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svn · 09-03-2016, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

I have not been able to find two Jose's as yet.

It was a 1983 sim if that helps. I ended up deleting the non "The Chemist" one in mine.

Spritze · 09-03-2016, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by svn

It was a 1983 sim if that helps. I ended up deleting the non "The Chemist" one in mine.

Not two Jose Canseco's so something else must have barfed for you.

David Watts · 09-04-2016, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

Not two Jose Canseco's so something else must have barfed for you.

I wonder if one of the Canseco's is a fictional Jose? He said only one had the "Chemist" nickname.

Spritze · 09-04-2016, 10:25 AM

I asked to have the invisible Fictional/Historical player flag added to the Dropdown Options in OOTP18 for that very reason.

svn · 09-05-2016, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

I asked to have the invisible Fictional/Historical player flag added to the Dropdown Options in OOTP18 for that very reason.

There was also a Bud Black and a Buddy Black.

edm · 09-06-2016, 05:08 AM

Not a big deal, but I just noticed my historical league has two CC Sabathia's. One has his complete real stats listed, the other only 2015 (if that matters).

Spritze · 09-06-2016, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by svn

There was also a Bud Black and a Buddy Black.

Harold and William = 2 different fellas

Spritze · 09-06-2016, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by edm

Not a big deal, but I just noticed my historical league has two CC Sabathia's. One has his complete real stats listed, the other only 2015 (if that matters).

fixed

risp2out · 09-23-2016, 12:37 PM

Quick note from a 1914 game I just set up: Lynn Brenton and "Turkey Mike" Donlin are both listed as being born in Peoria, AZ. They were, of course, born in Peoria, IL, as I imagine there was no Peoria, AZ at the time they were born in the late 1800s.

kcharles520 · 09-23-2016, 03:26 PM

i am using "real transations and lineups" yet in the first game of the 1995 season, seattle has ken griffey jr. batting 8th?

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Edit: I *am* setting my own teams lineup however...would that then cause the CPU to set all of the other teams' lineups instead of using real life ones?

Spritze · 09-26-2016, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by risp2out

Quick note from a 1914 game I just set up: Lynn Brenton and "Turkey Mike" Donlin are both listed as being born in Peoria, AZ. They were, of course, born in Peoria, IL, as I imagine there was no Peoria, AZ at the time they were born in the late 1800s.

There are about 1,200 MLB player birthplace names missing from the OOTP world.dat file. I do not know who is in charge of that but OOTP developments is aware of the challenge.

Spritze · 09-26-2016, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kcharles520

i am using "real transations and lineups" yet in the first game of the 1995 season, seattle has ken griffey jr. batting 8th?

Edit: I *am* setting my own teams lineup however...would that then cause the CPU to set all of the other teams' lineups instead of using real life ones?

I believe so.

so49as · 09-29-2016, 06:27 PM

Hello, 1973 season, and I'm running the Cardinals, and I think the GCL setup/schedule is messed up.

For my GCL affiliate, I noticed that during August I had 19 scheduled doubleheaders. I checked the league standings and saw that as of August, the GCL Red Birds have played 66 games, most others have played in the low 30s, the Indians team has played 61, and the Reds have played 0.

My Red Birds also show up twice in the standings.

Baseball-reference lists 2 Cardinals affiliates, but I only have 1.

Cheers!

Spritze · 09-29-2016, 07:09 PM

Schedules are created on the fly AFAIK.

I will check the affiliates affiliations affably.

Diamond Jim G · 10-05-2016, 12:05 PM

The day arrived, I clicked on the link to the League Expansion Draft, and there was only the background skin. Couldn't get the two expansion teams to show up or conduct the draft. Thanks.

Spritze · 10-05-2016, 02:45 PM

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The day arrived, I clicked on the link to the League Expansion Draft, and there was only the background skin. Couldn't get the two expansion teams to show up or conduct the draft. Thanks.

It worked for me just now. Expansion took place a day or two after the Whirled Series ended.

hockeyman001 · 11-25-2016, 09:46 PM

not sure if already posted, but...

historic postseason GP are incorrect (too low) when i start a historical league for the real seasons that have "already happened" prior to the league's creation.

for instance Nomar Garciaparra only played 5 postseason games in 2003 according to the game, but he played 12 in real life. all of his other stats are correct.

also blown saves are missing from historic stats when i start a historic league. this is a pretty significant stat, and ought to be added into the historic stats.

Spritze · 11-28-2016, 05:47 PM

Blown saves are not available in a historic context. Nobody never counted them in a meaningful manner and nobody put them into most downloadable stats 1871-2015

Amazin69 · 11-29-2016, 06:15 PM

Have started a 1969 game and am discovering that Jim Ray Hart is incorrectly listed with "Jim" as his first name and "Ray Hart" as his surname, as if he were Bruce Dal Canton or Todd Van Poppel or the like.

This has two distinct negative effects:

• It knocks out Hart's Historic ID (hartji01), since the game is looking for something starting with "r", and as a consequence of this…

• Hart's MLB stats do not load. (His minors stats are ok, since the minors ID survived, somehow) According to the game, Hart played two years in the minors and then has been an inactive FA since 1963. Please correct this.

Also, on an (I think) unrelated point, Hart's date of birth is listed as October 30, 1940; the sources I've checked show 1941, instead.

Bobby Gene Smith is listed simply as "Bobby Smith" in the game, and so doesn't have this issue. And I can't think of any other "two first names" players who might have this problem off the top of my head, but if you can, please check them out as well.

Thanks in advance.

ETA: Not that simple, it appears. The "real" Jim Ray Hart is in his proper place, on the Giants, with "Ray" correctly ID'd as part of his first name and using the "hartji01" Historic ID and its attendant MLB stat history.

It's just that he's spawned this döppelgänger, Jim "Ray Hart", who has custody of the Historic Minors ID (hart--007jam) and has the minors stats that are missing from MLB Jim Ray's records.

So we've got one Hart who the game thinks went straight to the majors in 1963, and a Ray Hart who the game thinks played in the minors in 1962-1963 and then took a very long vacation. It's pretty much like the Star Trek episode where Captain Kirk is split in two (or the Buffy the Vampire Slayer ep where something similar happens to Xander, or however many more copies/homages have been done…), isn't it? Can you please get the two Harts reintegrated before Steve Ontiveros freezes to death down on the planet, or whatever? Again, thanks.

Spritze · 11-29-2016, 09:11 PM

fixed

09-04-2016, 10:25 AM	#624
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	I asked to have the invisible Fictional/Historical player flag added to the Dropdown Options in OOTP18 for that very reason. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

09-23-2016, 03:26 PM	#630
kcharles520 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2016 Posts: 61	i am using "real transations and lineups" yet in the first game of the 1995 season, seattle has ken griffey jr. batting 8th? Edit: I am setting my own teams lineup however...would that then cause the CPU to set all of the other teams' lineups instead of using real life ones? Last edited by kcharles520; 09-24-2016 at 09:30 AM.

09-29-2016, 07:09 PM	#634
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	Schedules are created on the fly AFAIK. I will check the affiliates affiliations affably. __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

10-05-2016, 12:05 PM	#635
Diamond Jim G Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2014 Posts: 5	1960 League Expansion Draft Glitch? The day arrived, I clicked on the link to the League Expansion Draft, and there was only the background skin. Couldn't get the two expansion teams to show up or conduct the draft. Thanks.

11-25-2016, 09:46 PM	#637
hockeyman001 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 33	not sure if already posted, but... historic postseason GP are incorrect (too low) when i start a historical league for the real seasons that have "already happened" prior to the league's creation. for instance Nomar Garciaparra only played 5 postseason games in 2003 according to the game, but he played 12 in real life. all of his other stats are correct. also blown saves are missing from historic stats when i start a historic league. this is a pretty significant stat, and ought to be added into the historic stats. Last edited by hockeyman001; 11-25-2016 at 09:47 PM.

09-06-2016, 05:08 AM	#626
edm All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,992	Not a big deal, but I just noticed my historical league has two CC Sabathia's. One has his complete real stats listed, the other only 2015 (if that matters).

09-23-2016, 12:37 PM	#629
risp2out All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 648	Quick note from a 1914 game I just set up: Lynn Brenton and "Turkey Mike" Donlin are both listed as being born in Peoria, AZ. They were, of course, born in Peoria, IL, as I imagine there was no Peoria, AZ at the time they were born in the late 1800s.

09-29-2016, 06:27 PM	#633
so49as Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 325	Hello, 1973 season, and I'm running the Cardinals, and I think the GCL setup/schedule is messed up. For my GCL affiliate, I noticed that during August I had 19 scheduled doubleheaders. I checked the league standings and saw that as of August, the GCL Red Birds have played 66 games, most others have played in the low 30s, the Indians team has played 61, and the Reds have played 0. My Red Birds also show up twice in the standings. Baseball-reference lists 2 Cardinals affiliates, but I only have 1. Cheers!

11-28-2016, 05:47 PM	#638
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	Blown saves are not available in a historic context. Nobody never counted them in a meaningful manner and nobody put them into most downloadable stats 1871-2015 __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!

11-29-2016, 06:15 PM	#639
Amazin69 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 3,363 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Have started a 1969 game and am discovering that Jim Ray Hart is incorrectly listed with "Jim" as his first name and "Ray Hart" as his surname, as if he were Bruce Dal Canton or Todd Van Poppel or the like. This has two distinct negative effects: • It knocks out Hart's Historic ID (hartji01), since the game is looking for something starting with "r", and as a consequence of this… • Hart's MLB stats do not load. (His minors stats are ok, since the minors ID survived, somehow) According to the game, Hart played two years in the minors and then has been an inactive FA since 1963. Please correct this. Also, on an (I think) unrelated point, Hart's date of birth is listed as October 30, 1940; the sources I've checked show 1941, instead. Bobby Gene Smith is listed simply as "Bobby Smith" in the game, and so doesn't have this issue. And I can't think of any other "two first names" players who might have this problem off the top of my head, but if you can, please check them out as well. Thanks in advance. ETA: Not that simple, it appears. The "real" Jim Ray Hart is in his proper place, on the Giants, with "Ray" correctly ID'd as part of his first name and using the "hartji01" Historic ID and its attendant MLB stat history. It's just that he's spawned this döppelgänger, Jim "Ray Hart", who has custody of the Historic Minors ID (hart--007jam) and has the minors stats that are missing from MLB Jim Ray's records. So we've got one Hart who the game thinks went straight to the majors in 1963, and a Ray Hart who the game thinks played in the minors in 1962-1963 and then took a very long vacation. It's pretty much like the Star Trek episode where Captain Kirk is split in two (or the Buffy the Vampire Slayer ep where something similar happens to Xander, or however many more copies/homages have been done…), isn't it? Can you please get the two Harts reintegrated before Steve Ontiveros freezes to death down on the planet, or whatever? Again, thanks. Last edited by Amazin69; 11-30-2016 at 04:47 AM.

11-29-2016, 09:11 PM	#640
Spritze OOTP Historical Czar Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Bothell Wa Posts: 7,253	fixed __________________ It's madness, madness, I tell you! For the love of God, don't do it!