BZ 272: Crash On Pitcher Injury Still Exists!!!!! - Page 3

AESP_pres · 06-21-2008, 11:42 PM

If the technical peoples are interested, since it seems that the problem is with the league and not the system and the crash happen everytime, I can send my .dat files to your ftp. Look like my league is a good one to find the problem (good news for you

, not so good for me

)

Just let me know if you are interested

endgame post while I was writing. I'll try to send it to you with the name AESP_pres.zip

endgame · 06-21-2008, 11:44 PM

Yeah. Follow that link I just posted and do that, will you, AESP? It may help.

Thanks!

AESP_pres · 06-22-2008, 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by endgame

Yeah. Follow that link I just posted and do that, will you, AESP? It may help.

Thanks!

File upload (AESP_pres.zip)

Hope that it will help you to find the little problem

Nutlaw · 06-22-2008, 01:46 PM

Okay. I have re-opened BZ 272 with this information. Thanks for your diligence.

PhillieFever · 06-22-2008, 11:09 PM

You have to find the reason for this,its really starting to tick me off.It just happened to me again in the 9th inning with 2 outs.I can't believe that after a month everyone is still mystified as to what is causing this.

battists · 06-23-2008, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillieFever

You have to find the reason for this,its really starting to tick me off.It just happened to me again in the 9th inning with 2 outs.I can't believe that after a month everyone is still mystified as to what is causing this.

Trust me, it's been more than a month, and it's absolutely not something we are ignoring. It's a bug that's been eluding us for over a year now, and as the other posts in this thread attest, there's something very peculiar going on, because it had completely disappeared during beta. We were sure we had it squashed.

It won't be fixed in tomorrow's patch, I know that, but I sure hope we can find it for the next patch.

AESP_pres · 06-23-2008, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillieFever

You have to find the reason for this,its really starting to tick me off.It just happened to me again in the 9th inning with 2 outs.I can't believe that after a month everyone is still mystified as to what is causing this.

You have to give them the time to find it, anything can be responsible for the crash. For the other game version that I own (2007) 3 patches was necessary to correct it. I'm not worried at all, the technical team will find the reason of this bug now that they have a league that always crash (mine). In the meantime just do like me and save everyday.

OldFatGuy · 06-23-2008, 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhillieFever

You have to find the reason for this,its really starting to tick me off.It just happened to me again in the 9th inning with 2 outs.I can't believe that after a month everyone is still mystified as to what is causing this.

It's going to keep happening in that league everytime. Once this bug is present in a league, it stays present, and even imports. When my 2007 league had this problem, it imported right into OOTP8 with it. No other OOTP8 league ever had it, but that one, it happened everytime the pitcher was injured. It even happened once when an outfielder was injured. I finally quit that league and started a new one.

But, you're right. We need to figure out what is causing the bug to get into the league in the first place.

Comedian2004 · 06-23-2008, 09:08 PM

I had one today, and one thing I think may be the key....

Earlier in the game, I did a double swap with the 3B and pitcher, swapping their positions.

If anyone has had this crash; it happens when you drag the new pitcher to the pitchers spot on the right, did you have a double swap earlier in the game?????

Please answer if you know FOR SURE, as this could be the problem. I HOPE!!

SittingDuck · 06-23-2008, 09:59 PM

Or from another angle to suppliment this with more info, does this ever occur in a league that is currently using the DH?

AESP_pres · 06-24-2008, 12:03 AM

Sorry not in my case, the crash happen everytime a pitcher is injured (SP or RP). It has happen as soon as the end of the third inning, in fact it has happen many times after the third inning (maybe that could help the tester).

I think of starting a new league while the technical team try to resolve the bug, since in doesn't seem to happen with every one of them.

bbastyr · 06-24-2008, 12:41 AM

I had it crash without doing a double swap.

Comedian2004 · 06-24-2008, 12:49 AM

I have to ask, how are you getting the pitcher injured so often? You say it has happened many times. I have played many many games and the pitcher just being injured while pitching or batting just does not happen often.

How many games have you played the game out to generate those kind of numbers. What are your injury settings? I am just curious how you can get the injuries to happen, as I have made glass players and having a hard time just getting an injury.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AESP_pres

Sorry not in my case, the crash happen everytime a pitcher is injured (SP or RP). It has happen as soon as the end of the third inning, in fact it has happen many times after the third inning (maybe that could help the tester).

I think of starting a new league while the technical team try to resolve the bug, since in doesn't seem to happen with every one of them.

Comedian2004 · 06-24-2008, 12:53 AM

I mean a double swap in prior innings in the game. When it happened to me, that was the situation. We need to find anything similar between us, as I am positive it is related to something that happened earlier, or a specific situation, it could be something as bizaare as only with 2 outs and runners on certain bases when it is the 2nd pitcher in the game, etc. We need to try to find something that has the same situation.

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Originally Posted by bbastyr

I had it crash without doing a double swap.

theasfl · 06-24-2008, 03:24 AM

Those of you who've seen it happen in this version (aside from Comedian/Larry) are you seeing this in new leagues or imported leagues? Larry, I still have an old build on my laptop (though you probably have one lying around as well), I'll try to get around to messing with things to try to recreate the situation (or a similar one) you described.

AESP_pres · 06-24-2008, 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comedian2004

How many games have you played the game out to generate those kind of numbers. What are your injury settings? I am just curious how you can get the injuries to happen, as I have made glass players and having a hard time just getting an injury.

Many time is a general term for too often, but with my current league season after 97 games it have happen 7 or 8 times with my team (I don't play with the other one).

Injury is set as average in the setup, nothing extreme or unusual here.

AESP_pres · 06-24-2008, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theasfl

Those of you who've seen it happen in this version (aside from Comedian/Larry) are you seeing this in new leagues or imported leagues?

New league. My league was transfered to the technical support ftp, so I suppose that they will use it to try to find the reason.

Comedian2004 · 06-24-2008, 11:08 AM

OK, we have ruled it out being from being imported. There are indications that it is not because of a move earlier in the game, like a double swap, but my money is still on that.

Markus is on a well deserved vacation, but we will be on him when he gets back like a greedy agent on a hot rookie.

See if you can notice something in your game that is consistent between the games that it happens in. It could be something really weird and I am sure that is what it is.

Is it always a starting pitcher, is it always a RP or a Closer or is it always when the pitcher is on the home team, away team, or with runners on base, etc.

AESP_pres · 06-24-2008, 12:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Comedian2004

See if you can notice something in your game that is consistent between the games that it happens in. It could be something really weird and I am sure that is what it is.

The only thing that seems constant from my memory is the fact that the crash happen after the third inning. I can say for sure if my team is at home everytime. When it will happen again I'll keep more details.

At the third inning I give all the control to the AI, no crash since I do this but no pitcher injury to check if it works.

PhillieFever · 06-24-2008, 07:05 PM

Sorry if my post was a little testy yesterday,I had a 6 for 6 day by Danny Cater erased by the crash so it got me a little heated.Hey Old Fat Guy,I plan on taking your advice and starting a brand new league once I finish out this season.Now my only problem is deciding what era to start in

06-21-2008, 11:42 PM	#41
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 4,046	If the technical peoples are interested, since it seems that the problem is with the league and not the system and the crash happen everytime, I can send my .dat files to your ftp. Look like my league is a good one to find the problem (good news for you , not so good for me ) Just let me know if you are interested endgame post while I was writing. I'll try to send it to you with the name AESP_pres.zip Last edited by AESP_pres; 06-21-2008 at 11:47 PM. Reason: add the last line

06-21-2008, 11:44 PM	#42
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 16,842	Yeah. Follow that link I just posted and do that, will you, AESP? It may help. Thanks! __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

06-23-2008, 09:08 PM	#49
Comedian2004 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In a house in Saint Cloud, Florida. Posts: 7,085	CTD Error when pitcher is injured, see this thread I had one today, and one thing I think may be the key.... Earlier in the game, I did a double swap with the 3B and pitcher, swapping their positions. If anyone has had this crash; it happens when you drag the new pitcher to the pitchers spot on the right, did you have a double swap earlier in the game????? Please answer if you know FOR SURE, as this could be the problem. I HOPE!! __________________ Like BLUES? Visit www.smokestacklightnin.com, you will LOVE it! New show every Monday!! New Blues HOF![/COLOR][/FONT]

06-24-2008, 12:03 AM	#51
AESP_pres Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Province of Quebec Posts: 4,046	Sorry not in my case, the crash happen everytime a pitcher is injured (SP or RP). It has happen as soon as the end of the third inning, in fact it has happen many times after the third inning (maybe that could help the tester). I think of starting a new league while the technical team try to resolve the bug, since in doesn't seem to happen with every one of them. Last edited by AESP_pres; 06-24-2008 at 12:19 AM.

06-24-2008, 03:24 AM	#55
theasfl Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Coral Springs, FL or Orlando, FL (UCF) Posts: 7,988	Those of you who've seen it happen in this version (aside from Comedian/Larry) are you seeing this in new leagues or imported leagues? Larry, I still have an old build on my laptop (though you probably have one lying around as well), I'll try to get around to messing with things to try to recreate the situation (or a similar one) you described. __________________ All-Sports Fantasy League The ASFL 22 different games, 9 sports. Please check out the website (www.theasfl.com/asfl2/). The league is free- if you're interested please fill out the signup form and/or email the commissioner. Miami Talons (ABL): 2004, 2005 & 2008 Champs

06-22-2008, 01:46 PM	#44
Nutlaw Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 9,538	Okay. I have re-opened BZ 272 with this information. Thanks for your diligence.

06-22-2008, 11:09 PM	#45
PhillieFever Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Elk Twp. NJ Posts: 6,763	You have to find the reason for this,its really starting to tick me off.It just happened to me again in the 9th inning with 2 outs.I can't believe that after a month everyone is still mystified as to what is causing this.

06-23-2008, 09:59 PM	#50
SittingDuck All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Richmond, VA Posts: 1,834	Or from another angle to suppliment this with more info, does this ever occur in a league that is currently using the DH?

06-24-2008, 12:41 AM	#52
bbastyr Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 22	I had it crash without doing a double swap.

06-24-2008, 11:08 AM	#58
Comedian2004 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In a house in Saint Cloud, Florida. Posts: 7,085	OK, we have ruled it out being from being imported. There are indications that it is not because of a move earlier in the game, like a double swap, but my money is still on that. Markus is on a well deserved vacation, but we will be on him when he gets back like a greedy agent on a hot rookie. See if you can notice something in your game that is consistent between the games that it happens in. It could be something really weird and I am sure that is what it is. Is it always a starting pitcher, is it always a RP or a Closer or is it always when the pitcher is on the home team, away team, or with runners on base, etc. __________________ Like BLUES? Visit www.smokestacklightnin.com, you will LOVE it! New show every Monday!! New Blues HOF![/COLOR][/FONT]

06-24-2008, 07:05 PM	#60
PhillieFever Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Elk Twp. NJ Posts: 6,763	Sorry if my post was a little testy yesterday,I had a 6 for 6 day by Danny Cater erased by the crash so it got me a little heated.Hey Old Fat Guy,I plan on taking your advice and starting a brand new league once I finish out this season.Now my only problem is deciding what era to start in