New Non-HW Boxers Rated - Page 33

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 04:38 PM

"Black" JOE BERJE FW

Home - Southern California, USA

0-1-0

Joe Berje fought his pro debut on July 8th, 1948 in Stockton, California. Roy Higa won on an eighth round knock out. Tragically, Berje died within a few days from the injuries that he received in the ring.

Edit - this may not have been Berje's only fight. He may be the same fighter called "Black Joe" that was 0-7-1 in the early forties and lost to Harold Hoshino. If that is so, he may have fought under many aliases which would explain the eight round bout for his "debut". He also was likely Phillipino.

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 04:38 PM

"Black" JOE BERJE

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 08:17 PM

ADOLPH SAMUELS BW (1937-1947)

Hometown - Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

1(1)-19-3

With the exception of one bout in Hollywood, Samuels fought his whole career in Hawaii. Despite his dismal record, he was by no means an easy out. In 23 pro bouts, he was stopped three times and fought to the final bell 16 times in bouts of eight or more rounds. He did manage to knock out Yasu Yasutake and drew with Harold Hoshino and Star Frisco. Samuels dropped bouts to Hoshino, David Kui Kong Young(3), Yasutake and Cris Crispan(4).

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 08:17 PM

Adolph Samuels Bw

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 08:49 PM

PATSY FUKUDA FW

Hometown - Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

7(3)-2-3; 1 NC (no record at boxrec)

Fukuda was a club and military fighter in Honolulu trained by Hawaii National Guard boxing coaches Jim Hoao and Bill Huihui.

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 08:49 PM

Patsy Fukuda FW

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 09:01 PM

DICK CHANG BW (1927-1929)

Born - Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

19(4)-8-5 (boxrec shows 4(0)-2-0)

Chang was a Honolulu club fighter that moved to Southern California to be managed by former Welterweight Paul DeHate. His career only lasted three years and he never fought a major opponent.

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 09:02 PM

Dick Chang BW

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 09:24 PM

PAUL DeHATE WW

Hometown - Compton, California, USA

20(6)-13-4

DeHate stopped Paul Desky in 8, decisioned Jack Silver and Young Papke. He also won on DQs over Billy Alger and George Levine. After retirement, DeHate went into management.

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 09:25 PM

PAUL DeHATE WW

swampdragon · 01-31-2005, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

DICK CHANG BW (1927-1929)

Born - Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

19(4)-8-5 (boxrec shows 4(0)-2-0)

Chang was a Honolulu club fighter that moved to Southern California to be managed by former Welterweight Paul DeHate. His career only lasted three years and he never fought a major opponent.

Where are you getting the more complete records? I thought boxrec was the best on the web.

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by swampdragon

Where are you getting the more complete records? I thought boxrec was the best on the web.

They are the best. The larger record may include some exhibitions and / or some amature bouts, it comes from the Journal of Combative Sport.

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 09:59 PM

WALTER CHO BW

Born - Ewa, Hawaii, USA
Hometown - Honolulu, Hawaii, USA

20(8)-5-6

Cho assembled a nice pro record and was ranked as a Hawain Featherweight at one time, but he faced no major opponents. The highlight of the Korean-american's career was being selected to go a tour with three other Hawain boxers to Tokyo in 1933 followed by a trip to his parents' birthplace in Korea. He won three bouts in Tokyo and drew once; the team did not box while in Korea.

After retiring from the ring, Cho stayed active in Hawaii boxing circles. He was picked to be the referee in Hawaii’s first world championship bout (David Kui Kong Young versus Manuel Ortiz, May 30, 1947), plus three other world championship fights. He was also a referee and judge at the US Golden Gloves tournament of champions held in Minnesota 1972. From June 1977 to June 1981 he was a member of the Hawaii State Boxing Commission.

CONN CHRIS · 01-31-2005, 10:00 PM

Walter Cho BW

SAL · 02-01-2005, 12:15 AM

Thanks for the additions CONN. I like the idea of posting new files with photos. Nice touch.

CONN CHRIS · 02-01-2005, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by SAL

Thanks for the additions CONN. I like the idea of posting new files with photos. Nice touch.

Thanks, I just hold 'em for rating at a later date now. managing that other thread is getting to be too much like a job as it is

(But don't stop sending photos guys!)

CONN CHRIS · 02-01-2005, 08:48 AM

I need to appologize for the Frisco McGale rating.

I can only work on photos at my computer that does not house my main TBCB database. Generaly, when I find pictures, I fix them there and transfer them to the other computer to see if they have been rated yet. Yesterday, I was certain that these fighters were not rated and so I created them from the wrong computer. I was sorry to see that in the case of McGale, someone had rated him although I do not know who as the rating wasn't signed.

At any rate, he was in the database as a 7 overall and I gave him a stingy 4. My intention is never to step on anyone's toes like that. If it was your rating that was already in there, please accept my appology. I hope that I did not offend you, had I done the right thing and looked first I would have simply posted McGale's photo to go with your rating.

Debating a rating here is fun, but to simply ignore that someone already did the work to create one is another matter and a bit rude in my opinion. I am a little embarrased about my over sight.

Christopher

CONN CHRIS · 02-01-2005, 03:28 PM

EDDIE OCASIO MW

Hometown - Bronx, New York, USA

3(1)-3-0

Ocasio fought 5 pro bouts in 1948 and one in 1949. Two of his losses were decisions to Jimmy Flood.

CONN CHRIS · 02-01-2005, 03:28 PM

Eddie Ocasio MW (1948-1949)

CONN CHRIS · 02-01-2005, 04:13 PM

WILLARD HAUSSMAN WW

Hometown - Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA

0-2-0

Haussman had two six round decision losses to Booker T. Ellis in 1947.

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SAL Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Joplin MO Posts: 5,732	Thanks for the additions CONN. I like the idea of posting new files with photos. Nice touch.

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CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,030	I need to appologize for the Frisco McGale rating. I can only work on photos at my computer that does not house my main TBCB database. Generaly, when I find pictures, I fix them there and transfer them to the other computer to see if they have been rated yet. Yesterday, I was certain that these fighters were not rated and so I created them from the wrong computer. I was sorry to see that in the case of McGale, someone had rated him although I do not know who as the rating wasn't signed. At any rate, he was in the database as a 7 overall and I gave him a stingy 4. My intention is never to step on anyone's toes like that. If it was your rating that was already in there, please accept my appology. I hope that I did not offend you, had I done the right thing and looked first I would have simply posted McGale's photo to go with your rating. Debating a rating here is fun, but to simply ignore that someone already did the work to create one is another matter and a bit rude in my opinion. I am a little embarrased about my over sight. Christopher __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 02-01-2005 at 09:08 AM.

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CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,030	WILLARD HAUSSMAN WW Hometown - Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA 0-2-0 Haussman had two six round decision losses to Booker T. Ellis in 1947. Attached Images __________________ Check Out My Cards!