General Baseball Image Discussion

[Rainmaker]

Originally Posted by jwisenberg

How about a senior class picture of Braves no 1 pick Donald Young from Dos Pueblos class of 75 yearbook and one of him from a team photo

He was the only Braves No. 1 pick who I had no image at all. He was invited to camp subsequently so there are Young photos "out there;" they've just never been exposed to daylight!

[Cusick]

Here is a shot of Don Young with the Greenwood Braves. It is from the Greenwood (SC) Index-Journal of May 7, 1977.

Using newspaper searches of newspapers.com and genealogybank, I could find no evidence that Don Young was in the Atlanta Braves' camp in either 1976 or 1977. He was still in school in the spring of 1975 and was out of pro baseball in 1978.

[FatJack]

Originally Posted by Cusick

Here is a shot of Don Young with the Greenwood Braves. It is from the Greenwood (SC) Index-Journal of May 7, 1977.

Using newspaper searches of newspapers.com and genealogybank, I could find no evidence that Don Young was in the Atlanta Braves' camp in either 1976 or 1977. He was still in school in the spring of 1975 and was out of pro baseball in 1978.

Just a note. Absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence (not that you say otherwise).

2 factors point to the likelihood of Don Young having been in camp with the Braves at some point. 1) He was a first round pick and 2) He was drafted as a catcher. A first round draft pick catcher? I'd say there's a better than 60% chance he made it to camp at some point. No, it does not matter at all that B-R lists him as an outfielder. There are always extra catchers in camp, whether officially on an invite or not (and whether or not they ever see game action). Let's not forget Don Johnson (the one not on Miami Vice). And first round picks almost always end up in camp at some point, even when they are total busts.

Following some of the Mets minor leaguers, I have found several who were "out of baseball" in a given year, yet were in camp that very year (although no evidence of such may exist). Teams don't like tossing away first round draft picks without at least one last look. I've also found several (usually pitchers) who appeared to be out of the game at a certain point but were, in fact, injured or recovering from surgery. Sometimes, the only reason a team hangs onto a player in those years is not any desire to see if they can bounce back, but because of their legal obligation to do so (obviously far less of an issue through the 60s). Until the dawn of "The Age of the Rookie" in the late 80s, the newspaper view of such players was "out of sight, why would anyone care, who again?" So a camp appearance in '78 (or even '79) can not be ruled out entirely.

None of which is to say that there is an image in the Vault or elsewhere of Mr. Young with the Braves. But it certainly can not be ruled out. There was no Vault image of Greg Harts...until there was. If nothing else, its inconceivable to me that no one would have taken color publicity shots of a first round pick in the 70s. So light a candle, say a prayer, and wish upon a star. Dreams do come true.

[FatJack]

Oops.

[rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com]

Anyone with photos of Roger L. McSwain. He went to Crest High School 1964-68 and Gardner Webb College 1969-72 and played for Appleton in 1972 Drafted by Pilots 1968 and White Sox 1972. Thanks to any response

[Cusick]

Originally Posted by rlumpkin1@tampabay.rr.com

Anyone with photos of Roger L. McSwain. He went to Crest High School 1964-68 and Gardner Webb College 1969-72 and played for Appleton in 1972 Drafted by Pilots 1968 and White Sox 1972. Thanks to any response

I'll post a photo of Roger McSwain on the minor league thread, where it belongs.

[Rainmaker]

Several new old images that would be knockouts with a little color correction. After the great work here in recent weeks, I wasn't looking for more to do, but found them anyway. High fives and props in advance.



This shot of Jerry Casale (FG943) looks like it was taken at the last total eclipse



Mickey Vernon (EH483) made many stops, including Milwaukee in 1959.



Don Demeter (hx907) is all over the Vault, but I really like this shot (or think I will).



Billy Wilson (GV181) only on one card in old school uni, the Phillies' road uni. Here is home sweet home.



Harvey Haddix (HV219) closed out his career as Oriole in 1965.

[SPORTSMEM817]

See above post for names or save and the image title will save the photo

[Rainmaker]

Amazing how the right touch brings these back to life. Superb!

[FatJack]

Originally Posted by FatJack

Hadn't seen it posted anywhere until just now, but former Cardinal pitcher Steve Waterbury passed away on May 19, 2017.

Steve got into 5 games with the Cards in 1976 without a decision. He gave up 4 runs on 7 hits and 3 walks over 6 innings, with 4 strikeouts. I don't remember him, but it's said he had a blazing fastball. At the time he played, his claim to fame was that he was, at 6' 5", baseball's second tallest pitcher (behind 6' 8" J.R. Richard) in 1976.

Around these parts, I could see his claim to fame being that he was involved in the 1977 trade with the Phillies that brought the even more elusive in a Cardinals uni image Tom Underwood to St. Louis. There's a decent looking head shot of Steve with the Phillies in one of those Newspapers.com pages, but I (happily) let my subscription lapse. The attached, from some autograph sales site, is the best image of Steve with the Cards that I could find online. Tom Underwood with the Cards? Still nothing useful. Steve, btw, never got back to the show. The Cubs gave him a spring invite in 1979, after the Phils released him, but he did not impress. And so ended his baseball career.

Steve went back to his Marion, Illinois home where he eventually became the Chief of Police. He made headlines in 2013/2014 when it was found that Marion's former Police Chief had a Meth lab in his garage (no, I will not post the picture of the wacky Meth Steve Waterbury). He plead to a lesser charge and got off fairly light. It does sound like he cleaned up his life after that.

The best he ever did, as far as a baseball card, appears to be a B&W minor league card with the 1976 Tulsa Oilers and a 1977-78 sticker from Venezuela. Both can be seen online, if you look, and both are (visually) not worth looking for. Just sayin'.

Speak of the devil... Too bad it's not a Cardinals image.

[dennis_keith]

Nick Markakkis, a steady, consistent, if unspectacular hitter, collected his 2,000th major league hit on
August 3, during his 12th major league season. The .288 career hitter is one of the few players of
the All-Star Game Era (1933 to present) to reach the 2,000 hits milestone without ever being selected
as an all-star. He is also the active player leader in major leagues games played (about 1,790) among
players who have never made a major league all-star team. (2016 Topps Heritage- card #250).

[SPORTSMEM817]

Passed from brain cancer. Always was a pleasant person to talk to. See the link for more info


http://www.fox29.com/news/272323181-story

[SPORTSMEM817]

"Baylor played for seven first-place teams in his 19 seasons and was a respected clubhouse leader, earning Manager-of-the-Year recognition in his post-playing career. The powerfully built 6-foot-1, 195-pounder hit 338 home runs and drove in 1,276 runs, and clicked on all cylinders when he claimed the AL Most Valuable Player award in 1979. Not only did he lead the California Angels to their first-ever playoff appearance by pacing both leagues in both runs scored and RBIs, he proved unafraid to kick 30 or so reporters out of the clubhouse. After a critical loss in Kansas City late in that season’s pennant race, the press corps made the mistake of asking losing pitcher Chris Knapp about a “choke” within earshot of Baylor, who promptly ordered them to leave". read more herehttp://sabr.org/bioproj/person/dbdccbfa

http://www.statesman.com/sports/form...dytuifUju9UJM/

[FatJack]

It appears that Dominick Zanni, a relief pitcher for the Giants, White Sox and Reds in the 50s and 60s, passed away on or about July 6, 2017.

The attached image of a Pinelawn marker was spotted on a sports collector's website by members of a public Yahoo necrology group. It's worth noting that Pinelawn Memorial Park is located near where Mr. Zanni made his home.

The autographed White Sox image was part of a recently completed eBay offering from seller sa124691o3. The Reds image was offered by eBay seller postcardsandsnaps back in April 2015.

[SDL]

Originally Posted by SPORTSMEM817

Passed from brain cancer. Always was a pleasant person to talk to. See the link for more info


http://www.fox29.com/news/272323181-story

I live near the Phillies complex. I'd see him during ST. He'd walk around and chat with the fans. Since I'm Dutch-American, I asked him if he was as well. He said he wasn't but hed always had the nickname of "Dutch."

A great man who will be missed.

[SDL]

Originally Posted by SPORTSMEM817

"Baylor played for seven first-place teams in his 19 seasons and was a respected clubhouse leader, earning Manager-of-the-Year recognition in his post-playing career. The powerfully built 6-foot-1, 195-pounder hit 338 home runs and drove in 1,276 runs, and clicked on all cylinders when he claimed the AL Most Valuable Player award in 1979. Not only did he lead the California Angels to their first-ever playoff appearance by pacing both leagues in both runs scored and RBIs, he proved unafraid to kick 30 or so reporters out of the clubhouse. After a critical loss in Kansas City late in that season’s pennant race, the press corps made the mistake of asking losing pitcher Chris Knapp about a “choke” within earshot of Baylor, who promptly ordered them to leave". read more herehttp://sabr.org/bioproj/person/dbdccbfa

http://www.statesman.com/sports/form...dytuifUju9UJM/

AS a Red Sox fan, I will never forget what he did for us in 1986...

[SPORTSMEM817]

"The Washington Senators (1961-1971) played two games longer than 20-innings, the first on June 12, 1967 (22 innings), the second on June 4, 1971 (21 innings). The catcher behind the plate during both marathon game was none other than Paul Casanova!

Did you know that when Phil Niekro threw a no-hitter on August 5, 1973, against the San Diego Padres, the first for the Braves after moving to Atlanta, the catcher during that historical gem was (once again) Paul Casanova " :Baseball Almanac


https://twitter.com/ExamineBaseball/...31275069513729

[dennis_keith]

Don Larsen, of 1956 World Series Perfect Game fame, is now the youngest person on the Wikipedia Oldest Living major leaguers list ranking in age at #125. He turned 88 this week. (birthdate: 8/7/1929).

[dennis_keith]

On August 10 Rhys Hoskins (1B/OF) debuted for the Phillies, becoming the 2,028th player in their franchise history. By my count, there are 27 Phillies players of whom no photos exist. The Missing Players list of this website lists 17 missing Phillies players, but they don't count 10 players who there are sketches of, but no photos. On August 1 pitcher, Drew Anderson became the 2,000th Phillies player for whom there are photos of, with Hoskins becoming the 2,001st in that category nine days later.

[dennis_keith]

I'm sorry to hear of Paul Casanova's passing this week at age 75. He was well-known for getting down on one knee at times to give his pitcher an especially low target. He was selected as a third string catcher behind
Bill Freehan and Andy Etchebarren for the 1967 all-star game, but even with that game going 15 innings to break the previous record of 14 innings (1950), Casanova still was not used in the longest all-star game in history.