Absolute Blockbuster of a Trade in my 42 year old Historical Random Debut - Page 27

italyprof · 02-24-2018, 02:05 PM

I will let you know when i have the chance. Traveling for work now. No ootp to play so obsessing in the forums instead.

italyprof · 02-24-2018, 02:07 PM

I asked you a question about a half hour ago on another thread about random debut player quality . Don't know if you have had a chance to see it. Thanks.

actionjackson · 02-24-2018, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by italyprof

I asked you a question about a half hour ago on another thread about random debut player quality . Don't know if you have had a chance to see it. Thanks.

Asked and (just recently) answered sir.

JaBurns · 02-24-2018, 07:38 PM

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...Or Hanlan's Point Stadium (site of Babe Ruth's first professional homerun), or Diamond Park, or Maple Leaf Stadium. None of them had that ersatz grass crap, and yet we've never not had it while we've had a team in the big leagues. Excellent little illustrated history here.

Great article I am now thinking I may have to change my choice to either Hanlon’s Point Stadium or Maple Leafs Stadium probably easier to find dimensions.

actionjackson · 02-24-2018, 10:10 PM

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Great article I am now thinking I may have to change my choice to either Hanlon’s Point Stadium or Maple Leafs Stadium probably easier to find dimensions.

Hanlan's Point Stadium with the roller coaster beyond the RF fence is pretty cool. I can't imagine they operated that ride while games were in progress though. Could get a little hazardous!

italyprof · 02-26-2018, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

Asked and (just recently) answered sir.

Wow! The random debut works when youtake that simple step of swtting the draft to 44 rounds. Turns out that 2 of my problems playing RD are solved: first there ARE enough reasonably regular or fulk timish players to ill rosters with as some of thosr that werw getting dumped into frreeagency were actually good ones and second, since I was unawarw that my opponent were then signing rhem now my team doesn't suck.still challenging asmy 1901 Cleveland Blues are at .500 after 40 games. I set historical year to 1984 -i think i owe David Watt for that idea as well. 154 game schedule. My thanks Action Jackson.

David Watts · 02-26-2018, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by italyprof

Wow! The random debut works when youtake that simple step of swtting the draft to 44 rounds. Turns out that 2 of my problems playing RD are solved: first there ARE enough reasonably regular or fulk timish players to ill rosters with as some of thosr that werw getting dumped into frreeagency were actually good ones and second, since I was unawarw that my opponent were then signing rhem now my team doesn't suck.still challenging asmy 1901 Cleveland Blues are at .500 after 40 games. I set historical year to 1984 -i think i owe David Watt for that idea as well. 154 game schedule. My thanks Action Jackson.

Oh man, the 1984 thing is all Actionjackson. I do use his way of playing often, but please don't give me the credit.

David Watts · 02-26-2018, 10:51 AM

Oh and the talent distribution in a random debut league should win Markus some type of programmer of the century award. Simply amazing. I was so worried way back when the feature was added that teams/leagues would end up loaded with super studs. Not the case at all. I think year in and year out the draft supplies just the right mix of talent.

David Watts · 02-26-2018, 02:15 PM

Am I loving 1969....yes I am, yes I am. It's so great to have the offense back

What a crazy year for Bill Melton(25). Dude busts out of the gate on fire, hitting 30 home runs by the end of June. He's banging in the high .340's and is driving in runs at double the pace of everyone else in the league 65. By the end of July he has 32 home runs. There are 2 days left in August and he's sitting at 35. He's managed to keep his average though as he's hitting .341 on August 30. He has roughly 110 RBI(at work, so going on memory). Ken Griffey Jr. actually managed to catch and pass him in the RBI department.

actionjackson · 02-26-2018, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by David Watts

Am I loving 1969....yes I am, yes I am. It's so great to have the offense back

What a crazy year for Bill Melton(25). Dude busts out of the gate on fire, hitting 30 home runs by the end of June. He's banging in the high .340's and is driving in runs at double the pace of everyone else in the league 65. By the end of July he has 32 home runs. There are 2 days left in August and he's sitting at 35. He's managed to keep his average though as he's hitting .341 on August 30. He has roughly 110 RBI(at work, so going on memory). Ken Griffey Jr. actually managed to catch and pass him in the RBI department.

...And one of the coolest nicknames to boot: "Beltin'" Billy Melton.

David Watts · 02-26-2018, 02:56 PM

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...And one of the coolest nicknames to boot: "Beltin'" Billy Melton.

Was really thinking I might have a new single season home run record, but he hit the wall.

David Watts · 02-27-2018, 09:43 AM

With 17 games left to play in the 69 season, Fort Worth looks like they're set to earn a repeat trip to the Southern League championship series.. Coming off a 3 game sweep of the Corpus Christi Beach Bums the Mustangs have a 5 game cushion between themselves and Corpus and a 10 game lead over 3rd place Mobile. Fort Worth is lead by a combo of Ken Griffey Jr and Pete Rose on offense and a trio of pitchers, Frank Viola, Mike McCormick and Vern Law. Wil Myers is also having his best season so far for the Mustangs. Up to this season Myers has been rather inconsistent, looking like a star at times and a dud at others. Corpus has Bill Melton and Harry Heilmann hitting 3rd and 4th in the their lineup. Both are hitting above .340. Melton has 38 bombs and 110+ RBI. Only Ken Griffey Jr. has driven in more runs. On the hill, Jose Guzman is having a career year for the Bums. Jose leads all Southern League pitchers with 21 victories. Mobile has the trio of Kirby Puckett, Bernie Williams and a revitalized Lou Gehrig leading their offense. Van Mungo is once again having a nice year on the mound. Birmingham and Alexandria are 4th and 5th in the standings.

italyprof · 02-27-2018, 12:29 PM

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Oh man, the 1984 thing is all Actionjackson. I do use his way of playing often, but please don't give me the credit.

My apologies to both of you in that case ! I actually decided to go with 1986 instead (how original of me ! .-) .

So we have played out the 1901-02 and 03 seasons. My Cleveland Blues have made it to second place in 1903, but face some key positions that have aging players (Chambliss at first for example, now 38).

Our star is Bobby Murcer who has been hitting in the area of .320-.340 each season with between 30 and 45 homers (led the league, tied with Yaz for 1902). We sucked the first two seasons though.

Best hitter so far in the league has been Turkey Mike Donley, who hit the current record of .411 in 1902. Pedro Martinez and Clayton Kershaw have ranked among the Cy Young award winners. Have to rename that thing: what if Cy Young shows up in the draft? Awkward...

Anyway by not expanding automatically, the league stays (so far at least, hope this works) with the original 1901 teams - Milwaukee Brewers, Chicago Orphans, Boston Beaneaters, etc.

More news to come soon.

actionjackson · 02-27-2018, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by italyprof

My apologies to both of you in that case ! I actually decided to go with 1986 instead (how original of me ! .-) .

So we have played out the 1901-02 and 03 seasons. My Cleveland Blues have made it to second place in 1903, but face some key positions that have aging players (Chambliss at first for example, now 38).

Our star is Bobby Murcer who has been hitting in the area of .320-.340 each season with between 30 and 45 homers (led the league, tied with Yaz for 1902). We sucked the first two seasons though.

Best hitter so far in the league has been Turkey Mike Donley, who hit the current record of .411 in 1902. Pedro Martinez and Clayton Kershaw have ranked among the Cy Young award winners. Have to rename that thing: what if Cy Young shows up in the draft? Awkward...

Anyway by not expanding automatically, the league stays (so far at least, hope this works) with the original 1901 teams - Milwaukee Brewers, Chicago Orphans, Boston Beaneaters, etc.

More news to come soon.

It's not that awkward. In my league, Babe Ruth never managed to win the Babe Ruth Award (MVP), as he entered the league as a 34-year old in the Inaugural Draft of 1901. Ozzie Smith won 8 Ozzie Smith Awards (Gold Glove), and Ted Williams has now won 4 Ted Williams Awards (Silver Slugger). Mariano Rivera won 1 Mariano Rivera Award (Reliever of the Year), and finished runner-up a couple of times in a career that was nowhere near RL Mo. Have yet to see Cy Young or Jackie Robinson (ROY) in my league. I just pretend that there was another player in history with the same name who had the award named after him, or something like that.

JaBurns · 02-27-2018, 02:48 PM

Looking at the screen shots for 19 looks like I have to get moving with my “experimental” RD league started in 18. I really, really hope that TigerFan’s tutorials will work in 19 because I am experimenting with variations on his great work. I am only allowing my MLB to expand according to history and then adding unaffiliated minors if and when the free agent pool grows too large, using an option where Major League clubs can purchase players. Already messed that up a few times, hope I can weed out my other mistakes before 19 March. (Probability of that is as close to zero as possible!). Must remember to create a template right after my initial league setup. By using the entire player database I am hoping that there will be at least 150 years before I runout of real players possibly more if can limit the reserve roster size to 10 or 12. The quest for my perfect game continues......

David Watts · 02-28-2018, 08:20 PM

How's this for a first round

Beaumont Crush George Brett
Jackson Browns Todd Zeile
Texarkana Grasshoppers Mariano Rivera
Baton Rouge Artillery Wally Pipp
Shreveport Captains Billy Wagner
Biloxi Cardinals Cliff Floyd
Birmingham Slammers Floyd Bannister
Lake Charles Pirates Joe Dobson
Alexandria Aces Fritz Peterson
Mobile Hustlers Tommy Holmes
Corpus Christi Danny Cater
Fort Worth Mustangs Max Lanier

Great thing is Rivera is coming into the league during the real life Rich Gossage years.....hey kids get off my lawn will get a true test. Of course, as the OOTP Gods would have it Gossage entered my league in 1952. He is 37 years old and unemployed. Loving the hometown Captains getting Billy Wagner.

David Watts · 02-28-2018, 08:32 PM

New Southern League Hall of Famer

Felix Hernandez (85.7%) 197-128, 5 saves, 3.28, 1644 k's, 1.25 WHIP, 125 ERA+, 75.2 WAR

4 time League Champion as a member of the Birmingham Slammers, 1948,49,51 and 52. Wildcard Series MVP 1949.

Felix pitched 14 seasons in the Southern League, 12 with the Birmingham Slammers. This was his 5th year on the ballot.

Yasiel Puig received 64.7%. This is was his first year on ballot. Maybe not next year, but I have to think soon.

Players dropped
John E Briggs
Art Wilson
Andrew Miller.

David Watts · 02-28-2018, 08:43 PM

Most notable retirement

Corey Kluber 38 years old. 171-112, 3.17. 1818 k's, 1.17WHIP, 122ERA+ 54.8 WAR

1 Cy Young Award 1963. 3 time league champ. 1963 Alexandria, 1966 Corpus Christi and 1967 Texarkana.

David Watts · 03-01-2018, 09:34 AM

Fort Worth has now won the last two Southern League titles, making them the 3rd team to win two straight. The preseason predictions have them finishing 1st again in 1970. Will be interesting to see if they can be the first team ever to win 3 straight. Birmingham won 4 titles in 5 years early in Southern League history.

The preseason predictions have Lake Charles finishing 2nd, with 90 victories. Could this be the year they find their way into the postseason? Matt Lato's is once again predicted to be among the best pitchers in the league. What a nice surprise he's turned out to be.

David Watts · 03-03-2018, 09:28 AM

Milestone watch:

Hank Aaron is now only 5 home runs from 500 and 184 hits shy of 3000.

Van Mungo is 2 wins away from winning his 250th game.

02-27-2018, 02:48 PM	#535
JaBurns All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: Kelowna, British Columbia Posts: 1,302	Looking at the screen shots for 19 looks like I have to get moving with my “experimental” RD league started in 18. I really, really hope that TigerFan’s tutorials will work in 19 because I am experimenting with variations on his great work. I am only allowing my MLB to expand according to history and then adding unaffiliated minors if and when the free agent pool grows too large, using an option where Major League clubs can purchase players. Already messed that up a few times, hope I can weed out my other mistakes before 19 March. (Probability of that is as close to zero as possible!). Must remember to create a template right after my initial league setup. By using the entire player database I am hoping that there will be at least 150 years before I runout of real players possibly more if can limit the reserve roster size to 10 or 12. The quest for my perfect game continues...... Last edited by JaBurns; 02-27-2018 at 02:53 PM. Reason: Clarity

02-24-2018, 02:05 PM	#521
italyprof All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,032	I will let you know when i have the chance. Traveling for work now. No ootp to play so obsessing in the forums instead.

02-24-2018, 02:07 PM	#522
italyprof All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,032	I asked you a question about a half hour ago on another thread about random debut player quality . Don't know if you have had a chance to see it. Thanks.

02-26-2018, 10:51 AM	#528
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,124 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Oh and the talent distribution in a random debut league should win Markus some type of programmer of the century award. Simply amazing. I was so worried way back when the feature was added that teams/leagues would end up loaded with super studs. Not the case at all. I think year in and year out the draft supplies just the right mix of talent.

02-26-2018, 02:15 PM	#529
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,124 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Am I loving 1969....yes I am, yes I am. It's so great to have the offense back What a crazy year for Bill Melton(25). Dude busts out of the gate on fire, hitting 30 home runs by the end of June. He's banging in the high .340's and is driving in runs at double the pace of everyone else in the league 65. By the end of July he has 32 home runs. There are 2 days left in August and he's sitting at 35. He's managed to keep his average though as he's hitting .341 on August 30. He has roughly 110 RBI(at work, so going on memory). Ken Griffey Jr. actually managed to catch and pass him in the RBI department.

02-27-2018, 09:43 AM	#532
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,124 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	With 17 games left to play in the 69 season, Fort Worth looks like they're set to earn a repeat trip to the Southern League championship series.. Coming off a 3 game sweep of the Corpus Christi Beach Bums the Mustangs have a 5 game cushion between themselves and Corpus and a 10 game lead over 3rd place Mobile. Fort Worth is lead by a combo of Ken Griffey Jr and Pete Rose on offense and a trio of pitchers, Frank Viola, Mike McCormick and Vern Law. Wil Myers is also having his best season so far for the Mustangs. Up to this season Myers has been rather inconsistent, looking like a star at times and a dud at others. Corpus has Bill Melton and Harry Heilmann hitting 3rd and 4th in the their lineup. Both are hitting above .340. Melton has 38 bombs and 110+ RBI. Only Ken Griffey Jr. has driven in more runs. On the hill, Jose Guzman is having a career year for the Bums. Jose leads all Southern League pitchers with 21 victories. Mobile has the trio of Kirby Puckett, Bernie Williams and a revitalized Lou Gehrig leading their offense. Van Mungo is once again having a nice year on the mound. Birmingham and Alexandria are 4th and 5th in the standings.

02-28-2018, 08:20 PM	#536
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,124 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	How's this for a first round Beaumont Crush George Brett Jackson Browns Todd Zeile Texarkana Grasshoppers Mariano Rivera Baton Rouge Artillery Wally Pipp Shreveport Captains Billy Wagner Biloxi Cardinals Cliff Floyd Birmingham Slammers Floyd Bannister Lake Charles Pirates Joe Dobson Alexandria Aces Fritz Peterson Mobile Hustlers Tommy Holmes Corpus Christi Danny Cater Fort Worth Mustangs Max Lanier Great thing is Rivera is coming into the league during the real life Rich Gossage years.....hey kids get off my lawn will get a true test. Of course, as the OOTP Gods would have it Gossage entered my league in 1952. He is 37 years old and unemployed. Loving the hometown Captains getting Billy Wagner.

02-28-2018, 08:32 PM	#537
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,124 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	New Southern League Hall of Famer Felix Hernandez (85.7%) 197-128, 5 saves, 3.28, 1644 k's, 1.25 WHIP, 125 ERA+, 75.2 WAR 4 time League Champion as a member of the Birmingham Slammers, 1948,49,51 and 52. Wildcard Series MVP 1949. Felix pitched 14 seasons in the Southern League, 12 with the Birmingham Slammers. This was his 5th year on the ballot. Yasiel Puig received 64.7%. This is was his first year on ballot. Maybe not next year, but I have to think soon. Players dropped John E Briggs Art Wilson Andrew Miller.

02-28-2018, 08:43 PM	#538
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,124 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Most notable retirement Corey Kluber 38 years old. 171-112, 3.17. 1818 k's, 1.17WHIP, 122ERA+ 54.8 WAR 1 Cy Young Award 1963. 3 time league champ. 1963 Alexandria, 1966 Corpus Christi and 1967 Texarkana.

03-01-2018, 09:34 AM	#539
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,124 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Fort Worth has now won the last two Southern League titles, making them the 3rd team to win two straight. The preseason predictions have them finishing 1st again in 1970. Will be interesting to see if they can be the first team ever to win 3 straight. Birmingham won 4 titles in 5 years early in Southern League history. The preseason predictions have Lake Charles finishing 2nd, with 90 victories. Could this be the year they find their way into the postseason? Matt Lato's is once again predicted to be among the best pitchers in the league. What a nice surprise he's turned out to be.

03-03-2018, 09:28 AM	#540
David Watts Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Looking for a place called Leehofooks Posts: 10,124 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Milestone watch: Hank Aaron is now only 5 home runs from 500 and 184 hits shy of 3000. Van Mungo is 2 wins away from winning his 250th game.