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Old 05-16-2020, 06:58 PM   #41
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I not only play out the games, I also live stream a lot of them on my YouTube channel. It's blast to do and it helps to introduce people to the game.

(No, this isn't a way to plug my channel, it's just an example of how much I love playing out the games).
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Old 05-16-2020, 07:04 PM   #42
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All that being said, as much as we like to say that this is a simulation and it is the BEST in the universe, it still is a GAME!
One more thing.
Can't everyone be a little nicer when posting when they don't agree with certain things that are said?
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Old 05-16-2020, 07:14 PM   #43
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Wow

Just curious, did you ever win any you shouldn't have?
Very FEW, my friend, very FEW!
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Old 05-16-2020, 08:41 PM   #44
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Anyone else get their "ass kicked" in a PM from rjl518? Or was I special?

Apparently this poster still thinks that their team blowing a 4-run lead in the ninth inning counts as the AI cheating.

I maintain that they don't know what they are talking about
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Old 05-16-2020, 09:04 PM   #45
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Anyone else get their "ass kicked" in a PM from rjl518? Or was I special?

Apparently this poster still thinks that their team blowing a 4-run lead in the ninth inning counts as the AI cheating.

I maintain that they don't know what they are talking about
Obviously, you didn't read the entire thread that I PMd you to read did you?
Nevermind.
I'm out this thread!
So difficult to give an opinion these days without some "guy" thinking he knows more than you do.
Say what you want.
Hope that makes you feel superior to everyone else!
Bye!
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Old 05-16-2020, 09:09 PM   #46
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Obviously, you didn't read the whole thread did you?
Nevermind.
I'm out this thread!
So difficult to give an opinion these days without some "guy" thinking he knows more than you do.
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No, rjl, I didn't read the entire 27 page thread after reading the first post saying that because your team blew a 4 run lead you concluded that the AI was cheating.

If there's something specific you'd like to point out, point it out,
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Old 05-16-2020, 09:28 PM   #47
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No, rjl, I didn't read the entire 27 page thread after reading the first post saying that because your team blew a 4 run lead you concluded that the AI was cheating.

If there's something specific you'd like to point out, point it out,
I've got to see this thread...
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Old 05-17-2020, 01:51 AM   #48
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Now, lets get to the reason why i named this season's title "THE OOTP AI STILL CHEATS!!!"
Last year, in my season, in Game 3 of the NLCS, the NY Mets had a 4-0 lead going into the bottom of the 9th against the SF Giants.
http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...t=mets&page=25
Then, no matter what i tried to do, the Giants scored 5 runs in the 9th to win the game.
The Mets, of course, went on to lose the NLCS 4-3.
So, i blamed the AI as it just cheated it's A$$ off to win a game that i felt we had no business losing.
Now, of course, Markus and the other developers of OOTP deny this.
https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...ghlight=cheats
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Old 05-17-2020, 02:02 AM   #49
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This year, we will try to prove it.
At the start of the season, i will take the Mets and the Opening Day roster provided by OOTP and force trades to put the BEST players on the Mets for the 2018 season.
I will make the decision according to overall ratings, potential ratings and other factors.
So that means players like Kershaw, Harper, Stanton, Altuve, Trout and others will be on this Mets team for my season for 2018!
Since I believe that the AI cheats, I will cheat the AI by putting together the best baseball team for the season.
If any minor to major injuries occur to any of my players, another FORCED TRADE will be made to replace that player with the best player available by my standards if i need to.
All of the current players on the 2018 Mets will be released to free agency and the AI can send them where they want to.
We will still play out a 162 game season.
I will still manage every game.
With the new OOTP graphics, playing every game should be even more fun than last year.
Now, with this team that will be potentially put together, THERE WILL BE NO EXCUSES TO NOT WIN THE NL EAST DIVISION, THE NL PENNANT AND THE WORLD SERIES!
Now, if anyone wants to blame my managing style, that's ok too.
But with a team that should have an average of 70-80 overall ratings on the mound, the bullpen, the field and at the plate, there should be NO EXCUSES to bring a championship back to Queens.
Now, if i do not succeed in my endeavors to win the 2018 World Series, i will show evidence that the AI, when playing each and every game out and NOT using the SIMULATION engine, doesn't like to lose
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ARZ Diamondbacks 0
NY METS 1
Citi Field

NY METS WINS NLDS 3-2!
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The AI tried its best to beat me today.
No scoring until the 10th in a game like this?
Really?
AI CHEATS!
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Old 05-17-2020, 02:07 AM   #50
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As far as the Postseason goes, it has been very interesting.
The Diamondbacks took the All-Star Mets to five games in the NLDS and almost got away with it. (AI CHEATS!)
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2018 NLCS---Game 2
LA Dodgers 5
NY METS 0
Citi Field

The Mets bats disappear as the Dodgers tie the series up!


For NYM:
A game where there was no way i was going to win. (AI CHEATS!)

The Mets left 6 men on base but grounded into FOUR double-plays! (AI CHEATS!!)
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NEW YORK METS!!!
2018 NATIONAL LEAGUE CHAMPIONS!!!

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Old 05-17-2020, 02:13 AM   #51
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2018 World Series---Game 2
MIN Twins 3
NY METS 1
Citi Field
(11 Innings)

Another extra inning game in the World Series, only this time its the MIN Twins who even it all up! (AI CHEATS!)

The Mets gave Thor no run support as they left 12 men on base! (AI CHEATS!!)
A second straight pitcher's duel, but this one we lose. (AI CHEATS!!!)
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2018 World Series---Game 3
NY METS 5
MIN Twins 7
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For NYM:
Stephen Strasburg pitches his worst game of the playoffs.
He gives up 5 runs on 10 hits thru 4 innings of work. (AI CHEATS!)

One of the reasons how the Twins got the runs was that Josh Donaldson committed a HUGE error in the 7th which gave the Twins an extra out. (AI CHEATS!!)
Then Sale hit the next batter!(AI CHEATS!!!)
With Strasburg on the mound, i expected to win this game. (AI CHEATS!!!!)
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Old 05-17-2020, 02:15 AM   #52
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2018 World Series---Game 5
NY METS 3
MIN Twins 4
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The NY Mets bullpen completely blows the game as for the 2nd straight year, we go back home down 3-2 in a series. (AI CHEATS!)

But the Twins get 3 runs in the 6th and the Mets just could not get anything since then! (AI CHEATS!!)

Jorge Polanco gets a 3-run double to tie the game for the Twins in the 6th inning. (AI CHEATS!!)
Then a PH-single by Kennys Vargas in the 9th wins it. (AI CHEATS!!!)

A team with 128 wins is down 3-2 in the World Series by a team that has NO BUSINESS beating us!
But i am at the mercy of the AI!
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Now to all of you that have been reading this report since day one.
Have i proved to you that the OOTP AI CHEATS????
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Old 05-17-2020, 02:20 AM   #53
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MIN Twins WIN World Series 4-2!
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2018 World Series---Game 6
MIN Twins 5
NY METS 3
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With the help of some superb pitching by Jose Berrios and a Mets bullpen that forgot how to pitch, the MIN Twins pull off the upset of the year! (AI CHEATS!)
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Old 05-17-2020, 02:29 AM   #54
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I set out to prove at the start of this season that the OOTP AI cheats when it comes to playing games out!
Well, i was hoping that Markus' software would prove me wrong, but it didn't!

THE FRIGGIN' OOTP AI CHEATS IT'S FRIGGIN' A$$ OFF!!!
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If i had SIMULATED the season with this team, im still not sure i would have won it all.
During the beta, all those months ago, i pretty much put together the same team that you see now and i simmed the season 5 times.
Only ONE WS championship!
Their whole thing is that the AI "CHEATS" when *playing games out*, but even simming, they can see that they don't always win.

Destroying the entire argument

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Old 05-17-2020, 03:06 AM   #55
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The code is exactly the same, whether you play out games or you sim them.
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Old 05-17-2020, 03:30 AM   #56
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This thread got crazy lol
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Old 05-17-2020, 08:10 AM   #57
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Worth it to play games?

Wow. God really cheated the 2001 Mariners, then.

Or even the 2001 Yankees.


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Old 05-17-2020, 10:11 AM   #58
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If the Mariners can get cheated by something, they will.

'Tis the Mariners way.
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Old 05-17-2020, 11:30 AM   #59
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I could probably go on for hours in terms of situations where the "better team on paper" lost. I won't, because I don't want to take up everyone's time.

I'll leave it at this (drawing on another sport, because I've already done baseball). The 2007 Patriots (UNDEFEATED) lost the Super Bowl to the 9-7 (regular season) New York Giants.

*mic drop*
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Old 05-17-2020, 03:40 PM   #60
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I don't play out many games maybe 2 or 3 dozen I just enjoy the overall organizational management aspect better. There isn't much one can do with the DH during the game. I don't feel like clicking space bar a million times each game. Or just sitting back and watching highlights.

The biggest thing about playing out vs simming to me is the bullpen. The AI handles my bullpen horrendously. I can tell when simming you will see a string of games where you give up crazy amount of runs you check the bullpen and everyone's is under 15% red. So I have stop the sim and do some AAA carpooling to get fresh arms up for a couple games.

In my last season I actually went to 14 pitchers. Only had to do the carpool 1 time the entire season and my team won 110 games.

Now some players have fun and get entertainment from playing out the games so for them it's worth it. You have to determine if its fun or not for. If its not then only skip it. I usually only do like milestone, rival games, or 1st mlb player games.
I totally agree. I prefer to play out every game but when I do let it sim for a week or two, it seems my entire bullpen and even starters who should be somewhat fresh are all tired.
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