Ties - Page 4

Syd Thrift · 04-19-2022, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tejdog1

Ties and lame and stupid

are awesome

MathBandit · 04-19-2022, 03:02 PM

I love ties, and don't understand the reluctance to them. There's just something about a nice flashy tie that pairs with the right dress shirt (and possibly jacket) to really make the whole outfit pop.

darkcloud4579 · 04-19-2022, 03:57 PM

Glad we have the option to use them, even if we never do.

Cryomaniac · 04-20-2022, 11:48 AM

One question I have on this, from a stats perspective, if a pitcher pitches a the whole game in a 0-0 tie, does he get a CG and a Shutout? Just a CG? Neither?

And, of course, do No Hitters and Perfect Games count in a 0-0 tie?

EnderCN · 04-20-2022, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by r0nster

I prefer the game be played as it was meant to be played no time limits extra innings and lots of Double Headers and American League DH and Nationals Pitchers hit. To me in my opinion ties are a whimp clause for lazy players

I assume you also want no walls, no gloves, the hitter gets to direct the pitcher where to throw etc. All these changes that happened that people seem fine with when they are hand picking what is the proper way to play the game.

Personally I'm cool with a tie after 9. If neither team was able to win after 9 nobody really deserves a win. You had a whole game to win already. Anything is better than the endless extra innings though. That has always been the worst way to handle things. Most sports end up with extra periods being exciting, baseballs is just boring. It is waiting for one team to run out of pitchers. The runner on 2nd makes it a little better at least.

silvam14 · 04-20-2022, 12:27 PM

The level of excitement I have for the new ties feature personally, is well, akin to when there is a tie in any game

kq76 · 04-20-2022, 12:30 PM

Wow. If you add up all the tie votes, they're actually beating the never vote! I didn't think that would be the case. That's cool to see.

joefromchicago · 04-20-2022, 01:00 PM

The option that we don't have is the way that MLB historically treated ties - i.e. tied games that were called (usually because of darkness) would go into the books as ties. No limit on innings, just a limit imposed by the rotation of the earth. I'm running a league right now that is in 1901 and I have a 15-inning limit on games. I think that's a reasonable approximation of the MLB rule at the time. I've been getting about 3-5 ties in a single season for 16 teams.

Syd Thrift · 04-20-2022, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by silvam14

The level of excitement I have for the new ties feature personally, is well, akin to when there is a tie in any game

I mean, I won't use the new rules either, as annoyed as I get when the first %*@&(#(&%#( game of a #@(%&# doubleheader goes 17 innings... except for spring training, where MLB absolutely allows ties. Kissing your sister is completely legal in the month of March in the state of Florida.

daves · 04-23-2022, 10:54 AM

Where is the Tie option?

Nevermind found it.

daves · 04-23-2022, 11:30 AM

In a 162 game schedule with after 10 innings a tie is recorded, no team had over 7 ties. Not bad.

84Cubs · 04-23-2022, 02:35 PM

Instead of ties, do a 10th inning Homerun derby between 2 players. It would be like a shootout in Hockey.

daves · 04-23-2022, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 84Cubs

Instead of ties, do a 10th inning Homerun derby between 2 players. It would be like a shootout in Hockey.

blah

Anteater · 04-23-2022, 04:58 PM

Not a big fan of modern baseball rules but I don't even like the DH. No special reason just grew up as a NL fan for the DH and happy memories growing up in previous decades so creating something in the past appeals to me.

Pelican · 04-23-2022, 09:32 PM

The “after midnight” option got me thinking. Years past, many cities had ordinances prohibiting an inning starting after a certain time. In Philly it was 12:45 am or something weird like that. Not sure if games were declared ties, or to be resumed at a later date. Either way, the clock solution avoids wearing down the bullpens, and could allow the tied game to resume on an off day, which is better, and can be anticipated. Why not that? Anything is better than the “ghost runners”.

5-4-3 · 04-24-2022, 02:50 AM

Ties are ahistorical. Not using them. But to each his own.

PocketsAintFull · 04-25-2022, 12:48 PM

I'm curious what happens if Modified extra innings are set to Spring + Regular Season, and Ties to say, 'after 15' - would the ties still occur in the playoffs?

darkcloud4579 · 11-20-2022, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PocketsAintFull

I'm curious what happens if Modified extra innings are set to Spring + Regular Season, and Ties to say, 'after 15' - would the ties still occur in the playoffs?

No of course not.

Brad K · 11-20-2022, 11:41 PM

I support games being ties after nine innings. And make it retroactive so Harvey Haddix gets his no hitter back.

Brad K · 11-20-2022, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by darkcloud4579

No of course not.

Why not? All the arguments against no extra innings in regular season applies to playoff games too.

Besides, it gives teams a reason to play an extra game and charge admission again. Manfred would love it.

View Poll Results: How do you feel about ties?
Never!	59	51.30%
After 9 innings	9	7.83%
After 10 innings	3	2.61%
After 11 innings	6	5.22%
After 12 innings	31	26.96%
After 13 innings	0	0%
After 14 innings	0	0%
After 15 innings	2	1.74%
After 16 innings	0	0%
After 17 innings	0	0%
After 18 innings	1	0.87%
After Midnight	4	3.48%
Voters: 115. You may not vote on this poll

04-20-2022, 11:48 AM	#64
Cryomaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hucknall, Notts, UK Posts: 4,903	One question I have on this, from a stats perspective, if a pitcher pitches a the whole game in a 0-0 tie, does he get a CG and a Shutout? Just a CG? Neither? And, of course, do No Hitters and Perfect Games count in a 0-0 tie? __________________

04-20-2022, 12:27 PM	#66
silvam14 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Dedham, MA Posts: 9,891	The level of excitement I have for the new ties feature personally, is well, akin to when there is a tie in any game __________________ Senior "Nancy Boy" of the OOTP Boards _______________________________________________

04-20-2022, 12:30 PM	#67
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04-20-2022, 01:00 PM	#68
joefromchicago Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,691	The option that we don't have is the way that MLB historically treated ties - i.e. tied games that were called (usually because of darkness) would go into the books as ties. No limit on innings, just a limit imposed by the rotation of the earth. I'm running a league right now that is in 1901 and I have a 15-inning limit on games. I think that's a reasonable approximation of the MLB rule at the time. I've been getting about 3-5 ties in a single season for 16 teams. __________________ American-Ethnic (and Canadian) Namesets Historical Minor League Schedules 1870s City/Team Nickname Randomizers "It's Usually Sunny in Philadelphia" weather mod Negro League Schedules

04-19-2022, 03:02 PM	#62
MathBandit All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 1,445	I love ties, and don't understand the reluctance to them. There's just something about a nice flashy tie that pairs with the right dress shirt (and possibly jacket) to really make the whole outfit pop.

04-19-2022, 03:57 PM	#63
darkcloud4579 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,658	Glad we have the option to use them, even if we never do.

04-23-2022, 10:54 AM	#70
daves Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,830	Where is the Tie option? Nevermind found it. __________________ Last edited by daves; 04-23-2022 at 10:59 AM.

04-23-2022, 11:30 AM	#71
daves Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,830	In a 162 game schedule with after 10 innings a tie is recorded, no team had over 7 ties. Not bad. __________________

04-23-2022, 02:35 PM	#72
84Cubs Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2020 Posts: 242	Instead of ties, do a 10th inning Homerun derby between 2 players. It would be like a shootout in Hockey.

04-23-2022, 04:58 PM	#74
Anteater Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2022 Location: Florida Posts: 132	Not a big fan of modern baseball rules but I don't even like the DH. No special reason just grew up as a NL fan for the DH and happy memories growing up in previous decades so creating something in the past appeals to me.

04-23-2022, 09:32 PM	#75
Pelican Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2021 Location: Wilmington, Delaware Posts: 2,882	The “after midnight” option got me thinking. Years past, many cities had ordinances prohibiting an inning starting after a certain time. In Philly it was 12:45 am or something weird like that. Not sure if games were declared ties, or to be resumed at a later date. Either way, the clock solution avoids wearing down the bullpens, and could allow the tied game to resume on an off day, which is better, and can be anticipated. Why not that? Anything is better than the “ghost runners”.

04-24-2022, 02:50 AM	#76
5-4-3 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 143	Ties are ahistorical. Not using them. But to each his own.

04-25-2022, 12:48 PM	#77
PocketsAintFull All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 1,868	I'm curious what happens if Modified extra innings are set to Spring + Regular Season, and Ties to say, 'after 15' - would the ties still occur in the playoffs? __________________ ---------------- Bob Uecker, RIP

11-20-2022, 11:41 PM	#79
Brad K Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2016 Location: St Petersburg Florida USA Posts: 6,608 Infractions: 0/2 (3)	I support games being ties after nine innings. And make it retroactive so Harvey Haddix gets his no hitter back. __________________ . Pirates Play Moneyball 1951-2008 Ratings and League Totals Modifiers Settings and Auto-calc