr · 04-14-2014, 10:42 PM

Baseball League 1904
Second Division Team Batting and Pitching

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chucksabr · 04-14-2014, 10:44 PM

Baseball League 1904
Second Division Award Winners

Batsman of the Year and Newcomer of the Year: Ambrose Kirk

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Pitcher of the Year and Baseballer of the Year: Louis Newton

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04-13-2014, 05:58 PM	#421
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Nineteen Innings Complete Game Loss One of the most amazing pitching starts in First Division history occurred on the 17th of August of this season, as young William Peace of the Burton United side tossed a complete game of nineteen innings, only to take the loss of one run to two against the visiting Red Devils of Manchester United. Peace gave up nine hits, walked two and hit two others by pitch for a total of only thirteen base runners the entire match, and he might have won after eighteen except that his catcher William Pinsmail was thrown out at home plate trying to score from second on a single to right centre field for the third out of that innings. Unfortunately the rest of Peace's luck ran out in the top of the nineteenth, for while the sun had already set and darkness was quickly setting in, Wilfred Saunders led off with a single, moved to second on a unassisted groundout to first, stole third on the next pitch and scored on a sacrifice flyout by Charles Lovell. The Burtons went out on three quiet groundouts, punctuated by an infield single, to hang the bitter loss on Peace. A count of pitches yielded the number two hundred and thirty two, yet Peace got right back on the horse five days later and scored a complete game victory of three runs to two over the Glossop Hillmen, this time only nine innings in length. __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League Last edited by chucksabr; 05-04-2014 at 01:50 PM.

04-13-2014, 08:26 PM	#422
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 First Division Results __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-13-2014, 08:27 PM	#423
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 First Division Champions Newcastle United __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-13-2014, 08:28 PM	#424
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 First Division Final Table __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-13-2014, 08:29 PM	#425
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 First Division Team Batting and Pitching __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-13-2014, 08:31 PM	#426
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 First Division Award Winners Batsman of the Year: Bradley Betts Baseballer of the Year and Pitcher of the Year: Reuben Pope Newcomer of the Year: Charles Barrett __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League Last edited by chucksabr; 05-10-2014 at 08:35 AM.

04-13-2014, 08:33 PM	#427
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 First Division League Leaders Batting Leaders Pitching Leaders __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-13-2014, 08:34 PM	#428
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 First Division Top Game Performances __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-13-2014, 08:36 PM	#429
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 First Division Top 20 Batters and Pitchers __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-13-2014, 08:36 PM	#430
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 First Division Top Systems __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-13-2014, 08:53 PM	#431
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 First Division Financial Report __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League Last edited by chucksabr; 04-14-2014 at 10:59 PM.

04-13-2014, 08:56 PM	#432
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Walker Back to America The Edward Walker experiment at Middlesbrough has ended on an inauspicious note. Walker has decided to forego another crack at English League ball and go back to America to try his luck in the American majors again Walker was, in a word, terrible. With only seven wins against seventeen defeats and a porous 4.31 ERA, he did not come close to fulfilling the expectations that his background and his talents would have suggested. Walker is also said to have been surprised and disappointed by the wage disparity between the American majors and the League, although it has never been any secret that baseball players make more money, sometimes much more, in America than they do in England. It is rumoured that Walker had some sharp words for Middlesbrough chairman, Sir William Bull, on his way out, and Sir William was none too pleased at the brazen insolence Walker is said to have displayed. We will keep an interested eye on the further exploits of Edward Walker in the United States and report back as events warrant. __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-13-2014, 09:05 PM	#433
dward1 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 934	are you running leagues in the US in the same universe or is that just background you added in?

04-13-2014, 10:05 PM	#434
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Meaning, am I running a US league on OOTP that I'm pulling guys like Marty Hogan and Edward Walker out of and rotating guys like Alfred Shaw into? No, I'm not. These were real English-born baseball players who really did play in the actual American major leagues in the early days of the game. __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-14-2014, 10:28 PM	#435
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 Second Division Results __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-14-2014, 10:29 PM	#436
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 Second Division Promoted Club Aston Villa Villans __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-14-2014, 10:31 PM	#437
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 Second Division Promoted Club West Ham United Hammers __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-14-2014, 10:41 PM	#438
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 Second Division Final Table Six non-league club challenged the three clubs needing to seek re-election to the Second Division in the vote for League membership. Voting (number of votes): Code: 25 Grimsby Town Re-elected to the League 21 Rotherham County Elected to the League 20 Hull City Elected to the League 18 Leeds City Not elected to the League 10 Bradford City Not elected to the League 10 Wolverhampton Not re-elected to the League 4 South Shields Not elected to the League 3 Chelsea Not elected to the League 1 Everton Not re-elected to the League __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-14-2014, 10:42 PM	#439
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 Second Division Team Batting and Pitching __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

04-14-2014, 10:44 PM	#440
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Baseball League 1904 Second Division Award Winners Batsman of the Year and Newcomer of the Year: Ambrose Kirk Pitcher of the Year and Baseballer of the Year: Louis Newton __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League Last edited by chucksabr; 05-10-2014 at 08:35 AM.