My 3D ballpark models

[drksd4848]

Originally Posted by Erosa

I did not, no. I just you the default 3d view.

Could you do me a favor? Only if you feel like it. Try loading in the .prk, then play a game.

*BUT* please make sure you save everything!

[drksd4848]

BTW, Silvam

Where did you get that Green Monster Scoreboad texture for 1970 model?

[Erosa]

Originally Posted by drksd4848

Could you do me a favor? Only if you feel like it. Try loading in the .prk, then play a game.

*BUT* please make sure you save everything!

Ok. I loaded the .prk but unlike the issue you described where it went to the default ootp park- in my case I did not even get that far. It just would not
load and the message I received was 'Not Responding' Then I crashed out.

I reinstalled shea 64 and used just the 3d view and no problem.

[silvam14]

Maybe the prk file is corrupt


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[drksd4848]

Originally Posted by Erosa

Ok. I loaded the .prk but unlike the issue you described where it went to the default ootp park- in my case I did not even get that far. It just would not
load and the message I received was 'Not Responding' Then I crashed out.

I reinstalled shea 64 and used just the 3d view and no problem.

Thanks for trying that man... I guess there's a bug somewhere with OOTP and importing the prk file. I tried it with a few other stadiums and the same thing happened. I should put this up on the main forum and see if others are having the same problem....

Originally Posted by silvam14

Maybe the prk file is corrupt


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I'm not sure it's your .prk file. I think it's more of an OOTP issue. I'll test it out a little bit more tonight.

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by drksd4848

BTW, Silvam

Where did you get that Green Monster Scoreboad texture for 1970 model?

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/234818...01397356/page2

Awesome site I use to get most of my scoreboard textures



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[adion]

Originally Posted by drksd4848

Thanks for trying that man... I guess there's a bug somewhere with OOTP and importing the prk file. I tried it with a few other stadiums and the same thing happened. I should put this up on the main forum and see if others are having the same problem....



I'm not sure it's your .prk file. I think it's more of an OOTP issue. I'll test it out a little bit more tonight.

What, exactly, is the .prk file for, i.e. what information does it contain?

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by adion

What, exactly, is the .prk file for, i.e. what information does it contain?

It's an export of all the park settings in the game. What pictures you use, the dimensions, capacity all of that stuff. In your game go to a stadium and select import manually from a file and choose the park file


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[drksd4848]

Originally Posted by silvam14

https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/234818...01397356/page2

Awesome site I use to get most of my scoreboard textures



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Wow... that is too cool! They even have the old Gem advert!!!

Funny: I saw the old Roosevelt Stadium scoreboard. Back when I was trying to learn Sketchup, I thought that would be a good one to model. Clem has all the diagrams, but it was impossible to find color pictures.

[drksd4848]

BTW, Silvam:

Have you seen this site?

Baltiimore Memorial Stadium - Yesterday's Game

Fenway Park - Yesterday's Game

Excellent shot of the Green Monster Scoreboard with the digital fielding position display. It's a little depressing to see how unbelievable gaudy Fenway has become, thanks to Larry Lucchino and company. It pains me to look at it from 2003 on.

There are a few more ballparks on there as well.

[silvam14]

Originally Posted by drksd4848

BTW, Silvam:

Have you seen this site?

Baltiimore Memorial Stadium - Yesterday's Game

Fenway Park - Yesterday's Game

Excellent shot of the Green Monster Scoreboard with the digital fielding position display. It's a little depressing to see how unbelievable gaudy Fenway has become, thanks to Larry Lucchino and company. It pains me to look at it from 2003 on.

There are a few more ballparks on there as well.

How long was that electronic piece there? Couldn't have been too long


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[adion]

There's a picture of pre-green monster version!

[drksd4848]

Originally Posted by silvam14

How long was that electronic piece there? Couldn't have been too long


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They put the digital part of the scoreboard in sometime between 62-63, then removed it after the '75 world series when Fred Lynn smashed his face into the wall. At that time, it was made of concrete, covered with tin squares and rivets.

They rebuilt the wall prior to the '76 season with aluminum, along with soft padding at the base. They shortened the scoreboard and ditched said digital portion. That's also when it appears - to my eye anyway - the ballpark was painted the familiar "Fenway Green" we all know today. (before that, it was the darker khaki green we see in the pic)

The whole idea for doing that was to keep the players from injuring themselves. The aluminum with padded was more forgiving on your body (or in this case, Fred Lynn. It still didn't stop Yaz still cracking a rib after colliding with scoreboard in '82 - the only part that was NOT covered in padding). This idea was tossed to the wayside by greedy Lucchino, Werner and Henry in order to ring more dollars out the park with adverts in place of the padding.

(I still love Sox. I just absolutely hate what they have become. Actually, just hate that the ownership has turned Fenway and the franchise into a "feel-good circus show". God forbid Spineless Henry and Hollywood Tom grow a pair and fire the stupid manager. But this is another discussion for different forum )

[silvam14]

Good info. Thanks.

You can hate what the sox have become, but there's no arguing with 3 World Series rings


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[drksd4848]

Originally Posted by silvam14

Good info. Thanks.

You can hate what the sox have become, but there's no arguing with 3 World Series rings


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You can call me crazy - many do and totally understandable - The story should have ended at coming back from three games down against the Yankees. They beat the Yankees in seven games, then lose a thrilling world series against the Cardinals.

To be a Red Sox fan was to be a Calvinist. It was all about suffering. I suffered. My mom suffered, My brothers suffered. My grandfather suffered. And that was just how it was. And deep down inside I was proud of that. They weren't like any other franchise. They didn't lose, they'd rip your soul out and stomp on it. What other ball club could do that? The Cubs? Please. The Cubs were just a bunch of sackless losers. The Red Sox would make you suffer. And you'd come back every season and beg for more. I did.

But the Red Sox lost something when they won. All their character vanished. They lost their identity, their hats turned pink and they became way over marketed. And the fan base became nauseating.

The last time I was at Fenway was 2005. I sat next to a know-it-all pink hat girl and all I wanted to do was slug her in the mouth. She was insufferable and ruined the game. I told her I had forgotten more about the Red Sox then she'd ever know and to shut her damn mouth. By the 7th inning, she left and my buddy and I gave her a standing ovation, I'd been to Fenway so many times prior to that and never felt that way. Now I'm like a stranger in a strange land.

I can't even watch them on TV anymore because Hollywood Tom has made NESN absolutely unwatchable.

BTW, all that stuff about the wall came off the top of my head. I didn't have to look up

[silvam14]

I hear ya I live in MA and have been a sox fan my whole life. I'm happy the suffering is over. I don't need that anymore. I love being the city of champions.


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[LouGerig_IronHorse]

drksd4848 - this is great stuff - to hear all of this history as you are telling it is great. Even though I'm a lifelong fan of The Bombers, I tip my cap to you. I love hearing good historical facts and the tidbits that most folks don't know or have long forgotten. I agree with you - and I'll broaden it out a bit - I tend to think it is an affliction that has had a very pronounced impact on professional sports in general. The games aren't what they once were. Neither are the venues. And, as you said, the fan base(s) (plural because, again, I think this has had major impact across the board - literally all teams, all sports.) Look at the NFL - what a three-ring circus that has become, both on and off the field. The NBA and NHL aren't all that far behind. It really feels like the 'purity' that once was a huge part of professional sports has long since flown off into that sweet night. It's all about money - marketing - branding. The game takes a back seat. Tradition takes a back seat. And how many know these kinds of wonderful stories and details about a venue or a team?

Just two cents worth on the topic.

BTW - if you happen to have more stories about the history of Fenway (and the Red Sox) - I for one would be more than happy to hear them. These stories are what the game was built on. Would love to hear more of them.

[drksd4848]

Originally Posted by silvam14

I hear ya I live in MA and have been a sox fan my whole life. I'm happy the suffering is over. I don't need that anymore. I love being the city of champions.

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The strange thing about it is: I've been WAY more comfortable with the Pats winning.

The Patriots kind of morphed into my number one team.

Originally Posted by LouGerig_IronHorse

drksd4848 - this is great stuff - to hear all of this history as you are telling it is great. Even though I'm a lifelong fan of The Bombers, I tip my cap to you. I love hearing good historical facts and the tidbits that most folks don't know or have long forgotten. I agree with you - and I'll broaden it out a bit - I tend to think it is an affliction that has had a very pronounced impact on professional sports in general. The games aren't what they once were. Neither are the venues. And, as you said, the fan base(s) (plural because, again, I think this has had major impact across the board - literally all teams, all sports.) Look at the NFL - what a three-ring circus that has become, both on and off the field. The NBA and NHL aren't all that far behind. It really feels like the 'purity' that once was a huge part of professional sports has long since flown off into that sweet night. It's all about money - marketing - branding. The game takes a back seat. Tradition takes a back seat. And how many know these kinds of wonderful stories and details about a venue or a team?

Just two cents worth on the topic.

BTW - if you happen to have more stories about the history of Fenway (and the Red Sox) - I for one would be more than happy to hear them. These stories are what the game was built on. Would love to hear more of them.

Tell ya what, as far as baseball is concerned. I follow OOTP more than I follow real baseball now. How weird is that?

[silvam14]

Well when you have a class owner like bob Kraft, and Tom Brady. Not much selling out is needsd


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[drksd4848]

Originally Posted by silvam14

Well when you have a class owner like bob Kraft, and Tom Brady. Not much selling out is needsd


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Exactly. Kraft is a hall of fame worthy owner. The whole family is pure class.

Yeah, they may have won three world series, but Henry, Werner and when he was there Lucchino (and his disgusting butt-boy Dr. Charles) are lying, back-stabbing, dirt bags. Werner is such a snake.

When I heard Lucchino is going Red Sox hall of fame I almost threw up on myself.

I can't wait to hear all the dirt they leak about John Farrell after he 'resigns'. Because they don't have the testicles to actually fire someone.

Gawd... I soooo hijacked this thread. Silvam...Please post another stadium. It'll force me to shut my mouth. I've just revealed that I'm a card-carrying member of the 'fellowship of the miserable'