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Update #14 For Cinemaodyssey's Facepack
The link in my initial post in this thread has been updated to include the 15th edition of my Facepack. This edition includes all player debuts from the 2024 season, missing players, numerous newspaper finds and upgrades to a lot of photos. I've been focused heavily on more front-facing photos of players to better represent their features.
Alex Main- 8/17/1915 Newark Evening Star Allie Moulton- 7/14/1911 Lowell Courier-Citizen Andy O'Connor- 8/2/1910 Lynn Daily Item Art Gardiner- 4/19/1925 Columbia (SC) Sunday Record Asa Stratton- 1875 Grafton team photo Barney White- 4/22/1948 The Paris (TX) News Bert Whaling- RMY Auction Bill H. Crouch- 7/17/1916 Wilmington News Journal Bill K. Rodgers- 7/16/1915 The Cincinnati Post Bill S. Rodgers- 4/11/1945 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Bill Abernathie- 4/14/1952 The Indianapolis Star Bill Bartley- 1906 Philadelphia A's team photo Bill Cooney- 7/15/1911 Lowell Courier-Citizen Bill Cramer- 7/7/1914 The Fort Wayne Journal Gazette Bill Dam- 4/22/1910 Lynn Daily Item Bill Hanlon- 4/5/1903 Chicago Tribune Bill Herring- Findagrave page Bill Keen- 1912 Pittsburgh Pirates team photo Bill Lasley- 1925 St. Louis Browns team photo (Spring Training) Bill Leinhauser- Ancestry.com profile Bill McCorry- 5/16/1910 Lynn Daily Item Bill Mellor- 1896 Brown University team photo Bill Mizeur- 1924 Terre Haute team photo Bill Stuart- 1894 Penn State team photo Bill Tozer- 3/19/1908 The Cincinnati Times Star Bill Warren- 1914 Indianapolis Hoosiers team photo Bill Yohe- 1912 Tacoma team photo Bill Zimmerman- 5/6/1911 The Atlanta Constitution Billy Kelsey- 1908 OKC team photo Billy Kinloch- 8/3/1895 The Rocky Mountain News Billy Smith- 11/16/1908 New Orleans Times-Democrat Blaine Thomas- 3/5/1912 The Sacramento Bee Bob Edmondson- 5/23/1909 The Minneapolis Journal Bob Geary- 3/16/1926 The San Francisco Examiner Bob Kinsella- 2/10/1921 The Indianapolis News Bob Larmore- 4/20/1918 St. Louis Globe-Democrat Bruce Hitt- 2/4/1940 Monroe (LA) Morning World Charlie Fitzberger- 6/28/1930 The Morning Call Charlie Hartman- 6/23/1907 The Sunday Oregonian Colonel Snover- 4/10/1926 Springfield Morning Union George Mundinger- Ancestry.com profile George Tomer- 4/26/1922 Springfield Morning Union Harry Armbruster- 1906 Philadelphia A's team photo Henry Yaik- 1/20/1889 Detroit Free Press Jeff Pfeffer- RMY Auctions Joe Schepner- RMY Auctions Johnny Werts- RMY Auctions Larry Cheney- RMY Auctions Milt Whitehead- 1891 Portland (OR) team photo Red Waller- 4/8/1912 Lynn Daily Item Tony von Fricken- 1897 St. Paul Saints team photo Uke Clanton- 1924 Terre Haute team photo Walter Johnson- RMY Auctions |
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Maybe I'm overlooking the obvious, but is there a link to download Sir Lurksalot's photo pack of Negro League players? Usually, there's a link near the first post, as you did. But I don't find one. Can you help me?
By the way, I am glad to see that you posted the source for each photo in your photo pack. It also shows how much time and effort you put into researching and creating the photo packs. Thanks so much. |
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Sir Lurkalot link
Maybe I'm overlooking the obvious, but is there a link to download Sir Lurksalot's photo pack of Negro League players? Usually, there's a link near the first post, as you did. But I don't find one. Can you help me?
By the way, I am glad to see that you posted the source for each photo in your photo pack. It also shows how much time and effort you put into researching and creating the photo packs. Thanks so much. |
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What about the link in the second post?
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I can't seem to find Carl Thompson, the brother of Homer Thompson who both played for the 1912 New York Highlanders. Maybe its under another 1st name?
Found him under Tommy C. Thompson Last edited by Dto7; 05-22-2025 at 08:40 PM. |
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I'll have him updated to his current name status on Baseball-Reference for my next update. It's been some effort keeping up with their many changes, some I've accepted and some I haven't. I've been particularly irked by their removal of many players' traditional nicknames.
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Thanks, and I agree that they should have left the nicknames alone. |
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Update #15 For Cinemaodyssey's Facepack
The link in my initial post in this thread has been updated to include the 16th edition of my Facepack. This edition includes all player debuts from the 2025 season, several missing players, numerous newspaper finds and upgrades to a lot of photos. I've been focused heavily on more front-facing photos of players to better represent their features.
Al Montreuil- Merkle/Brace photo Ambrose McGann- 12/19/1949 Roanoke World News Andy Rush- 1925 Brooklyn team photo Arnold Umbach- Merkle/Brace photo Bob Cooney- Brace (Ebay) Buddy Hancken- Brace (Ebay) Cal Emery- Merkle/Brace photo Carl Sawyer- RMY auctions Charlie Cuellar- Brace (Ebay) Charlie Eakle- 12/7/1918 Baltimore Sun Charlie Lindstrom- Brace (Ebay) Charlie Moran- ID correction Charlie Shields- 8/24/1903 The Oregon Daily Journal Clint Rogge- 8/21/1915 Newark Star-Ledger Dale Polley- 8/8/1996 In-game screen grab Dan McFarlan- 8/12/1903 The Oregon Daily Journal Danny Friend- 1899 Milwaukee team photo Danny Silva- 5/7/1922 Springfield Morning Union Dave Tyriver- Brace (Ebay) Dean Sturgis- 1915 Bucknell team photo Dennis Musgraves- Merkle/Brace photo Desmond Beatty- 4/8/1917 Springfield Morning Union Dick R. Harley- 6/23/1906 The Atlanta Journal Dick Adkins- 7/26/1941 Newport News Daily Press Dick Cotter- 5/31/1912 Chicago Tribune Dixie Parker- 2/12/1930 Davenport Daily Times Doc Potts- 1890s Bristol team photo (Grundy Archives) Don Arlich- ID correction Duke Sedgwick- 7/20/1928 Portland Evening Express Dutch Schesler- 3/4/1931 The Philadelphia Inquirer Earl Allen- 9/10/1937 Norfolk Ledger-Star Earl Cook- 8/31/1941 Detroit Evening Times Earl Mattingly- 4/16/1931 McAlester News-Capital Ed Fisher- 1905 Detroit College of Medicine Baseball Team Ed Forsyth- 2/18/1954 The Jersey Journal Ed Hendricks- 8/11/1910 The La Crosse Tribune Ed Kusel- 5/12/1907 Cleveland Plain Dealer Ed Lyons- 3/19/1947 Washington Times Herald Ed Wingo- 8/12/1920 The Montreal Star Eddie Edmonson- 9/11/1913 The Cleveland Press Eddie Palmer- 2/3/1929 The Rocky Mountain News Eduardo Villacis- 5/1/04 In-game screen grab Emil Huhn- 6/12/1915 Newark Star-Ledger Enos Kirkpatrick- ID correction; 1915 Baltimore Terrapins photo Ernie Rudolph- 6/24/1945 Brooklyn Eagle Ernie Wolf- 4/7/1911 Newark Star-Ledger Erv Kantlehner- 7/9/1916 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Everett Fagan- Brace (Ebay) Frank McCue- 4/13/1924 The Minneapolis Journal Frank Murphy- 7/7/1910 Los Angeles Herald Frank Quinlan- 5/8/1895 The Lewiston Daily Sun *Missing Player Frank Walker- 3/25/1918 Detroit Free Press Fred Bratschi- 3/25/1926 The Boston Globe Gary Haught- 7/29/1997 In-game screengrab Gene Madden- 3/19/1916 The Pittsburgh Post Gene McAuliffe- 10/31/1904 Lynn Daily Item George W. Scott- 4/26/1924 The Austin American George Abrams- 3/7/1923 The Cincinnati Post George Bignell- 2/28/1937 The Bay City Times George Bullard- 7/17/1954 The Durham Sun George Curry- 8/13/1911 The St. Louis Star & Times George Hogan- 4/12/1914 The Kansas City Post George Lowe- 7/12/1919 Springfield (MA) Republican Greg Garrett- Merkle/Brace photo Greg Washburn- Merkle/Brace photo Hal Kurtz- Brace (Ebay) photo Hal McClure- 1886 New York Clipper Harvey Branch- Brace (Ebay) photo Harvey Russell- 1915 Baltimore Terrapins team photo Heinie Beckendorf- 7/17/1910 The Washington Herald Henry Jones- 1885 Pittsburgh team photo Jack Fox- 6/19/1908 Cleveland Plain Dealer Jack Hickey- 4/17/1904 Cleveland Plain Dealer Jake Caulfield- Brace (Ebay) photo James McMullin- 9/27/1886 The San Francisco Examiner *Missing Player Jerry Standaert- 1925 Brooklyn Dodgers team photo Jim R. Campbell- Merkle/Brace photo Jim R. Poole- RMY Auctions Jim Buchanan- ID correction John H. Murphy- 7/6/1930 The Trenton Times *Missing Player John W. Coleman- 1890s Bristol team photo (Grundy archives) John Gallagher- 5/30/1915 The Pittsburgh Press John Glenn- Brace (Ebay) photo John Shetzline- 7/6/1930 The Trenton Times *Missing Player Jorge Rubio- Merkle/Brace photo Larry Loughlin- Merkle/Brace photo Lou Bauer- 5/4/1915 The Jersey Journal Marshall Quinton- 12/7/1930 The Trenton Times *Missing Player Max Wilson- Brace (Ebay) photo Mickey Harrington- Merkle/Brace photo Mike Flynn- 1/15/1913 Lowell Courier-Citizen *Missing Player Mike Sullivan- 1892 New York Giants team photo Molly Moore- 4/27/1878 National Police Gazette *Missing Player Nelson Greene- 1925 Brooklyn Dodgers team photo Oliver Hill- Brace (Ebay) photo Ralph Capron- RMY Auctions Red Kleinow- 1908 New York Highlanders team photo Rip Jordan- 6/14/1912 Chicago Tribune Rudy Baerwald- 1908 New York Highlanders team photo Sam Rice- RMY Auctions Sam Weaver- 11/25/1882 New York Clipper Shag Shaughnessy- 6/19/1908 Cleveland Plain Dealer Snipe Conley- ID correction; 1915 Baltimore Terrapins team photo Syd Smith- RMY auctions Tuffy Smith- RMY auctions Vin Campbell- 6/12/1915 Newark Star-Ledger William Ritter- Columbus Public Library *Missing Player While doing research, I have moved Frank Freund to MISSING PLAYER status as the current image does not depict him. Last edited by cinemaodyssey; 07-15-2025 at 04:29 PM. |
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Latest 16th facepack update
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Sorry to be pedantic but is it possible you can provide further information in respect of those players you list as ID correction. Does this mean that the image was previously misnamed as a different player, or alternatively that you have made a name change for the same player to conform with new baseball reference current naming practices, or a correction for a different reason. Is it possible for you to post the team photo you used in respect of the Rudy Baerwald image. Thank you for your substantive contributions. Last edited by UKBaseballfan; 07-21-2025 at 03:16 AM. |
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As to the notations for "ID Correction" it stems from research done that has proven the player previously depicted under that name in previous Photopack editions was not the correct person. I have corrected them for the current edition to accurately depict the proper players in question. For example: the 1915 Baltimore Terrapins team photo came without identifications and my first attempt to decipher who was who resulted in some errors. Also, I just noticed George Hogreiver is in there twice. Please delete the one labeled "George Hogriever" since his name misspelling is what caused the issue. I have decided to use his image from the 1895 Cincinnati Reds team photo. Last edited by cinemaodyssey; 07-21-2025 at 03:19 AM. |
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The Jack Hickey photo isn't the one from the 4/17/1904 Cleveland Plain Dealer.
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Bob Johnson
I am looking for a photo of Bob Johnson, a Negro Leagues player who played only one season (1944) with the Kansas City Monarchs. Can you help me?
(There are four other Bob Johnsons in the OOTP photos folder, but the one I'm seeking is not among them.) |
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Update #16 For Cinemaodyssey's Facepack
The link in my initial post in this thread has been updated to include the 17th edition of my Facepack. This edition includes all player debuts from the 2025 season, several missing players, numerous newspaper finds and upgrades to a lot of photos. I've been focused heavily on more front-facing photos of players to better represent their features.
Alex Skinner- 1/18/1879 National Police Gazette *Missing Player Bill Bowman- 1890 Sacramento team photo Bill Kienzle- 1885 Trenton team photo Charlie Ziegler- 3/22/1900 Philadelphia Record George Creamer- 1882 Worcester team photo George Hogan- 7/20/1913 The Kansas City Post George O'Brien- 11/10/1912 The Cleveland Leader George Stutz- 3/19/1925 The Oregon Daily Journal George Ziegler- 1890 Sacramento team photo Gerry Shea- 3/11/1910 The St. Louis Star and Times Gil Paulsen- Cornell College HOF photo Goat Cochran- RMY Auctions Hack Schumann- 12/1/1910 Hartford Courant Hal Reilly- 8/11/1918 Chicago Tribune Hal Schacker- 5/11/1944 Brunswick Times Record Hank Hulvey- 6/26/1925 The Salt Lake Tribune Happy Iott- 5/7/1905 The Philadelphia Inquirer Hardin Barry- 3/5/1912 Los Angeles Morning Tribune Harry Baldwin- 3/2/1924 New York Daily News Harry Gleason- 1904 St. Louis Browns team photo Harry Hardy- 4/22/1910 Hartford Courant Harry Hinchman- 8/15/1907 Cleveland Plain Dealer Harry O'Neill- 6/3/1925 Deseret News Harry Pearce- 3/30/1918 Evening Public Ledger Harry Trekell- Montana Historical Society Harvey Grubb- 8/10/1915 The Waco News-Tribune Harvey Shank- 3/17/1970 Redwood City Tribune Henry Benn- 2/25/1914 Cleveland Plain Dealer Herb M. Thomas- 9/2/1924 The Boston Globe Herb Cobb- 4/15/1929 St. Louis Globe-Democrat Herbert Hill- 5/3/1916 The South Bend Tribune Hod Kibbie- 3/22/1926 The Boston Globe Homer Davidson- 5/25/1908 The Cleveland Plain Dealer Howard McGraner- 4/29/1921 The Grand Rapids Press Howard Murphy- 5/1/1907 The Rocky Mountain News Howie McFarland- 4/15/1937 The Chattanooga News Hunter Hill- 8/9/1905 The Washington Times Irv Porter- 4/2/1919 Lynn Daily Item Jack Barnett- 3/22/1909 The Spokesman-Review Jack Himes- 6/11/1907 The Indianapolis News Jack Kading- 3/31/1911 The Duluth News Tribune Jack Lelivelt- 12/24/1910 Washington Times Herald Jack Merson- 4/17/1952 Pittsburgh Sun-Telegraph Jack Reis- 3/31/1909 The State (Columbia, SC) Jackie Gallagher- 7/18/1982 Providence Journal Jake G. Miller- 3/18/1923 Birmingham Post-Herald Jake J. Smith- 2/8/1915 Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Jake Volz- 8/17/1908 The Cincinnati Post Jay Parker- 3/30/1905 The Sioux City Journal Jerry Byrne- 4/5/1930 Chicago Tribune Jim Ball- 3/26/1908 The Boston Globe Jim Eschen- 6/22/1916 The Birmingham News Jim Moroney- 3/29/1910 The Baltimore Sun Joe Bernard- 6/19/1910 St. Louis Star and Times *Missing Player Joe Giannini- 5/5/1914 San Francisco Bulletin Joe Gormley- ID correction; 1906 Lansford team photo Joe Jaeger- 5/17/1925 Minneapolis Star Tribune Mike Gaule- 9/11/1904 The Baltimore Sun Ralph Young- RMY Auctions Tom Gillen- 9/9/1886 Detroit Free Press *Missing Player Verne Blackbourn- Familysearch.org *Missing Player Along with pictorial improvements, SABR has also corrected the identifications of the following players: Marcy McDonnell Robert Ward Thomas Crane William Crane To address the burgeoning AI usage, I've decided to make its usage sparing. There are times when either enhancement or colorization are useful and appropriate and they will be included as such. I've played around with Gemini and other AI tools and found that it alters player features too much for my comfort. As always, if you have any questions or comments regarding the Facepack please reach out. |
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"To address the burgeoning AI usage, I've decided to make its usage sparing. There are times when either enhancement or colorization are useful and appropriate and they will be included as such. I've played around with Gemini and other AI tools and found that it alters player features too much for my comfort."
I agree that there is a tendency for AI to change player's features and it would be prudent to delay AI improvements into the facepack until AI's development matures as it surely will. Would it be possible to clarify what you mean by correcting identifications, for example if Marcy McDonnell is the player previously referred to as McDoolan that would be helpful to specify the correcting by stating from whom to whom rather than leave us to guess. Alternatively if a player was previously unknown that would also be helpful. Recommending us to refer to the player info facility on Baseball Reference may also be useful. Last edited by UKBaseballfan; 01-11-2026 at 11:04 PM. |
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Homer Davidson 1908
Here is an example of the potential direction software, palette in this case, can take us.
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