New Non-HW Boxers Rated - Page 41

CONN CHRIS · 02-18-2005, 07:44 AM

JOSE CARDENAS FW (1947-1950)

Rocco Del Sesto · 02-18-2005, 08:04 PM

Michel Vinot - France
Middleweight 1958-62 Rating 5
Light Heavyweight 1962-65 Rating 2

37 wins / 8 losses / 3 draws / 22 KO

Birthplace: Velminfroy, France

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Compiled a 36-4-2 record up through May 1964 when he fought and defeated Paul Roux for the French Light Heavyweight Title in a 12 round decision. Of course many of those early wins were against the local club fighters.He did fight Roux one time earlier for the French LHW Title, in May 1962. From the start of his career up till that first LHW title fight with Roux, Vinot fought mainly middleweights and was most likely thus considered a middleweight. During that time he was 28-3-1,16KO. Most of that was against foregetable opponents. He lost to Andre Drille(50-8-8), Richard Bouchez(26-16-2), and Jean Ruellet(55-69-19). He did beat Marcel Tirel(31-16-5).Those were the only noteworthy record opponents.

Vinot then moved up to LHW to fight Roux in May 1962. In that fight they fought to a 15 round draw. He defeated Yvan Prebeg knocking him out in the 1st round a few months after that 15 round bout with Roux. In October 1963 Vinot lost by 9th round KO to Pekka Kokkonen. That loss to Kokkonen accured in Helsinki, Finland, the first time Vinot fought outside France.

After he won the French LHW Title in May 1964, Vinot then fought a 10 round draw with Rudolf Nehring. Then over the next 7 month, Vinot lost 4 straight fights, the first three decision losses to Guy Mastil, Gert Van Heerden(46-6-0), fought in South Africa, and then he lost his French LHW Title back to Paul Roux in March 1965 in a 12 round decision. On May 1st, 1965, Yvan Prebeg KO'd Vinot in the 6th round in Cologne, Germany to end Vinot's career. He finished his career fighting as a Light Heavy with a 9-5-2,6KO.

The two files attached, one for MW, one for LHW

jeffbakker · 02-20-2005, 02:37 PM

Ernie Petrone 1941-1947 32(8)-44-7

This is my first attempt at rating a fighter.
Let me know what you think.
jb

LeeSkye · 02-21-2005, 04:51 PM

jeffbakker

Good start....take a look at page 44 of the TBCB manual and it shows the 3 point punch totals you should have for each point of HP.

For HP-3 you should have from 6-9 in the 3 point punch column. Example: if you think he has a great hook then your 2 pt punch column could be 14.00
and the 3 point column 6.00.

Once you change this run some test bouts to see how it changes your fighters abilities and tweak where necessary. Take alook at some fighters you know that are already rated and note how their punches are distributed to get a feel for it.

This is the one area I always seem to forget about whern doing a fighter.

jeffbakker · 02-21-2005, 06:27 PM

LeeSkye ---

I did forget about that.
Thanks for the feedback and the encouragement.
jb

CONN CHRIS · 02-22-2005, 07:22 AM

Note - Could someone post the file for Young Nationalista, I deleated mine by accident and can't seem to locate it in the threads. Thanks

HUERTA EVANS BW (1927-1936)

Hometown - Los Angeles, California, USA

23(1)-21-6

Evans was a highly touted amature out of the Los Angeles Athletic Club. Although he had some nice wins, his career didn't rank much higher than journeyman status. Evans fought Chalky Wright five times, winning one and fighting to one draw. He scored decision victories over Joe Murphy, Benny Gallup, Joe Calder and Young Nationalista and was beaten by Fidel LaBarba, Frankie Klick, Cecil Payne and Young Tommy. Evans was stopped twice in 50 pro bouts, both at the hands of Chalky Wright.

CONN CHRIS · 02-22-2005, 07:23 AM

HUERTA EVANS BW (1927-1936)

David Myers · 02-22-2005, 08:48 AM

Real name: Frederico Buenaflor
Birthplace: Iloilo, Philippines
Born 1905. Fought from 1922 to 1932.
Trainer: Charley Yost
Manager: Mike (Dutch) Schwemier
Record: 54-44-26 (27)

LeeSkye · 02-22-2005, 09:57 AM

Roland Todd MW

jofre · 02-22-2005, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David Myers

Philadelphia welterweight. Born 1937. Fought from 1959 to 1964. Record: 16-2-0 (10).

There must be a story here. Turner beat Al Styles, Luis Federico Thompson, Percy Manning, and Isaac Logart. Then he lost back-to-back matches to Jose Stable and Stanley Hayward, and apparently retired. Neither loss was a knockout. Was he hurt in the Hayward bout? Did he simply decide that he wasn't going to the top, and so decided to hang them up?

At all events, I have rated Turner 8.

Turner is the uncle of middleweight Frank (The Animal) Fletcher and lightweight Anthony (Two Guns) Fletcher.

Classy 1960's welter faced all of the other best young talent at 147. Career highlights included upset of Federico Thompson & 3-round KO of Percy Manning.

Promising run was cut short by a detached retina suffered in bout vs. Kitten Hayward

hagler99 · 02-23-2005, 09:00 AM

Two current Lightheavies Kai Kurzawa 18[12]-0-0 & Prince Badi Ajamu 22[12]-2-1

CONN CHRIS · 02-23-2005, 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagler99

Two current Lightheavies Kai Kurzawa 18[12]-0-0 & Prince Badi Ajamu 22[12]-2-1

Thanks Hagler, I re-sized your photos for the game.

hagler99 · 02-23-2005, 06:38 PM

Thank you Chris, MH turned me on to a resizing site but i`m not much on the computer, can just about turn it on. Truth told i always wait for you to resize them.thanx again.

mh2365 · 02-23-2005, 08:49 PM

It's really pretty easy and truth be told I've yet to use a single picture you've posted because if I have to re-size them I'd rather find them myself. It's asking others to do your work for you.

CONN CHRIS · 02-23-2005, 09:26 PM

It is pretty easy to learn Hagler but don't sweat it. If you want to go to the trouble of rating a new fighter and finding a photo, I am more than happy to re-size them.

LeeSkye has fixed a number of my ugly photos, so I guess that I'm with you in the leach corner

Brooks TVB · 02-23-2005, 09:32 PM

I use Irfanview to resize and edit all my pictures.

mh2365 · 02-24-2005, 02:18 AM

Irfan is the link I gave you Hagler, very easy to use.

hagler99 · 02-24-2005, 05:29 AM

Current Lightheavy 20[15]-1-0. i`ll bet there plenty guys in our corner Chris,thanx again.

CONN CHRIS · 02-24-2005, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hagler99

Current Lightheavy 20[15]-1-0. i`ll bet there plenty guys in our corner Chris,thanx again.

Resized

CONN CHRIS · 02-25-2005, 07:30 PM

CHIEF PARIS WW 1933-1939

Hometown - Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, USA

16(4)-13-7

Paris was a tough journeyman that didn't shy away from bouts with good fighters. He scored decision wins over Harry Dublinsky, Ritchie Mack, Kid Azteca and two over Midget Mexico. He also lost twice to Azteca, both by decision. His only stoppage losses came against Ceferino Garcia and Al Hostak.

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LeeSkye All Star Starter Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Igloo Posts: 1,279	jeffbakker Good start....take a look at page 44 of the TBCB manual and it shows the 3 point punch totals you should have for each point of HP. For HP-3 you should have from 6-9 in the 3 point punch column. Example: if you think he has a great hook then your 2 pt punch column could be 14.00 and the 3 point column 6.00. Once you change this run some test bouts to see how it changes your fighters abilities and tweak where necessary. Take alook at some fighters you know that are already rated and note how their punches are distributed to get a feel for it. This is the one area I always seem to forget about whern doing a fighter. __________________ What If Championship Boxing Last edited by LeeSkye; 02-21-2005 at 04:53 PM.

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02-23-2005, 09:26 PM	#815
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,029	It is pretty easy to learn Hagler but don't sweat it. If you want to go to the trouble of rating a new fighter and finding a photo, I am more than happy to re-size them. LeeSkye has fixed a number of my ugly photos, so I guess that I'm with you in the leach corner __________________ Check Out My Cards!

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hagler99 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: in the city of ESPN Posts: 103	Thank you Chris, MH turned me on to a resizing site but i`m not much on the computer, can just about turn it on. Truth told i always wait for you to resize them.thanx again.

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mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	It's really pretty easy and truth be told I've yet to use a single picture you've posted because if I have to re-size them I'd rather find them myself. It's asking others to do your work for you.

02-24-2005, 02:18 AM	#817
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Irfan is the link I gave you Hagler, very easy to use.