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yankeesrule · 04-28-2010, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by NYY #23

Speaking of hated teams, an interesting article talking about the most hated teams - New York Yankees: Not the Most Hated Team in Baseball - WSJ.com

Interesting to see the Indians as the most hated team...I'm not sure I buy that.

bull, no way are the indians the most hated team. it has to be either the yanks or redsox from what i can tell reading online and listening to random stuff. i would love to know what system they used to come to that conclusion.

the yankees, cowboys, and duke mbb are three teams that pretty much any sports fan has an opinion on of either hating or loving, not that many that are just neutral on them.

EMSoccerCoach · 04-28-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

One last thing: Moronic statements like yours result from jealousy and disappointment of not having a local team and tradition like the New York Yankees. You know what? Instead of being ashamed of our winning ways, I hope the Yankees win five more championships in a row and ram them down the throats of people like you. How's that for New York Attitude, eh, Goody my boy?

Oooooo, you showed him. Vicarious power trips...now THAT's maturity. Comical.

jbergey22 · 04-29-2010, 12:20 AM

That article doesnt add up. Why the hell would the Indians be the most hated team in baseball? They are in the same division as the Twins that I cheer for and I dont even hate them.

NYY #23 · 04-29-2010, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by jbergey22

That article doesnt add up. Why the hell would the Indians be the most hated team in baseball? They are in the same division as the Twins that I cheer for and I dont even hate them.

I'm pretty sure they need a new algorithm. I can't say I recall anybody saying they hate the Indians, or the Reds/Astros/Nationals. Indifference I might buy.

Erik W. · 04-29-2010, 01:20 AM

My guess is "Wow, the Indians/Nationals/Reds really suck" is being counted as a negative opinion, thus the flawed index.

If they had narrowed it down to "Man, I really hate the . . ." the Yankees would be #2 or so.

Left-handed Badger · 04-29-2010, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

Neither is cancer, but we aren't going to learn to love it.

Really, I like rooting against the Yankees. But I don't do it because they spend money. I wish more teams spent money. I wish my team would spend money. I actually like rooting against them because they are always on TV. It gives me a team to root for (the team playing against them) as well.

But I do root for the Yankees against Boston. I used to root for Boston, but I didn't realize that once they won a championship they would turn into Yankee Fans V2.0 the bad ones.

Yeah, that turned me off on the Red Sox too. Being a Blue Jay/Royal fan, the Blue Jay part at least makes it a requirement to dislike (though, it really isnt personal with me, jut a division rival thing) both teams to begin with. (I dont care much for the Orioles either, but I feel "hating" them this year, just aint right)

Left-handed Badger · 04-29-2010, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

It's the hate part that bugs me. Root for your team, hope the others lose. Why the heck does hate and hateful speech have to be a part of it?

Somebody just privately messaged me: "Lets be honest, if we weren't Yankee fans we would hate them too!"

I responded: "No I wouldn't, any more than I really hate the Red Sox. There's too much of that stuff these days, and we can see the results of it right here in the forums."

Well, to be technical I am probably the only baseball fan who doesnt hate nor love them.

(I mean like I said I dont particularly care for them, but that is as much for being a Blue Jay and in the same divison as anything else, it isnt exactly personal)

Note: Course my Red Sox dislike might be a little more closer to hate for the fans acting like...well bad

after 2004. I might be a little more forgiving when they win about 15 more. The only team I can really say I hate are the Giants, and that is more residual Bonds anger, it gets weaker by the year.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 04-29-2010, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Erik W.

My guess is "Wow, the Indians/Nationals/Reds really suck" is being counted as a negative opinion, thus the flawed index.

If they had narrowed it down to "Man, I really hate the . . ." the Yankees would be #2 or so.

Yeah, that's one of the worst articles ever. The real story is that the results for baseball teams proves that the index doesn't work in all situations.

Skipaway · 04-29-2010, 04:04 AM

I think the result for the index is pretty simple. Indians/Nationals/Reds are the meh teams very likely to get a 0 score on a -5~5 scale. That's why they have low scores.

Yankees might be hated by a lot of people, but they are also loved by a lot of people. Yankees probably got a lot of positive scores from people who don't care about baseball at all. It just averaged to be higher than those meh teams.

Goody · 01-21-2012, 12:36 AM

I just re-read this post and was surprised at some of the names that were still here in 2010, but are no longer seen.

Goody · 01-31-2021, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by myasu

I think it has a lot to do with the attitude of the fans.

The stronger the team becomes (like the hated Red Sox), more fans there will be, and the more fans there are, chances are, more fans with wrong attitude.

I see more and more Red Sox fans in recent years who I really do not want to have anything to do with in my life. They'd keep screaming "Yankees suck!" from the start of the game 'til the end of the game, and they do not even know the game. If you watch the Red Sox games, you know what I mean. The way they boo to the players, the way they sing that stupid song late in the game, the way they look bored late in the game...

It is just like a great restaurant.
You go to this new Sushi restaurant. You love Sushi, and you know a lot about it. The place is cozy, people there are nice, food is wonderful, and you have great time there. One day, you see a nice article about the restaurant in the paper, (or on TV) and the place will be packed with the people who read the article the next time. It is a great business for the restaurant. They might hire some extra people for the kitchen as they expect tons of customers in the weekends. The quality of the food might go down, people there would not be as nice as the last time you went there, and you would not even be able to go in. You might hear people say something stupid like "Oh, I love wasabi! Please just put a lot of wasabi on the rice" or "I cannot eat fishes. Could you make sushi with white meat?" "Could I have french fries?"" You may eventually feel you do not want to go to the restaurant again. It is not the restaurant's fault, it is the people (and media?) that makes you not want to go there.

When people say "I hate the Yankees (Red Sox)", most of the time, it means, "I hate many of the Yankees (Red Sox) fans who blindly support the team just because they are strong and it is cool to support the strong team. They come up with all the excuses, but they do not even know the game!"

I love this writing and thought put into it.

Déjà Bru · 01-31-2021, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Goody

I love this writing and thought put into it.

It took you over 10 years to "digest" it and form an opinion?!?

Heh, I like the time travel aspect of seeing various forum members who have disappeared into the mists of time.

Interesting that myasu was replying to me but in my former persona on this forum.

mytreds · 02-02-2021, 07:52 PM

Needed a warlock to necro this thread

Goody · 11-13-2021, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

It took you over 10 years to "digest" it and form an opinion?!?

Heh, I like the time travel aspect of seeing various forum members who have disappeared into the mists of time.

Interesting that myasu was replying to me but in my former persona on this forum.

Yeah, I have been living life. Its sometimes good and sometimes bad. But I have been here 20 years cause I love baseball and my friends here. I guess you owned me on that.

andyhdz · 11-28-2021, 09:27 PM

The article is from 2010. Almost as old as the last time the Yankees were in a World Series.

04-29-2010, 01:20 AM	#45
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	My guess is "Wow, the Indians/Nationals/Reds really suck" is being counted as a negative opinion, thus the flawed index. If they had narrowed it down to "Man, I really hate the . . ." the Yankees would be #2 or so. __________________ Free agent baseball fan. Let's go (insert team name here)!

04-29-2010, 04:04 AM	#49
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	I think the result for the index is pretty simple. Indians/Nationals/Reds are the meh teams very likely to get a 0 score on a -5~5 scale. That's why they have low scores. Yankees might be hated by a lot of people, but they are also loved by a lot of people. Yankees probably got a lot of positive scores from people who don't care about baseball at all. It just averaged to be higher than those meh teams. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

02-02-2021, 07:52 PM	#53
mytreds All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 1,182	Needed a warlock to necro this thread __________________ “Baseball isn’t statistics; it’s Joe DiMaggio rounding second.” “Once, centuries ago, it was the beloved national pastime of the Americas, Wesley. Abandoned by a society that prized fast food and faster games. Lost to impatience.” “ The term ‘WAR’ should be replaced by ‘WAG’. WAR isn’t an actual measurement; it’s just a wild-ass guess” -Bill James RIP National League 1876-2022 Floreat semper vel invita morte. I make custom ballparks.

11-28-2021, 09:27 PM	#55
andyhdz All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fresno, CA by way of Texas Posts: 1,754	The article is from 2010. Almost as old as the last time the Yankees were in a World Series. __________________ *************************************** It's your game. Play it how you like it. ***************************************

04-29-2010, 12:20 AM	#43
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,481	That article doesnt add up. Why the hell would the Indians be the most hated team in baseball? They are in the same division as the Twins that I cheer for and I dont even hate them.

01-21-2012, 12:36 AM	#50
Goody Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 3,530	I just re-read this post and was surprised at some of the names that were still here in 2010, but are no longer seen.