This game sucks. - Page 3

Matt Arnold · 06-16-2015, 01:03 PM

Things can chance within a season as well. I just had a team who was cruising with about a .650 winning percentage at the All-Star break, comfortably a few games in first, and ended up missing the playoffs by about 5 games, being around 11 games behind the division leader. I've also had teams do the opposite, be around .500 at mid-season and end up going like 55-25 down the stretch to easily cruise to a division win.

ThatSeventiesGuy · 06-16-2015, 03:04 PM

I had a team in a fictional league coming off two straight championships. Started 42-43, fired the manager. Finished first with over 90 wins, won a third straight championship. So, try firing Matheny if all else fails, although I'd wait until the end of a season.

Assos · 06-16-2015, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThatSeventiesGuy

I had a team in a fictional league coming off two straight championships. Started 42-43, fired the manager. Finished first with over 90 wins, won a third straight championship. So, try firing Matheny if all else fails, although I'd wait until the end of a season.

A fictional Jeffery Loria you are! I tend to fire either my pitching or batting coach before I remove my brains.

r0nster · 06-16-2015, 03:49 PM

I am always looking to improve my coaching staff starting with the major leagues then work my way down. I will fire the not so good coaches if I can get a better one to my liking. Cant get too attached to players or coaches.

fuzzy_patters · 06-16-2015, 04:04 PM

I feel your pain. Here are my winning percentages for my first five years with the White Sox. I'm in September of year five.

2015 .395
2016 .414
2017 .456
2018 .518
2019 .589
2020 .471

My winning percentage for 2020 was sub .400 until a hot August. I have mostly the same players as last year, and most of them are still twenty-somethings. I went from first in the league in defensive efficiency to second from last. What happened? To heck if I know. I'm about ready to set fire to my laptop, but I'm going to keep playing.

Edit: I did lose an all-star, Jose Abreu, to free agency. Is his absence why my team suddenly sucks? That's doubtful. My consistent improvement came from consistently improving defensively. Abreu was my DH. That's OOTP. Sometimes, the unexplainable happens.

ThatSeventiesGuy · 06-16-2015, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Assos

A fictional Jeffery Loria you are! I tend to fire either my pitching or batting coach before I remove my brains.

No, no, I actually WON something, and they didn't lose 100 games the next year, so I can't be Loria.

I usually don't ax the pitching/batting coaches unless it's obvious the problem is in one of those categories.

Rizon · 06-16-2015, 07:33 PM

You need to make sure your setting for "Hack Opponent's Database" is checked under your Team Settings menu.

metsguy234 · 06-16-2015, 07:54 PM

Honestly, if you're struggling at the default level, there's no shame at tinkering the settings to make things a bit easier.

I am a veteran OOTP player, and for example, I'll admit that I keep trading difficulty set on "easy". There's no shame in this, you should play the game however it's the most fun for you.

24Rocks · 06-16-2015, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Willy McGee

I know this forum is going to be full of fans and I'm going to catch all kinds of grief, but, this game is pitiful. In the last month I don't know how many sims I've started and can't get the Cardinals going above .500 to save my life. Pitchers hit home runs, batters get doubles when I'm pitching around, and more silliness than I can even remember. I wish I had never bought this thing. I thought I was to close to the Cardinals so I started a sim with the Nats and that fell to crap as well. I think I'm about finished with it. It's really disappointing because I love baseball and was really excited about getting this game.

REAL players = things we dont like happening happening
Real players = preform either wayyy better or so bad then we think they should

Play fictional = players/teams dont hurt you so much when your starting out, once you get deep in to the game then its like real life because you have become attached but Its also baseball and even in games like this you see teams that should win lose and you don't know why

Give it time man OOTP really is the best baseball game

fuzzy_patters · 06-17-2015, 12:26 PM

I think that's one of the things that I like about playing with real players. I've played enough fantasy baseball to know that that is reality. For example, my current fantasy team was projected by Yahoo Sports projections to finish in first and to have great hitting, which was my intention when I drafted them. They are in last in every hitting category and are dominating the pitching categories. Go figure. OOTP has the same amount of frustration and unpredictability.

ThePretender · 06-17-2015, 01:19 PM

How do we know the problem is the game and not you? What are your players and their ratings?

Garrett67 · 06-17-2015, 05:11 PM

You're right, this game does suck...all of my free time away!

Seriously though. There are SO many ways that you can play this game that you will find something that you love. Trust me on that .

rjl518 · 06-17-2015, 08:01 PM

dont give up...sooner or later...you will find your stride...trust me...took me a while to finally know what to do...which is...well...i still dont have a clue!

MizzouRah · 06-17-2015, 08:48 PM

Can you change the thread title? This game definitely does NOT suck.

Might be tough.. which is what most of us have been wanting for years.. a good challenge!

RchW · 06-17-2015, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Can you change the thread title? This game definitely does NOT suck.

Might be tough.. which is what most of us have been wanting for years.. a good challenge!

I agree. The thread title sucks not the game.

r0nster · 06-17-2015, 09:10 PM

once you get deep in to the game then its like real life because you have become attached but Its also baseball and even in games like this you see teams that should win lose and you don't know why

I can vouch for this from 24 rocks for There have been a few players I got attached to and wouldn't trade for nothing in fact rooting for them as well. Sounds stupid yet I have a feeling that many if not all of us have done that at one time or another.

IsaacR · 06-17-2015, 09:27 PM

I've played about 20-25 seasons in OOTP16 so far. Until yesterday, I hadn't won a World Series/championship. And I would bet that I have a losing record if you'd combine all my leagues.

This game is hard. It's impossible to completely master unless you cheat. Don't give up, because it's worth it when you finally win.

MizzouRah · 06-17-2015, 09:58 PM

Perfect example.. I've played EA's NHL series on the consoles for many, many years. Tonight, I won the Stanley Cup with my Blues.. first time I've ever won it!

STeK · 06-17-2015, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Can you change the thread title? This game definitely does NOT suck.

Might be tough.. which is what most of us have been wanting for years.. a good challenge!

"I suck at playing this game" would be a more fitting title...

Lukas Berger · 06-17-2015, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MizzouRah

Can you change the thread title? This game definitely does NOT suck.

Might be tough.. which is what most of us have been wanting for years.. a good challenge!

I don't think he can actually change the title at this point.

I don't like it either, and I could change it, but I'm not sure it's really right to run around changing other people's thread titles unless they're clearly violations of the forum rules or something.

If, upon further review, the op wanted the title changed then I'd be happy to oblige

06-16-2015, 03:04 PM	#42
ThatSeventiesGuy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 3,424	I had a team in a fictional league coming off two straight championships. Started 42-43, fired the manager. Finished first with over 90 wins, won a third straight championship. So, try firing Matheny if all else fails, although I'd wait until the end of a season. __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...00&postcount=1

06-16-2015, 04:04 PM	#45
fuzzy_patters All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,806	I feel your pain. Here are my winning percentages for my first five years with the White Sox. I'm in September of year five. 2015 .395 2016 .414 2017 .456 2018 .518 2019 .589 2020 .471 My winning percentage for 2020 was sub .400 until a hot August. I have mostly the same players as last year, and most of them are still twenty-somethings. I went from first in the league in defensive efficiency to second from last. What happened? To heck if I know. I'm about ready to set fire to my laptop, but I'm going to keep playing. Edit: I did lose an all-star, Jose Abreu, to free agency. Is his absence why my team suddenly sucks? That's doubtful. My consistent improvement came from consistently improving defensively. Abreu was my DH. That's OOTP. Sometimes, the unexplainable happens. Last edited by fuzzy_patters; 06-16-2015 at 04:07 PM.

06-16-2015, 07:33 PM	#47
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,369	You need to make sure your setting for "Hack Opponent's Database" is checked under your Team Settings menu. __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

06-17-2015, 08:01 PM	#53
rjl518 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Born in Shea Stadium, lives in LoanDepot Park. Posts: 6,242	dont give up...sooner or later...you will find your stride...trust me...took me a while to finally know what to do...which is...well...i still dont have a clue! __________________ My Threads: MLB Project 32 by SFGiants58 "Colon looking for his 1st hit of the year and he DRIVES ONE! Deep left field! Back goes Upton! Back near the wall! ITS OUTTA HERE!!! Bartolo has done it!!! THE IMPOSSIBLE HAS HAPPENED!!! This is one of the great moments in the history of baseball! Bartolo Colon has gone deep!" ---Gary Cohen. (May 7, 2016) (Petco Park) NYM 6 @ SD 3

06-16-2015, 01:03 PM	#41
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,788	Things can chance within a season as well. I just had a team who was cruising with about a .650 winning percentage at the All-Star break, comfortably a few games in first, and ended up missing the playoffs by about 5 games, being around 11 games behind the division leader. I've also had teams do the opposite, be around .500 at mid-season and end up going like 55-25 down the stretch to easily cruise to a division win.

06-16-2015, 03:49 PM	#44
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,047	I am always looking to improve my coaching staff starting with the major leagues then work my way down. I will fire the not so good coaches if I can get a better one to my liking. Cant get too attached to players or coaches.

06-16-2015, 07:54 PM	#48
metsguy234 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Washington, D.C. Posts: 298	Honestly, if you're struggling at the default level, there's no shame at tinkering the settings to make things a bit easier. I am a veteran OOTP player, and for example, I'll admit that I keep trading difficulty set on "easy". There's no shame in this, you should play the game however it's the most fun for you.

06-17-2015, 12:26 PM	#50
fuzzy_patters All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 1,806	I think that's one of the things that I like about playing with real players. I've played enough fantasy baseball to know that that is reality. For example, my current fantasy team was projected by Yahoo Sports projections to finish in first and to have great hitting, which was my intention when I drafted them. They are in last in every hitting category and are dominating the pitching categories. Go figure. OOTP has the same amount of frustration and unpredictability.

06-17-2015, 01:19 PM	#51
ThePretender All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1,321	How do we know the problem is the game and not you? What are your players and their ratings?

06-17-2015, 05:11 PM	#52
Garrett67 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Union City, Michigan Posts: 282	You're right, this game does suck...all of my free time away! Seriously though. There are SO many ways that you can play this game that you will find something that you love. Trust me on that .

06-17-2015, 08:48 PM	#54
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	Can you change the thread title? This game definitely does NOT suck. Might be tough.. which is what most of us have been wanting for years.. a good challenge!

06-17-2015, 09:10 PM	#56
r0nster Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2006 Location: Michigan Posts: 3,047	once you get deep in to the game then its like real life because you have become attached but Its also baseball and even in games like this you see teams that should win lose and you don't know why I can vouch for this from 24 rocks for There have been a few players I got attached to and wouldn't trade for nothing in fact rooting for them as well. Sounds stupid yet I have a feeling that many if not all of us have done that at one time or another.

06-17-2015, 09:27 PM	#57
IsaacR Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Bowie, Maryland Posts: 464	I've played about 20-25 seasons in OOTP16 so far. Until yesterday, I hadn't won a World Series/championship. And I would bet that I have a losing record if you'd combine all my leagues. This game is hard. It's impossible to completely master unless you cheat. Don't give up, because it's worth it when you finally win.

06-17-2015, 09:58 PM	#58
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	Perfect example.. I've played EA's NHL series on the consoles for many, many years. Tonight, I won the Stanley Cup with my Blues.. first time I've ever won it!